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I am installing MSDE 2000 on client machines. Where can I dowload the client connectivity tools for MSDE so that users can see and work with thier databases? Do I have to download sql sp4 for that? Can someone please send me the link for downloading the client tools? Thanks --
Microsoft does not provide any 'client tools' for MSDE.
Users must have an application, or programming environment such as Visual Studio -or even Access. There are some third party management tools on the internet -but I don't recall that any of them where tools for "users can see and work with thier databases", if by that you mean execute queries, etc. -- Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. Westwood Consulting, Inc Most good judgment comes from experience. Most experience comes from bad judgment. - Anonymous [quoted text, click to view] "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:520FF8F8-271E-4AE3-84B0-7433C04B9E5A@microsoft.com... > Hi, > > I am installing MSDE 2000 on client machines. Where can I dowload the > client > connectivity tools for MSDE so that users can see and work with thier > databases? > > Do I have to download sql sp4 for that? Can someone please send me the > link > for downloading the client tools? > > Thanks > > -- > pmud
Hi Arnie,
By users seeing the databases , I mean like in Enterpsir Manager, users can see all the databases by right clicking and can see teh schema of the tables. Also, I have SQL SErver 2000 CD with valid license. So do I think I can copy the client tools from there and put it on all machines Ineed MSDE on? Which files do i need to copy for taking the client tools only? Thanks -- pmud [quoted text, click to view] "Arnie Rowland" wrote:
> Microsoft does not provide any 'client tools' for MSDE. > > Users must have an application, or programming environment such as Visual > Studio -or even Access. > > There are some third party management tools on the internet -but I don't > recall that any of them where tools for "users can see and work with thier > databases", if by that you mean execute queries, etc. > > -- > Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. > Westwood Consulting, Inc > > Most good judgment comes from experience. > Most experience comes from bad judgment. > - Anonymous > > > "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:520FF8F8-271E-4AE3-84B0-7433C04B9E5A@microsoft.com... > > Hi, > > > > I am installing MSDE 2000 on client machines. Where can I dowload the > > client > > connectivity tools for MSDE so that users can see and work with thier > > databases? > > > > Do I have to download sql sp4 for that? Can someone please send me the > > link > > for downloading the client tools? > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > pmud > >
The client tools you have on your "SQL SErver 2000 CD" are NOT be licensed
as client tools for MSDE. Do all the of computers that you contemplate needing 'client tools' currently have a SQL Server Client Access License (CAL)? I would suggest that you verify with Microsoft licensing before you put your company/agency at risk. Licensing -VL Contact (800) 426-9400 -- Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. Westwood Consulting, Inc Most good judgment comes from experience. Most experience comes from bad judgment. - Anonymous [quoted text, click to view] "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:23129FFE-B1D1-4C97-8E9B-6FE5F9913B7D@microsoft.com... > Hi Arnie, > > By users seeing the databases , I mean like in Enterpsir Manager, users > can > see all the databases by right clicking and can see teh schema of the > tables. > > Also, I have SQL SErver 2000 CD with valid license. So do I think I can > copy > the client tools from there and put it on all machines Ineed MSDE on? > > Which files do i need to copy for taking the client tools only? > > Thanks > -- > pmud > > > "Arnie Rowland" wrote: > >> Microsoft does not provide any 'client tools' for MSDE. >> >> Users must have an application, or programming environment such as Visual >> Studio -or even Access. >> >> There are some third party management tools on the internet -but I don't >> recall that any of them where tools for "users can see and work with >> thier >> databases", if by that you mean execute queries, etc. >> >> -- >> Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. >> Westwood Consulting, Inc >> >> Most good judgment comes from experience. >> Most experience comes from bad judgment. >> - Anonymous >> >> >> "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:520FF8F8-271E-4AE3-84B0-7433C04B9E5A@microsoft.com... >> > Hi, >> > >> > I am installing MSDE 2000 on client machines. Where can I dowload the >> > client >> > connectivity tools for MSDE so that users can see and work with thier >> > databases? >> > >> > Do I have to download sql sp4 for that? Can someone please send me the >> > link >> > for downloading the client tools? >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > -- >> > pmud >> >> >>
Hi Arni e,
Thanks for your response. I think if we have Process license for sql server 2000, we should be able to install sql server 2000 teself on any no. of mahcines...without worrying about installing sql msde 2000.... What do you think? Thanks -- pmud [quoted text, click to view] "Arnie Rowland" wrote:
> The client tools you have on your "SQL SErver 2000 CD" are NOT be licensed > as client tools for MSDE. > > Do all the of computers that you contemplate needing 'client tools' > currently have a SQL Server Client Access License (CAL)? > > I would suggest that you verify with Microsoft licensing before you put your > company/agency at risk. > > Licensing -VL Contact > (800) 426-9400 > > -- > Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. > Westwood Consulting, Inc > > Most good judgment comes from experience. > Most experience comes from bad judgment. > - Anonymous > > > "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:23129FFE-B1D1-4C97-8E9B-6FE5F9913B7D@microsoft.com... > > Hi Arnie, > > > > By users seeing the databases , I mean like in Enterpsir Manager, users > > can > > see all the databases by right clicking and can see teh schema of the > > tables. > > > > Also, I have SQL SErver 2000 CD with valid license. So do I think I can > > copy > > the client tools from there and put it on all machines Ineed MSDE on? > > > > Which files do i need to copy for taking the client tools only? > > > > Thanks > > -- > > pmud > > > > > > "Arnie Rowland" wrote: > > > >> Microsoft does not provide any 'client tools' for MSDE. > >> > >> Users must have an application, or programming environment such as Visual > >> Studio -or even Access. > >> > >> There are some third party management tools on the internet -but I don't > >> recall that any of them where tools for "users can see and work with > >> thier > >> databases", if by that you mean execute queries, etc. > >> > >> -- > >> Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. > >> Westwood Consulting, Inc > >> > >> Most good judgment comes from experience. > >> Most experience comes from bad judgment. > >> - Anonymous > >> > >> > >> "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:520FF8F8-271E-4AE3-84B0-7433C04B9E5A@microsoft.com... > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > I am installing MSDE 2000 on client machines. Where can I dowload the > >> > client > >> > connectivity tools for MSDE so that users can see and work with thier > >> > databases? > >> > > >> > Do I have to download sql sp4 for that? Can someone please send me the > >> > link > >> > for downloading the client tools? > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > > >> > -- > >> > pmud > >> > >> > >> > >
Also Arnie, we have sql developer edition too. Do you think I can install that on the machines... since this will be for development only,... we wont be using this developer edition for production. Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks -- pmud [quoted text, click to view] "Arnie Rowland" wrote:
> The client tools you have on your "SQL SErver 2000 CD" are NOT be licensed > as client tools for MSDE. > > Do all the of computers that you contemplate needing 'client tools' > currently have a SQL Server Client Access License (CAL)? > > I would suggest that you verify with Microsoft licensing before you put your > company/agency at risk. > > Licensing -VL Contact > (800) 426-9400 > > -- > Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. > Westwood Consulting, Inc > > Most good judgment comes from experience. > Most experience comes from bad judgment. > - Anonymous > > > "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:23129FFE-B1D1-4C97-8E9B-6FE5F9913B7D@microsoft.com... > > Hi Arnie, > > > > By users seeing the databases , I mean like in Enterpsir Manager, users > > can > > see all the databases by right clicking and can see teh schema of the > > tables. > > > > Also, I have SQL SErver 2000 CD with valid license. So do I think I can > > copy > > the client tools from there and put it on all machines Ineed MSDE on? > > > > Which files do i need to copy for taking the client tools only? > > > > Thanks > > -- > > pmud > > > > > > "Arnie Rowland" wrote: > > > >> Microsoft does not provide any 'client tools' for MSDE. > >> > >> Users must have an application, or programming environment such as Visual > >> Studio -or even Access. > >> > >> There are some third party management tools on the internet -but I don't > >> recall that any of them where tools for "users can see and work with > >> thier > >> databases", if by that you mean execute queries, etc. > >> > >> -- > >> Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. > >> Westwood Consulting, Inc > >> > >> Most good judgment comes from experience. > >> Most experience comes from bad judgment. > >> - Anonymous > >> > >> > >> "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:520FF8F8-271E-4AE3-84B0-7433C04B9E5A@microsoft.com... > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > I am installing MSDE 2000 on client machines. Where can I dowload the > >> > client > >> > connectivity tools for MSDE so that users can see and work with thier > >> > databases? > >> > > >> > Do I have to download sql sp4 for that? Can someone please send me the > >> > link > >> > for downloading the client tools? > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > > >> > -- > >> > pmud > >> > >> > >> > >
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> Thanks for your response. I think if we have Process license for sql > server > 2000, we should be able to install sql server 2000 teself on any no. of > mahcines...without worrying about installing sql msde 2000.... What do you That is not correct. Your 'processor' license allows you to install SQL Server on ONE computer, and allow unlimited clients to have access to that ONE SQL Server. And you must have one license per CPU in that computer. If you have a second SQL Server, it must have its own license. I suggest that you may wish to chat with Microsoft licensing to clear up any 'uncertainties'. And to also verify what is allowed use for SQL 2000 client tools and multiple installations of MSDE. -- Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. Westwood Consulting, Inc Most good judgment comes from experience. Most experience comes from bad judgment. - Anonymous [quoted text, click to view] "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9406756B-9235-4387-B180-2A2ECFECAA9D@microsoft.com... > Hi Arni e, > > Thanks for your response. I think if we have Process license for sql > server > 2000, we should be able to install sql server 2000 teself on any no. of > mahcines...without worrying about installing sql msde 2000.... What do you > think? > > Thanks > -- > pmud > > > "Arnie Rowland" wrote: > >> The client tools you have on your "SQL SErver 2000 CD" are NOT be >> licensed >> as client tools for MSDE. >> >> Do all the of computers that you contemplate needing 'client tools' >> currently have a SQL Server Client Access License (CAL)? >> >> I would suggest that you verify with Microsoft licensing before you put >> your >> company/agency at risk. >> >> Licensing -VL Contact >> (800) 426-9400 >> >> -- >> Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. >> Westwood Consulting, Inc >> >> Most good judgment comes from experience. >> Most experience comes from bad judgment. >> - Anonymous >> >> >> "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:23129FFE-B1D1-4C97-8E9B-6FE5F9913B7D@microsoft.com... >> > Hi Arnie, >> > >> > By users seeing the databases , I mean like in Enterpsir Manager, users >> > can >> > see all the databases by right clicking and can see teh schema of the >> > tables. >> > >> > Also, I have SQL SErver 2000 CD with valid license. So do I think I can >> > copy >> > the client tools from there and put it on all machines Ineed MSDE on? >> > >> > Which files do i need to copy for taking the client tools only? >> > >> > Thanks >> > -- >> > pmud >> > >> > >> > "Arnie Rowland" wrote: >> > >> >> Microsoft does not provide any 'client tools' for MSDE. >> >> >> >> Users must have an application, or programming environment such as >> >> Visual >> >> Studio -or even Access. >> >> >> >> There are some third party management tools on the internet -but I >> >> don't >> >> recall that any of them where tools for "users can see and work with >> >> thier >> >> databases", if by that you mean execute queries, etc. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. >> >> Westwood Consulting, Inc >> >> >> >> Most good judgment comes from experience. >> >> Most experience comes from bad judgment. >> >> - Anonymous >> >> >> >> >> >> "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:520FF8F8-271E-4AE3-84B0-7433C04B9E5A@microsoft.com... >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > I am installing MSDE 2000 on client machines. Where can I dowload >> >> > the >> >> > client >> >> > connectivity tools for MSDE so that users can see and work with >> >> > thier >> >> > databases? >> >> > >> >> > Do I have to download sql sp4 for that? Can someone please send me >> >> > the >> >> > link >> >> > for downloading the client tools? >> >> > >> >> > Thanks >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > pmud >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
If you are doing 'new' development, I suggest that you may wish to explore
SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition. Then there will be no question/issue about client tools and licensing. I believe the cost is about $50 (US) per developer, and you are allowed to have as many SQL Servers as necessary to support your development efforts. For more details: Licensing -Developer Edition My understanding of the Developers Edition license is that you are covered for a Development server, an Integration/Staging server, even a QA/Test server, local servers on the developers computer, etc. -as long as no one except developers access those SQL Servers, and as long as each developer and/or Tester has a Developer Edition License. For a more definitive answer, check with the VL folks at: (800) 426-9400. From: http://www.microsoft.com/sql/editions/developer/default.mspx Each license of SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition entitles one developer to use the software on as many systems as necessary and additional developers can use the software by purchasing additional licenses. From: http://download.microsoft.com/download/e/c/a/ecafe5d1-b514-48ab-93eb-61377df9c5c2/SQLServer2005Licensingv1.1.doc DEVELOPER EDITION SQL Server Developer Edition is a separate product and is used for development and testing purposes only. It is licensed per developer or tester (person). -- Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. Westwood Consulting, Inc Most good judgment comes from experience. Most experience comes from bad judgment. - Anonymous [quoted text, click to view] "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BC52F760-BD17-4C22-8DD0-916DDE4BB2B2@microsoft.com... > > Also Arnie, we have sql developer edition too. Do you think I can install > that on the machines... since this will be for development only,... we > wont > be using this developer edition for production. > > Please let me know your thoughts. > > Thanks > > -- > pmud > > > "Arnie Rowland" wrote: > >> The client tools you have on your "SQL SErver 2000 CD" are NOT be >> licensed >> as client tools for MSDE. >> >> Do all the of computers that you contemplate needing 'client tools' >> currently have a SQL Server Client Access License (CAL)? >> >> I would suggest that you verify with Microsoft licensing before you put >> your >> company/agency at risk. >> >> Licensing -VL Contact >> (800) 426-9400 >> >> -- >> Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. >> Westwood Consulting, Inc >> >> Most good judgment comes from experience. >> Most experience comes from bad judgment. >> - Anonymous >> >> >> "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:23129FFE-B1D1-4C97-8E9B-6FE5F9913B7D@microsoft.com... >> > Hi Arnie, >> > >> > By users seeing the databases , I mean like in Enterpsir Manager, users >> > can >> > see all the databases by right clicking and can see teh schema of the >> > tables. >> > >> > Also, I have SQL SErver 2000 CD with valid license. So do I think I can >> > copy >> > the client tools from there and put it on all machines Ineed MSDE on? >> > >> > Which files do i need to copy for taking the client tools only? >> > >> > Thanks >> > -- >> > pmud >> > >> > >> > "Arnie Rowland" wrote: >> > >> >> Microsoft does not provide any 'client tools' for MSDE. >> >> >> >> Users must have an application, or programming environment such as >> >> Visual >> >> Studio -or even Access. >> >> >> >> There are some third party management tools on the internet -but I >> >> don't >> >> recall that any of them where tools for "users can see and work with >> >> thier >> >> databases", if by that you mean execute queries, etc. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. >> >> Westwood Consulting, Inc >> >> >> >> Most good judgment comes from experience. >> >> Most experience comes from bad judgment. >> >> - Anonymous >> >> >> >> >> >> "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:520FF8F8-271E-4AE3-84B0-7433C04B9E5A@microsoft.com... >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > I am installing MSDE 2000 on client machines. Where can I dowload >> >> > the >> >> > client >> >> > connectivity tools for MSDE so that users can see and work with >> >> > thier >> >> > databases? >> >> > >> >> > Do I have to download sql sp4 for that? Can someone please send me >> >> > the >> >> > link >> >> > for downloading the client tools? >> >> > >> >> > Thanks >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > pmud >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
Thanks Arnie. It was helpful.
-- pmud [quoted text, click to view] "Arnie Rowland" wrote:
> > Thanks for your response. I think if we have Process license for sql > > server > > 2000, we should be able to install sql server 2000 teself on any no. of > > mahcines...without worrying about installing sql msde 2000.... What do you > > That is not correct. Your 'processor' license allows you to install SQL > Server on ONE computer, and allow unlimited clients to have access to that > ONE SQL Server. And you must have one license per CPU in that computer. > > If you have a second SQL Server, it must have its own license. > > I suggest that you may wish to chat with Microsoft licensing to clear up any > 'uncertainties'. And to also verify what is allowed use for SQL 2000 client > tools and multiple installations of MSDE. > > -- > Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. > Westwood Consulting, Inc > > Most good judgment comes from experience. > Most experience comes from bad judgment. > - Anonymous > > > "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:9406756B-9235-4387-B180-2A2ECFECAA9D@microsoft.com... > > Hi Arni e, > > > > Thanks for your response. I think if we have Process license for sql > > server > > 2000, we should be able to install sql server 2000 teself on any no. of > > mahcines...without worrying about installing sql msde 2000.... What do you > > think? > > > > Thanks > > -- > > pmud > > > > > > "Arnie Rowland" wrote: > > > >> The client tools you have on your "SQL SErver 2000 CD" are NOT be > >> licensed > >> as client tools for MSDE. > >> > >> Do all the of computers that you contemplate needing 'client tools' > >> currently have a SQL Server Client Access License (CAL)? > >> > >> I would suggest that you verify with Microsoft licensing before you put > >> your > >> company/agency at risk. > >> > >> Licensing -VL Contact > >> (800) 426-9400 > >> > >> -- > >> Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. > >> Westwood Consulting, Inc > >> > >> Most good judgment comes from experience. > >> Most experience comes from bad judgment. > >> - Anonymous > >> > >> > >> "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:23129FFE-B1D1-4C97-8E9B-6FE5F9913B7D@microsoft.com... > >> > Hi Arnie, > >> > > >> > By users seeing the databases , I mean like in Enterpsir Manager, users > >> > can > >> > see all the databases by right clicking and can see teh schema of the > >> > tables. > >> > > >> > Also, I have SQL SErver 2000 CD with valid license. So do I think I can > >> > copy > >> > the client tools from there and put it on all machines Ineed MSDE on? > >> > > >> > Which files do i need to copy for taking the client tools only? > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > -- > >> > pmud > >> > > >> > > >> > "Arnie Rowland" wrote: > >> > > >> >> Microsoft does not provide any 'client tools' for MSDE. > >> >> > >> >> Users must have an application, or programming environment such as > >> >> Visual > >> >> Studio -or even Access. > >> >> > >> >> There are some third party management tools on the internet -but I > >> >> don't > >> >> recall that any of them where tools for "users can see and work with > >> >> thier > >> >> databases", if by that you mean execute queries, etc. > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. > >> >> Westwood Consulting, Inc > >> >> > >> >> Most good judgment comes from experience. > >> >> Most experience comes from bad judgment. > >> >> - Anonymous > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:520FF8F8-271E-4AE3-84B0-7433C04B9E5A@microsoft.com... > >> >> > Hi, > >> >> > > >> >> > I am installing MSDE 2000 on client machines. Where can I dowload > >> >> > the > >> >> > client > >> >> > connectivity tools for MSDE so that users can see and work with > >> >> > thier > >> >> > databases? > >> >> > > >> >> > Do I have to download sql sp4 for that? Can someone please send me > >> >> > the > >> >> > link > >> >> > for downloading the client tools? > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > pmud > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >
Hi Sue,
Its great to know about the SQL Web Data Admin. I installed it , but then I go to view the page from http://localhost/webadmin/default.aspx, its showing me the code instead of the web page. I know this is happening coz in IIS my web sites are not configured to regonize to .aspx extension. How to configure IIS to understand .aspx extension? I know we have to right lick on teh properties for the node called Web Sites in IIS, then go to Home Diretory tab, click Configuration button at the bottom, BUt what do I enter in the next window that pulls up , i.e what will be the executable path for .aspx extension? Thanks -- pmud [quoted text, click to view] "Sue Hoegemeier" wrote:
> Actually, Microsoft does have a tool for administering MSDE > databases. SQL Server Web Data Administrator was developed > with this in mind. You can download it from: > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=c039a798-c57a-419e-acbc-2a332cb7f959&displaylang=en > > You can find a list of other alternatives, options at: > http://sqlserver2000.databases.aspfaq.com/how-do-i-manage-sql-server/msde.html > > -Sue > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:14:02 -0700, pmud > <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > > > >Also Arnie, we have sql developer edition too. Do you think I can install > >that on the machines... since this will be for development only,... we wont > >be using this developer edition for production. > > > >Please let me know your thoughts. > > > >Thanks >
Actually, Microsoft does have a tool for administering MSDE
databases. SQL Server Web Data Administrator was developed with this in mind. You can download it from: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=c039a798-c57a-419e-acbc-2a332cb7f959&displaylang=en You can find a list of other alternatives, options at: http://sqlserver2000.databases.aspfaq.com/how-do-i-manage-sql-server/msde.html -Sue On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:14:02 -0700, pmud [quoted text, click to view] <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >Also Arnie, we have sql developer edition too. Do you think I can install >that on the machines... since this will be for development only,... we wont >be using this developer edition for production. > >Please let me know your thoughts. > >Thanks
If you have the .Net framework installed and need to
configure IIS for ASP.Net, you should be able to just run aspnet_regiis -i from the framework's folder location and it will do the necessary steps to configure IIS for ASP.NET This article addresses the gist of what you would need to do: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=306005 -Sue On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:24:02 -0700, pmud [quoted text, click to view] <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>Hi Sue, > >Its great to know about the SQL Web Data Admin. I installed it , but then I >go to view the page from http://localhost/webadmin/default.aspx, its showing >me the code instead of the web page. > >I know this is happening coz in IIS my web sites are not configured to >regonize to .aspx extension. How to configure IIS to understand .aspx >extension? I know we have to right lick on teh properties for the node called >Web Sites in IIS, then go to Home Diretory tab, click Configuration button at >the bottom, BUt what do I enter in the next window that pulls up , i.e what >will be the executable path for .aspx extension? > >Thanks
Hi Sue,
I ran the aspnet_regiis -i as mentioned in the article , but now when I browse to the page, i am getting error: Server Error in '/webadmin' Application. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Access is denied. Description: An error occurred while accessing the resources required to serve this request. The server may not be configured for access to the requested URL. Error message 401.2.: You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials you supplied. Contact the Web server's administrator for help. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:1.1.4322.2032; ASP.NET Version:1.1.4322.2032 I am an admin on my machine...Please help. Thanks -- pmud [quoted text, click to view] "Sue Hoegemeier" wrote:
> If you have the .Net framework installed and need to > configure IIS for ASP.Net, you should be able to just run > aspnet_regiis -i > from the framework's folder location and it will do the > necessary steps to configure IIS for ASP.NET > This article addresses the gist of what you would need to > do: > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=306005 > > -Sue > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:24:02 -0700, pmud > <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >Hi Sue, > > > >Its great to know about the SQL Web Data Admin. I installed it , but then I > >go to view the page from http://localhost/webadmin/default.aspx, its showing > >me the code instead of the web page. > > > >I know this is happening coz in IIS my web sites are not configured to > >regonize to .aspx extension. How to configure IIS to understand .aspx > >extension? I know we have to right lick on teh properties for the node called > >Web Sites in IIS, then go to Home Diretory tab, click Configuration button at > >the bottom, BUt what do I enter in the next window that pulls up , i.e what > >will be the executable path for .aspx extension? > > > >Thanks >
Hi Sue,
I got the reson for the issue. The problem was that I had not selection any authentication type in anonymous access and authentication control in IIS --> Directory Security . I check the Integrated Windows Authentication and it worked. Thanks a lot for your help. -- pmud [quoted text, click to view] "pmud" wrote:
> Hi Sue, > > I ran the aspnet_regiis -i as mentioned in the article , but now when I > browse to the page, i am getting error: > > Server Error in '/webadmin' Application. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Access is denied. > Description: An error occurred while accessing the resources required to > serve this request. The server may not be configured for access to the > requested URL. > > Error message 401.2.: You do not have permission to view this directory or > page using the credentials you supplied. Contact the Web server's > administrator for help. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:1.1.4322.2032; ASP.NET > Version:1.1.4322.2032 > > I am an admin on my machine...Please help. > > Thanks > > -- > pmud > > > "Sue Hoegemeier" wrote: > > > If you have the .Net framework installed and need to > > configure IIS for ASP.Net, you should be able to just run > > aspnet_regiis -i > > from the framework's folder location and it will do the > > necessary steps to configure IIS for ASP.NET > > This article addresses the gist of what you would need to > > do: > > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=306005 > > > > -Sue > > > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:24:02 -0700, pmud > > <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > > > >Hi Sue, > > > > > >Its great to know about the SQL Web Data Admin. I installed it , but then I > > >go to view the page from http://localhost/webadmin/default.aspx, its showing > > >me the code instead of the web page. > > > > > >I know this is happening coz in IIS my web sites are not configured to > > >regonize to .aspx extension. How to configure IIS to understand .aspx > > >extension? I know we have to right lick on teh properties for the node called > > >Web Sites in IIS, then go to Home Diretory tab, click Configuration button at > > >the bottom, BUt what do I enter in the next window that pulls up , i.e what > > >will be the executable path for .aspx extension? > > > > > >Thanks > >
Hi Sue,
i got the login page now. But I cant get past the login page, it hangs when i click the login button. I tried with both SQL login and also the Windows Integrated authentication, but nothign is allowing me past that login screen. Also, just an FYI, I have set Anonymous access and Windows Integrated Authentication in IIS-->Directory Security. Any ideas on this are welcome. Thanks a lot. -- pmud [quoted text, click to view] "pmud" wrote:
> Hi Sue, > > I ran the aspnet_regiis -i as mentioned in the article , but now when I > browse to the page, i am getting error: > > Server Error in '/webadmin' Application. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Access is denied. > Description: An error occurred while accessing the resources required to > serve this request. The server may not be configured for access to the > requested URL. > > Error message 401.2.: You do not have permission to view this directory or > page using the credentials you supplied. Contact the Web server's > administrator for help. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:1.1.4322.2032; ASP.NET > Version:1.1.4322.2032 > > I am an admin on my machine...Please help. > > Thanks > > -- > pmud > > > "Sue Hoegemeier" wrote: > > > If you have the .Net framework installed and need to > > configure IIS for ASP.Net, you should be able to just run > > aspnet_regiis -i > > from the framework's folder location and it will do the > > necessary steps to configure IIS for ASP.NET > > This article addresses the gist of what you would need to > > do: > > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=306005 > > > > -Sue > > > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:24:02 -0700, pmud > > <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > > > >Hi Sue, > > > > > >Its great to know about the SQL Web Data Admin. I installed it , but then I > > >go to view the page from http://localhost/webadmin/default.aspx, its showing > > >me the code instead of the web page. > > > > > >I know this is happening coz in IIS my web sites are not configured to > > >regonize to .aspx extension. How to configure IIS to understand .aspx > > >extension? I know we have to right lick on teh properties for the node called > > >Web Sites in IIS, then go to Home Diretory tab, click Configuration button at > > >the bottom, BUt what do I enter in the next window that pulls up , i.e what > > >will be the executable path for .aspx extension? > > > > > >Thanks > >
Here are some alternative MSDE management tools that may prove easier in
your situation. MSDE -Tools http://www.microsoft.com/sql/partners/msde.mspx -- Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. Westwood Consulting, Inc Most good judgment comes from experience. Most experience comes from bad judgment. - Anonymous [quoted text, click to view] "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0A1AC0AE-1BF4-414D-A021-513A388DE5C6@microsoft.com... > Hi Sue, > > i got the login page now. But I cant get past the login page, it hangs > when > i click the login button. I tried with both SQL login and also the > Windows > Integrated authentication, but nothign is allowing me past that login > screen. > > Also, just an FYI, I have set Anonymous access and Windows Integrated > Authentication in IIS-->Directory Security. > > Any ideas on this are welcome. > > Thanks a lot. > -- > pmud > > > "pmud" wrote: > >> Hi Sue, >> >> I ran the aspnet_regiis -i as mentioned in the article , but now when I >> browse to the page, i am getting error: >> >> Server Error in '/webadmin' Application. >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Access is denied. >> Description: An error occurred while accessing the resources required to >> serve this request. The server may not be configured for access to the >> requested URL. >> >> Error message 401.2.: You do not have permission to view this directory >> or >> page using the credentials you supplied. Contact the Web server's >> administrator for help. >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:1.1.4322.2032; >> ASP.NET >> Version:1.1.4322.2032 >> >> I am an admin on my machine...Please help. >> >> Thanks >> >> -- >> pmud >> >> >> "Sue Hoegemeier" wrote: >> >> > If you have the .Net framework installed and need to >> > configure IIS for ASP.Net, you should be able to just run >> > aspnet_regiis -i >> > from the framework's folder location and it will do the >> > necessary steps to configure IIS for ASP.NET >> > This article addresses the gist of what you would need to >> > do: >> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=306005 >> > >> > -Sue >> > >> > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:24:02 -0700, pmud >> > <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> > >> > >Hi Sue, >> > > >> > >Its great to know about the SQL Web Data Admin. I installed it , but >> > >then I >> > >go to view the page from http://localhost/webadmin/default.aspx, its >> > >showing >> > >me the code instead of the web page. >> > > >> > >I know this is happening coz in IIS my web sites are not configured to >> > >regonize to .aspx extension. How to configure IIS to understand .aspx >> > >extension? I know we have to right lick on teh properties for the node >> > >called >> > >Web Sites in IIS, then go to Home Diretory tab, click Configuration >> > >button at >> > >the bottom, BUt what do I enter in the next window that pulls up , i.e >> > >what >> > >will be the executable path for .aspx extension? >> > > >> > >Thanks >> > >> >
Hi Arnie,
We are trying to look at some free tool. I am hoping to solve the login problem with sql web data admin itself.. since I am so close on that. Thanks -- pmud [quoted text, click to view] "Arnie Rowland" wrote:
> Here are some alternative MSDE management tools that may prove easier in > your situation. > > MSDE -Tools > http://www.microsoft.com/sql/partners/msde.mspx > > > -- > Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. > Westwood Consulting, Inc > > Most good judgment comes from experience. > Most experience comes from bad judgment. > - Anonymous > > > "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:0A1AC0AE-1BF4-414D-A021-513A388DE5C6@microsoft.com... > > Hi Sue, > > > > i got the login page now. But I cant get past the login page, it hangs > > when > > i click the login button. I tried with both SQL login and also the > > Windows > > Integrated authentication, but nothign is allowing me past that login > > screen. > > > > Also, just an FYI, I have set Anonymous access and Windows Integrated > > Authentication in IIS-->Directory Security. > > > > Any ideas on this are welcome. > > > > Thanks a lot. > > -- > > pmud > > > > > > "pmud" wrote: > > > >> Hi Sue, > >> > >> I ran the aspnet_regiis -i as mentioned in the article , but now when I > >> browse to the page, i am getting error: > >> > >> Server Error in '/webadmin' Application. > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Access is denied. > >> Description: An error occurred while accessing the resources required to > >> serve this request. The server may not be configured for access to the > >> requested URL. > >> > >> Error message 401.2.: You do not have permission to view this directory > >> or > >> page using the credentials you supplied. Contact the Web server's > >> administrator for help. > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:1.1.4322.2032; > >> ASP.NET > >> Version:1.1.4322.2032 > >> > >> I am an admin on my machine...Please help. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> -- > >> pmud > >> > >> > >> "Sue Hoegemeier" wrote: > >> > >> > If you have the .Net framework installed and need to > >> > configure IIS for ASP.Net, you should be able to just run > >> > aspnet_regiis -i > >> > from the framework's folder location and it will do the > >> > necessary steps to configure IIS for ASP.NET > >> > This article addresses the gist of what you would need to > >> > do: > >> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=306005 > >> > > >> > -Sue > >> > > >> > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:24:02 -0700, pmud > >> > <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > >Hi Sue, > >> > > > >> > >Its great to know about the SQL Web Data Admin. I installed it , but > >> > >then I > >> > >go to view the page from http://localhost/webadmin/default.aspx, its > >> > >showing > >> > >me the code instead of the web page. > >> > > > >> > >I know this is happening coz in IIS my web sites are not configured to > >> > >regonize to .aspx extension. How to configure IIS to understand .aspx > >> > >extension? I know we have to right lick on teh properties for the node > >> > >called > >> > >Web Sites in IIS, then go to Home Diretory tab, click Configuration > >> > >button at > >> > >the bottom, BUt what do I enter in the next window that pulls up , i.e > >> > >what > >> > >will be the executable path for .aspx extension? > >> > > > >> > >Thanks > >> > > >> > > >
Some of those tools are Free. I guess you didn't bother to look.
-- Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. Westwood Consulting, Inc Most good judgment comes from experience. Most experience comes from bad judgment. - Anonymous [quoted text, click to view] "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E16C5F8F-7EEB-473A-B398-2E7A14FE11CC@microsoft.com... > Hi Arnie, > > We are trying to look at some free tool. I am hoping to solve the login > problem with sql web data admin itself.. since I am so close on that. > > Thanks > > -- > pmud > > > "Arnie Rowland" wrote: > >> Here are some alternative MSDE management tools that may prove easier in >> your situation. >> >> MSDE -Tools >> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/partners/msde.mspx >> >> >> -- >> Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. >> Westwood Consulting, Inc >> >> Most good judgment comes from experience. >> Most experience comes from bad judgment. >> - Anonymous >> >> >> "pmud" <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:0A1AC0AE-1BF4-414D-A021-513A388DE5C6@microsoft.com... >> > Hi Sue, >> > >> > i got the login page now. But I cant get past the login page, it hangs >> > when >> > i click the login button. I tried with both SQL login and also the >> > Windows >> > Integrated authentication, but nothign is allowing me past that login >> > screen. >> > >> > Also, just an FYI, I have set Anonymous access and Windows Integrated >> > Authentication in IIS-->Directory Security. >> > >> > Any ideas on this are welcome. >> > >> > Thanks a lot. >> > -- >> > pmud >> > >> > >> > "pmud" wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Sue, >> >> >> >> I ran the aspnet_regiis -i as mentioned in the article , but now when >> >> I >> >> browse to the page, i am getting error: >> >> >> >> Server Error in '/webadmin' Application. >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Access is denied. >> >> Description: An error occurred while accessing the resources required >> >> to >> >> serve this request. The server may not be configured for access to the >> >> requested URL. >> >> >> >> Error message 401.2.: You do not have permission to view this >> >> directory >> >> or >> >> page using the credentials you supplied. Contact the Web server's >> >> administrator for help. >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:1.1.4322.2032; >> >> ASP.NET >> >> Version:1.1.4322.2032 >> >> >> >> I am an admin on my machine...Please help. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> -- >> >> pmud >> >> >> >> >> >> "Sue Hoegemeier" wrote: >> >> >> >> > If you have the .Net framework installed and need to >> >> > configure IIS for ASP.Net, you should be able to just run >> >> > aspnet_regiis -i >> >> > from the framework's folder location and it will do the >> >> > necessary steps to configure IIS for ASP.NET >> >> > This article addresses the gist of what you would need to >> >> > do: >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=306005 >> >> > >> >> > -Sue >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:24:02 -0700, pmud >> >> > <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >Hi Sue, >> >> > > >> >> > >Its great to know about the SQL Web Data Admin. I installed it , >> >> > >but >> >> > >then I >> >> > >go to view the page from http://localhost/webadmin/default.aspx, >> >> > >its >> >> > >showing >> >> > >me the code instead of the web page. >> >> > > >> >> > >I know this is happening coz in IIS my web sites are not configured >> >> > >to >> >> > >regonize to .aspx extension. How to configure IIS to understand >> >> > >.aspx >> >> > >extension? I know we have to right lick on teh properties for the >> >> > >node >> >> > >called >> >> > >Web Sites in IIS, then go to Home Diretory tab, click Configuration >> >> > >button at >> >> > >the bottom, BUt what do I enter in the next window that pulls up , >> >> > >i.e >> >> > >what >> >> > >will be the executable path for .aspx extension? >> >> > > >> >> > >Thanks >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >>
Your welcome - glad you got it up and running.
-Sue On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 08:48:02 -0700, pmud [quoted text, click to view] <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>Hi Sue, > >I got the reson for the issue. The problem was that I had not selection any >authentication type in anonymous access and authentication control in IIS --> >Directory Security . I check the Integrated Windows Authentication and it >worked. > >Thanks a lot for your help.
That could be related to an issue with 1.1 .NetFramework
SP1. Check the following post and suggested fix: http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.sqlserver.tools/msg/806975c1c9ca88d8?hl=en& Also check the link that the above article references to some other similar issues and fixes posted on SQLJunkies. It may take a bit of tweaking but you'll get it running soon. -Sue On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:10:02 -0700, pmud [quoted text, click to view] <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>Hi Sue, > >i got the login page now. But I cant get past the login page, it hangs when >i click the login button. I tried with both SQL login and also the Windows >Integrated authentication, but nothign is allowing me past that login screen. > >Also, just an FYI, I have set Anonymous access and Windows Integrated >Authentication in IIS-->Directory Security. > >Any ideas on this are welcome. > >Thanks a lot.
Actually, pmud already has most of those (and others) in the
link for other alternatives, options that I posted yesterday: http://sqlserver2000.databases.aspfaq.com/how-do-i-manage-sql-server/msde.html -Sue On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:53:03 -0700, "Arnie Rowland" [quoted text, click to view] <arnie@1568.com> wrote:
>Some of those tools are Free. I guess you didn't bother to look.
Hi Sue,
You are a star! That works perfectly. I had to copy the WebUIValidation.js to the SQL Web Data admin installation path. Thanks a bunch! :)) -- pmud [quoted text, click to view] "Sue Hoegemeier" wrote:
> That could be related to an issue with 1.1 .NetFramework > SP1. Check the following post and suggested fix: > http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.sqlserver.tools/msg/806975c1c9ca88d8?hl=en& > > Also check the link that the above article references to > some other similar issues and fixes posted on SQLJunkies. > It may take a bit of tweaking but you'll get it running > soon. > > -Sue > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:10:02 -0700, pmud > <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >Hi Sue, > > > >i got the login page now. But I cant get past the login page, it hangs when > >i click the login button. I tried with both SQL login and also the Windows > >Integrated authentication, but nothign is allowing me past that login screen. > > > >Also, just an FYI, I have set Anonymous access and Windows Integrated > >Authentication in IIS-->Directory Security. > > > >Any ideas on this are welcome. > > > >Thanks a lot. >
Hi Sue,
One last quick question. Is there any way to view table data / add table records in sql web data admin without executing queries? Thanks a bunch. -- pmud [quoted text, click to view] "pmud" wrote:
> Hi Sue, > > You are a star! That works perfectly. I had to copy the WebUIValidation.js > to the SQL Web Data admin installation path. > > Thanks a bunch! :)) > -- > pmud > > > "Sue Hoegemeier" wrote: > > > That could be related to an issue with 1.1 .NetFramework > > SP1. Check the following post and suggested fix: > > http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.sqlserver.tools/msg/806975c1c9ca88d8?hl=en& > > > > Also check the link that the above article references to > > some other similar issues and fixes posted on SQLJunkies. > > It may take a bit of tweaking but you'll get it running > > soon. > > > > -Sue > > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:10:02 -0700, pmud > > <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > > > >Hi Sue, > > > > > >i got the login page now. But I cant get past the login page, it hangs when > > >i click the login button. I tried with both SQL login and also the Windows > > >Integrated authentication, but nothign is allowing me past that login screen. > > > > > >Also, just an FYI, I have set Anonymous access and Windows Integrated > > >Authentication in IIS-->Directory Security. > > > > > >Any ideas on this are welcome. > > > > > >Thanks a lot. > >
Good to hear - thanks for posted back.
Glad to have helped - Have fun with it! -Sue On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:13:02 -0700, pmud [quoted text, click to view] <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>Hi Sue, > >You are a star! That works perfectly. I had to copy the WebUIValidation.js >to the SQL Web Data admin installation path. > >Thanks a bunch! :))
Somehow, I suspected, many, many, messages ago, that the OP wanted something
more like an Access front end. From the first post: "so that users can see and work with thier databases" Perhaps some of the 'free' third party tools that both of us have provided links for will satisfy the need... -- Arnie Rowland, Ph.D. Westwood Consulting, Inc Most good judgment comes from experience. Most experience comes from bad judgment. - Anonymous [quoted text, click to view] "Sue Hoegemeier" <Sue_H@nomail.please> wrote in message news:l2ilh2p8cvdkbi0q6vr0foijvk9q2bh1ct@4ax.com... > If I remember right, I think you have to do it through that > query window. There should be an option on the left frame as > well as on the top navigation bar to hit query when you are > viewing a database. You can save and load query files > though. It's not really good to use Enterprise Manager as a > data management tool - so it forces you into better habits > anyway :) > After awhile, writing queries to select and insert data ends > up being faster and without the problems of using Enterprise > Manager for this. > > -Sue > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:21:02 -0700, pmud > <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >>Hi Sue, >> >>One last quick question. Is there any way to view table data / add table >>records in sql web data admin without executing queries? >> >>Thanks a bunch. >
If I remember right, I think you have to do it through that
query window. There should be an option on the left frame as well as on the top navigation bar to hit query when you are viewing a database. You can save and load query files though. It's not really good to use Enterprise Manager as a data management tool - so it forces you into better habits anyway :) After awhile, writing queries to select and insert data ends up being faster and without the problems of using Enterprise Manager for this. -Sue On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:21:02 -0700, pmud [quoted text, click to view] <pmud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>Hi Sue, > >One last quick question. Is there any way to view table data / add table >records in sql web data admin without executing queries? > >Thanks a bunch.
Hi.
Despite the indignance of some people, here is the link to download the SQL Server Client Tools for use with MSDE. http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/b/d/1bdf5b78-584e-4de0-b36f-c44e06b0d2a3/SQL2000-KB884525-SP4-x86-ENU.EXE I have downloaded MSDE and the Client Tools myself so I know this to be the case. I came across this page when searching for the client tools for a new laptop on which I have already installed MSDE. I do wish that people would not confuse "I don't know how to do something" with "it cannot be done." There's very little in this universe that cannot be done :) Anyway, in answer to your question, you were half right. The download is only part of SP4 (thankfully) and therefore only weighs about 67MB, and not the 240MB total SP size. I hope this helps. Have fun! Captain Murphy All hail the Barbot-Bot!!! Courtesy of EggHeadCafe.com Earn money answering messageboard posts at
Incidentally, if you can't install from the SP4 download, download the SQL Server 2000 Evaluation and simply install just the Client Tools.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/thankyou.aspx?familyId=D20BA6E1-F44C-4781-A6BB-F60E02DC1335&displayLang=en It's a bigger download, but has the desired effect. Enjoy! Captain Murphy All hail the Barbot-Bot!!! Courtesy of EggHeadCafe.com Earn money answering messageboard posts at
I believe most people are looking for ways which are in
compliance with licensing agreements. You need a valid, legal SQL Server CAL to install the client tools. If someone does not have this, the methods you are suggesting are not legal. The gist of it is explained in the following link: http://sqlserver2000.databases.aspfaq.com/how-do-i-manage-sql-server/msde.html The appropriate uses of MSDE is no longer posted on Microsoft's site since the release of 2005, but the related Q and A stated: Q. Can I use SQL Server tools and services in conjunction with MSDE? A. You can only use SQL Server tools and services in conjunction with MSDE if you acquired MSDE through SQL Server 2000 (Developer Edition, Standard Edition, or Enterprise Edition), and if you are using MSDE in conjunction with a properly licensed copy of SQL Server 2000. Visit the How to Buy page for information on obtaining a valid SQL Server license. Note: The tools and services included with SQL Server Developer Edition may not be used to manage production server environments. -Sue [quoted text, click to view] On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:30:12 -0700, Captain Murphy wrote:
>Incidentally, if you can't install from the SP4 download, download the SQL Server 2000 Evaluation and simply install just the Client Tools. > >http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/thankyou.aspx?familyId=D20BA6E1-F44C-4781-A6BB-F60E02DC1335&displayLang=en > >It's a bigger download, but has the desired effect. > >Enjoy! > >Captain Murphy >All hail the Barbot-Bot!!! > >Courtesy of EggHeadCafe.com >Earn money answering messageboard posts at >http://www.eggheadcafe.com/forummerit.aspx
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