"Peter" <pwu_1024@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1cbe401c38882$6a7ed990$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> It is now working! Thank you all, Peter, Jamie and Raman.
>
> I checked out the two papers (shown in the following)
> listed on the FAQ in answering the question "Where do I
> get the details of the two algorithms? " However, they
> don't seem to address very clearly what the creteria is
> used to stop the splitting, which node to split and the
> discretization of continuous values. Is there any other
> document better addressing these issues? I know there are
> many academic papers talking about these issues, but my
> main concern is how they are handled in Microsoft Decision
> Tree.
>
> Papers I read:
> =====================================================
> - Correlation counting:
> Surajit Chaudhuri, Usama M. Fayyad, Jeff Bernhardt,
> Scalable Classification over SQL Databases. ICDE 1999: 470-
> 479
> Found in
> http://ftp.research.microsoft.com/Users/surajitc/icde99.pdf
>
> - The default scoring methods (Bayesian Dirichlet
> Equivalent with Uniform prior):
> David M. Chickering; Dan Geiger; David Heckerman,
> Learning Bayesian Networks: The Combination of Knowledge
> and
> Statistical Data, MSR-TR-94-09, 1994
> Found in
> http://www.research.microsoft.com/scripts/pubdb/pubsasp.asp
> ?recordID=81
> =======================================================
>
> Another thing is that when I try to get information on how
> to plug-in third party's algorithm from the following link
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/techinfo/BI/2000/dmproviderswp
> .asp
>
> I got the "Page not found" error. Did I miss something?
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Peter
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >You also need to register the DataMiningAddIns.dll.
> >
> >--
> >Raman Iyer
> >SQL Server Data Mining
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> >..
> >
> >"Peter" <pwu_1024@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:0e5201c3885b$7b4e5b00$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Jamie and Peter,
> >>
> >> Thanks a lot for the reply. The link works just fine.
> >>
> >> I have downloaded the following package
> >>
> >> DataMiningAddIns.exe
> >>
> >> and unzipped it. According to the readme.txt, I closed
> the
> >> running application Analysis Manager and ran the
> >>
> >> DataMiningAddIn.reg
> >>
> >> After that, I got the message saying that the
> registration
> >> is successful.
> >>
> >> Then, I started the Analysis Manager again. But here is
> >> the problem, when I right click the mining models of one
> >> database, say "Mushrooms", I can not see the "Advanced
> >> Model Properties" from the list.
> >>
> >> When I right click on server name and select properties,
> >> the "Add-ins" tab shows that "Mining model properties"
> as
> >> available Add-ins but there is also a yellow sign
> >> saying "this tab applies to the local computer only".
> >>
> >> I am not sure where went wrong. Any suggestions?
> >>
> >> I am using SQL Server 2000 (SP3), Analysis Manger SP3 on
> >> Windows 2000, FYI.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Yes, I just tried and it still there.
> >> >
> >>
> >http://www.msnusers.com/AnalysisServicesDataMining/Documen
> >> ts/Files%2FFAQ.htm
> >> >or
> >>
> >http://www.msnusers.com/AnalysisServicesDataMining/faq.msn
> >> w
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Peter Kim
> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
> and
> >> confers no rights.
> >> >
> >> >"Peter" <pwu_1024@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:0e2501c386d6$955b5560$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> Jamie,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for the reply. I am ware that website. But
> when I
> >> >> wend there, the webpage just can not be accessed. Can
> >> you
> >> >> confirm that it is still there?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> http://groups.msn.com/AnalysisServicesDataMining/Documents/
> >> >> Files/FAQ%2Ehtm
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >> Peter
> >> >>
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >You can find many of your answers in the FAQ at
> >> >> >http://groups.msn.com/AnalysisServicesDataMining
> >> >> >
> >> >> >In particular you can control the way a tree splits
> and
> >> >> how deep it is with
> >> >> >the SPLIT_METHOD and COMPLEXITY_PENALTY
> parameters. At
> >> >> the above website,
> >> >> >there is a sample AM plug-in that provides a user-
> >> >> interface for setting
> >> >> >algorithm parameters.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I believe you can also find the link to the sample
> >> OLEDB
> >> >> for Data Mining
> >> >> >provider that you can use as a basis for your own
> >> >> algorithms
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >Jamie MacLennan
> >> >> >SQL Server Data Mining
> >> >> >
> >> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
> >> and
> >> >> confers no rights.
> >> >> >----------------------------------------------------
> ---
> >> ---
> >> >> -------
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Peter" <pwu_1024@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:0a1401c3846d$3b01eef0$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I am using the built in Microsoft Decision Tree to
> >> >> perform
> >> >> >> some data mining task on my Analysis Server
> (SP3). I
> >> >> have
> >> >> >> some difficulty to understand how it pickes the
> node
> >> and
> >> >> >> how it splits and terminates, etc.. I'd really
> like
> >> to
> >> >> >> know how the algorithm works.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Another question is: Is there anyway to control
> the
> >> >> >> splitting and terminating conditions from the
> >> Analysis
> >> >> >> Manager?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The last question is that I read the Analysis
> Manager
> >> >> >> (SP3) supports the third party's algorithm plug
> in.