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Re: SP3 FTI performance? John Kane
7/22/2003 9:28:13 AM
sql server full text search: René,
Hopefully, this is not what is to be expected after upgrading to a new
service pack, SP3 or any other one!
Have you eliminated any non-FTS SQL Server related issues, such as updating
the table statistics or rebuilding the primary index? Are the query plans
the same as they were with SP2 + slammer protection? If not, then what is
the difference?

Regards,
John



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Re: SP3 FTI performance? John Kane
7/22/2003 2:00:03 PM
René,
Yes, this sounds like a messy process and I know hindsight is "20/20", but
you might of been better off with not upgrading the FT Catalogs during the
SP3 upgrade. This is an option you can select during the SP3 installation
process and then upgrade FT Catalogs at a later point. although, I know the
FTS process is VIP to your processing... Perhaps, at this point it might be
better to drop and re-create the FT Catalog (yes, I know this will have a
MAJOR impact on your processing), and then let the final Master Merge
complete to get a compacted FT Catalog. Then re-test your FTS processing.
Note, you can do this on another server (possibly your staging server) via
the procedures and methods in KB article 240867 (Q240867). Also, did you run
UPDATE STATISTICS and are the SQL FTS query plans the same on your
production server as on your staging server?

BTW, what was the registry key/value to avoid the rebuild? or do you mean
to avoid the "Master Merge"?
Regards,
John



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SP3 FTI performance? René
7/22/2003 5:09:28 PM
Gents,

We just made transition to SP3 on our production server. After a lot of
hassle rebuilding the FT indexes, we now running a few days with this
set-up.

However, what we notice is that the FT query performance seems to have
slowed down. A process that took 10-12 minutes before, now takes about 20
minutes. Is this a what is to be expected? Nothing else changed but the
upgrade from SP2 + slammer protection to SP3.

Something we missed?

René

Re: SP3 FTI performance? René
7/22/2003 10:11:54 PM
Well, we tested extensively on a staging server, and everything seemed to
work well. The production server was something else... truly a messy
process.

Some of the larger tables started rebuilding (as expected), but stopped
after about a million records. System was REALLY slow by then, comaning to a
halt. Not your average 50.000 record master merge.. The population couldn't
be stopped, couldn't remove change tracking. Terminal Server couldn't
connect, EM manager was unable to make contact.
Decided on a reboot, which resulted that this large table to go into
recovery mode. Other then massive CPU and disk IO, no visible result.
Fortunately I found an excellent piece of advice from Hilary on setting the
registry to avoid the rebuild, I dumped the gathered files, and was finally
able to remove the FTI from the table.

After this mess I decided to rebuild the other two indexes, but the net
result is doubling in time it takes to process all the queries. Load on the
system doesn't matter, even at 3 AM when there is nother activity it just
takes and takes. As an aside, resource_usage is set to 4

Nothing else changed, although in the meanwhile we have rebuild the major
indexes, and reorganized the tempdb which gets used a lot. Nog discernable
differences in FTI, unfortunatly. Since the big 6M+ index hasn't been
rebuild, I'd even say we doing less then before. Nothing else changed - so I
am at a loss. I realize we're using FTS quit extensive, every half hour we
execute 3000 queries. Since that takes 20 minutes, it is getting out of hand

Ant thoughts?

René

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