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Dario,
Effectively, you want to turn of logging of logged (inserts) transaction in the database log. Correct? If so, then the answer for INSERTs is no. There will always be a certain level of logging of logged (insert, delete, update) in the database transaction log, however, you can minimize this via setting the database recovery model to "bulk insert" and then use BULK INSERT to insert data into your (large?) table to minimize the growth of the transaction log... Hope that helps, John -- SQL Full Text Search Blog http://spaces.msn.com/members/jtkane/ [quoted text, click to view] "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message news:egDf2MPGFHA.228@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > ok, > for example when I delete all records in a table without trace in sql server > log > I type: > > TRUNCATE TABLE MyTable > > My question is: > In this case? When I type INSERT INTO etc.. and I don't want to trace this > task in sql server log. What can I do this? > > thx. > > "Hilary Cotter" <hilary.cotter@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio > news:%23rWuSGPGFHA.2976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > >I take it you are talking about > > insert into tableName > > Select * from TableName2 > > > > if so, not > > -- > > Hilary Cotter > > Looking for a SQL Server replication book? > > http://www.nwsu.com/0974973602.html > > > > Looking for a FAQ on Indexing Services/SQL FTS > > http://www.indexserverfaq.com > > > > "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message > > news:uteqqhOGFHA.2032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > >> Hi, > >> Can I create an Insert Into Query without sql server registration log? > >> > >> Thx. > >> > >> > > > > > >
I take it you are talking about
insert into tableName Select * from TableName2 if so, not -- Hilary Cotter Looking for a SQL Server replication book? http://www.nwsu.com/0974973602.html Looking for a FAQ on Indexing Services/SQL FTS http://www.indexserverfaq.com [quoted text, click to view] "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message news:uteqqhOGFHA.2032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > Hi, > Can I create an Insert Into Query without sql server registration log? > > Thx. > >
I think you are talking about logging, i.e. these events are logged in the
transaction log. For instance a truncate can be rolled back if it is within the confines of a transaction, even with bulk logged recovery model. If you are asking about this command not showing up while using profiler you can't stop it from showing up there, unless your trace is pretty specific. -- Hilary Cotter Looking for a SQL Server replication book? http://www.nwsu.com/0974973602.html Looking for a FAQ on Indexing Services/SQL FTS http://www.indexserverfaq.com [quoted text, click to view] "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message news:egDf2MPGFHA.228@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > ok, > for example when I delete all records in a table without trace in sql server > log > I type: > > TRUNCATE TABLE MyTable > > My question is: > In this case? When I type INSERT INTO etc.. and I don't want to trace this > task in sql server log. What can I do this? > > thx. > > "Hilary Cotter" <hilary.cotter@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio > news:%23rWuSGPGFHA.2976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > >I take it you are talking about > > insert into tableName > > Select * from TableName2 > > > > if so, not > > -- > > Hilary Cotter > > Looking for a SQL Server replication book? > > http://www.nwsu.com/0974973602.html > > > > Looking for a FAQ on Indexing Services/SQL FTS > > http://www.indexserverfaq.com > > > > "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message > > news:uteqqhOGFHA.2032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > >> Hi, > >> Can I create an Insert Into Query without sql server registration log? > >> > >> Thx. > >> > >> > > > > > >
Hi,
Can I create an Insert Into Query without sql server registration log? Thx.
ok,
for example when I delete all records in a table without trace in sql server log I type: TRUNCATE TABLE MyTable My question is: In this case? When I type INSERT INTO etc.. and I don't want to trace this task in sql server log. What can I do this? thx. "Hilary Cotter" <hilary.cotter@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio news:%23rWuSGPGFHA.2976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] >I take it you are talking about > insert into tableName > Select * from TableName2 > > if so, not > -- > Hilary Cotter > Looking for a SQL Server replication book? > http://www.nwsu.com/0974973602.html > > Looking for a FAQ on Indexing Services/SQL FTS > http://www.indexserverfaq.com > > "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message > news:uteqqhOGFHA.2032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> Hi, >> Can I create an Insert Into Query without sql server registration log? >> >> Thx. >> >> > >
I see.
Then..... Can I type this? BULK INSERT INTO DestinationTable [...] FROM OriginTable WHERE [..] "John Kane" <jt-kane@comcast.net> ha scritto nel messaggio news:ui2kkiPGFHA.428@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Dario, > Effectively, you want to turn of logging of logged (inserts) transaction > in > the database log. Correct? > If so, then the answer for INSERTs is no. There will always be a certain > level of logging of logged (insert, delete, update) in the database > transaction log, however, you can minimize this via setting the database > recovery model to "bulk insert" and then use BULK INSERT to insert data > into > your (large?) table to minimize the growth of the transaction log... > > Hope that helps, > John > -- > SQL Full Text Search Blog > http://spaces.msn.com/members/jtkane/ > > > > > "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message > news:egDf2MPGFHA.228@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> ok, >> for example when I delete all records in a table without trace in sql > server >> log >> I type: >> >> TRUNCATE TABLE MyTable >> >> My question is: >> In this case? When I type INSERT INTO etc.. and I don't want to trace >> this >> task in sql server log. What can I do this? >> >> thx. >> >> "Hilary Cotter" <hilary.cotter@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio >> news:%23rWuSGPGFHA.2976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> >I take it you are talking about >> > insert into tableName >> > Select * from TableName2 >> > >> > if so, not >> > -- >> > Hilary Cotter >> > Looking for a SQL Server replication book? >> > http://www.nwsu.com/0974973602.html >> > >> > Looking for a FAQ on Indexing Services/SQL FTS >> > http://www.indexserverfaq.com >> > >> > "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message >> > news:uteqqhOGFHA.2032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> >> Hi, >> >> Can I create an Insert Into Query without sql server registration log? >> >> >> >> Thx. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Dario,
No, the BULK INSERT syntax only allows "BULK INSERT [ [ 'database_name'.] [ 'owner' ].] { 'table_name' FROM 'data_file' } [ WITH ... various options" - see SQL Server 2000 BOL title "Bulk Insert" for more details... However, what you can do is use "SELECT INTO" and select into a new table as SELECT INTO will only work with new and not existing tables, specifically, SELECT * INTO DestinationTable FROM OriginTable WHERE [..] You can also use BCP.exe and you may want to read "Using SQL Server 2000 Recovery Models" at http://www.devx.com/getHelpOn/10MinuteSolution/16532/1954?pf=true Hope that helps! John -- SQL Full Text Search Blog http://spaces.msn.com/members/jtkane/ [quoted text, click to view] "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message news:OgG06vPGFHA.2992@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > I see. > > Then..... Can I type this? > BULK INSERT INTO DestinationTable [...] > FROM OriginTable > WHERE [..] > > > > "John Kane" <jt-kane@comcast.net> ha scritto nel messaggio > news:ui2kkiPGFHA.428@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > > Dario, > > Effectively, you want to turn of logging of logged (inserts) transaction > > in > > the database log. Correct? > > If so, then the answer for INSERTs is no. There will always be a certain > > level of logging of logged (insert, delete, update) in the database > > transaction log, however, you can minimize this via setting the database > > recovery model to "bulk insert" and then use BULK INSERT to insert data > > into > > your (large?) table to minimize the growth of the transaction log... > > > > Hope that helps, > > John > > -- > > SQL Full Text Search Blog > > http://spaces.msn.com/members/jtkane/ > > > > > > > > > > "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message > > news:egDf2MPGFHA.228@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > >> ok, > >> for example when I delete all records in a table without trace in sql > > server > >> log > >> I type: > >> > >> TRUNCATE TABLE MyTable > >> > >> My question is: > >> In this case? When I type INSERT INTO etc.. and I don't want to trace > >> this > >> task in sql server log. What can I do this? > >> > >> thx. > >> > >> "Hilary Cotter" <hilary.cotter@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio > >> news:%23rWuSGPGFHA.2976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > >> >I take it you are talking about > >> > insert into tableName > >> > Select * from TableName2 > >> > > >> > if so, not > >> > -- > >> > Hilary Cotter > >> > Looking for a SQL Server replication book? > >> > http://www.nwsu.com/0974973602.html > >> > > >> > Looking for a FAQ on Indexing Services/SQL FTS > >> > http://www.indexserverfaq.com > >> > > >> > "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message > >> > news:uteqqhOGFHA.2032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > >> >> Hi, > >> >> Can I create an Insert Into Query without sql server registration log? > >> >> > >> >> Thx. > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
Dario,
Basically, you cannot turn off transaction logging in SQL Server 2000, you can only use the below methods (Bulk insert, SELECT INTO, BCP.exe) to minimally log transactions to the database transaction log. FYI, this question is often asked in other newsgroups, but the answers are the same there... Regards, John -- SQL Full Text Search Blog http://spaces.msn.com/members/jtkane/ [quoted text, click to view] "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message news:eySLK6XGFHA.1528@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > Is not there other way? > > > "John Kane" <jt-kane@comcast.net> ha scritto nel messaggio > news:%23plWErUGFHA.2932@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > > Dario, > > No, the BULK INSERT syntax only allows "BULK INSERT [ [ 'database_name'.] > > [ 'owner' ].] { 'table_name' FROM 'data_file' } [ WITH ... various > > options" - see SQL Server 2000 BOL title "Bulk Insert" for more details... > > > > However, what you can do is use "SELECT INTO" and select into a new table > > as > > SELECT INTO will only work with new and not existing tables, specifically, > > > > SELECT * INTO DestinationTable > > FROM OriginTable > > WHERE [..] > > > > You can also use BCP.exe and you may want to read "Using SQL Server 2000 > > Recovery Models" at > > http://www.devx.com/getHelpOn/10MinuteSolution/16532/1954?pf=true > > > > Hope that helps! > > John > > -- > > SQL Full Text Search Blog > > http://spaces.msn.com/members/jtkane/ > > > > > > "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message > > news:OgG06vPGFHA.2992@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > >> I see. > >> > >> Then..... Can I type this? > >> BULK INSERT INTO DestinationTable [...] > >> FROM OriginTable > >> WHERE [..] > >> > >> > >> > >> "John Kane" <jt-kane@comcast.net> ha scritto nel messaggio > >> news:ui2kkiPGFHA.428@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > >> > Dario, > >> > Effectively, you want to turn of logging of logged (inserts) > >> > transaction > >> > in > >> > the database log. Correct? > >> > If so, then the answer for INSERTs is no. There will always be a > >> > certain > >> > level of logging of logged (insert, delete, update) in the database > >> > transaction log, however, you can minimize this via setting the > >> > database > >> > recovery model to "bulk insert" and then use BULK INSERT to insert data > >> > into > >> > your (large?) table to minimize the growth of the transaction log... > >> > > >> > Hope that helps, > >> > John > >> > -- > >> > SQL Full Text Search Blog > >> > http://spaces.msn.com/members/jtkane/ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message > >> > news:egDf2MPGFHA.228@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > >> >> ok, > >> >> for example when I delete all records in a table without trace in sql > >> > server > >> >> log > >> >> I type: > >> >> > >> >> TRUNCATE TABLE MyTable > >> >> > >> >> My question is: > >> >> In this case? When I type INSERT INTO etc.. and I don't want to trace > >> >> this > >> >> task in sql server log. What can I do this? > >> >> > >> >> thx. > >> >> > >> >> "Hilary Cotter" <hilary.cotter@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio > >> >> news:%23rWuSGPGFHA.2976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > >> >> >I take it you are talking about > >> >> > insert into tableName > >> >> > Select * from TableName2 > >> >> > > >> >> > if so, not > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Hilary Cotter > >> >> > Looking for a SQL Server replication book? > >> >> > http://www.nwsu.com/0974973602.html > >> >> > > >> >> > Looking for a FAQ on Indexing Services/SQL FTS > >> >> > http://www.indexserverfaq.com > >> >> > > >> >> > "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message > >> >> > news:uteqqhOGFHA.2032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > >> >> >> Hi, > >> >> >> Can I create an Insert Into Query without sql server registration > > log? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Thx. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
Is not there other way?
"John Kane" <jt-kane@comcast.net> ha scritto nel messaggio news:%23plWErUGFHA.2932@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Dario, > No, the BULK INSERT syntax only allows "BULK INSERT [ [ 'database_name'.] > [ 'owner' ].] { 'table_name' FROM 'data_file' } [ WITH ... various > options" - see SQL Server 2000 BOL title "Bulk Insert" for more details... > > However, what you can do is use "SELECT INTO" and select into a new table > as > SELECT INTO will only work with new and not existing tables, specifically, > > SELECT * INTO DestinationTable > FROM OriginTable > WHERE [..] > > You can also use BCP.exe and you may want to read "Using SQL Server 2000 > Recovery Models" at > http://www.devx.com/getHelpOn/10MinuteSolution/16532/1954?pf=true > > Hope that helps! > John > -- > SQL Full Text Search Blog > http://spaces.msn.com/members/jtkane/ > > > "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message > news:OgG06vPGFHA.2992@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> I see. >> >> Then..... Can I type this? >> BULK INSERT INTO DestinationTable [...] >> FROM OriginTable >> WHERE [..] >> >> >> >> "John Kane" <jt-kane@comcast.net> ha scritto nel messaggio >> news:ui2kkiPGFHA.428@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> > Dario, >> > Effectively, you want to turn of logging of logged (inserts) >> > transaction >> > in >> > the database log. Correct? >> > If so, then the answer for INSERTs is no. There will always be a >> > certain >> > level of logging of logged (insert, delete, update) in the database >> > transaction log, however, you can minimize this via setting the >> > database >> > recovery model to "bulk insert" and then use BULK INSERT to insert data >> > into >> > your (large?) table to minimize the growth of the transaction log... >> > >> > Hope that helps, >> > John >> > -- >> > SQL Full Text Search Blog >> > http://spaces.msn.com/members/jtkane/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message >> > news:egDf2MPGFHA.228@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> >> ok, >> >> for example when I delete all records in a table without trace in sql >> > server >> >> log >> >> I type: >> >> >> >> TRUNCATE TABLE MyTable >> >> >> >> My question is: >> >> In this case? When I type INSERT INTO etc.. and I don't want to trace >> >> this >> >> task in sql server log. What can I do this? >> >> >> >> thx. >> >> >> >> "Hilary Cotter" <hilary.cotter@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio >> >> news:%23rWuSGPGFHA.2976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> >> >I take it you are talking about >> >> > insert into tableName >> >> > Select * from TableName2 >> >> > >> >> > if so, not >> >> > -- >> >> > Hilary Cotter >> >> > Looking for a SQL Server replication book? >> >> > http://www.nwsu.com/0974973602.html >> >> > >> >> > Looking for a FAQ on Indexing Services/SQL FTS >> >> > http://www.indexserverfaq.com >> >> > >> >> > "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message >> >> > news:uteqqhOGFHA.2032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> Can I create an Insert Into Query without sql server registration > log? >> >> >> >> >> >> Thx. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Thank you.
:-) "John Kane" <jt-kane@comcast.net> ha scritto nel messaggio news:ufNSxPcGFHA.2280@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Dario, > Basically, you cannot turn off transaction logging in SQL Server 2000, you > can only use the below methods (Bulk insert, SELECT INTO, BCP.exe) to > minimally log transactions to the database transaction log. FYI, this > question is often asked in other newsgroups, but the answers are the same > there... > > Regards, > John > -- > SQL Full Text Search Blog > http://spaces.msn.com/members/jtkane/ > > > > "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message > news:eySLK6XGFHA.1528@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> Is not there other way? >> >> >> "John Kane" <jt-kane@comcast.net> ha scritto nel messaggio >> news:%23plWErUGFHA.2932@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> > Dario, >> > No, the BULK INSERT syntax only allows "BULK INSERT [ [ > 'database_name'.] >> > [ 'owner' ].] { 'table_name' FROM 'data_file' } [ WITH ... various >> > options" - see SQL Server 2000 BOL title "Bulk Insert" for more > details... >> > >> > However, what you can do is use "SELECT INTO" and select into a new > table >> > as >> > SELECT INTO will only work with new and not existing tables, > specifically, >> > >> > SELECT * INTO DestinationTable >> > FROM OriginTable >> > WHERE [..] >> > >> > You can also use BCP.exe and you may want to read "Using SQL Server >> > 2000 >> > Recovery Models" at >> > http://www.devx.com/getHelpOn/10MinuteSolution/16532/1954?pf=true >> > >> > Hope that helps! >> > John >> > -- >> > SQL Full Text Search Blog >> > http://spaces.msn.com/members/jtkane/ >> > >> > >> > "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message >> > news:OgG06vPGFHA.2992@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> >> I see. >> >> >> >> Then..... Can I type this? >> >> BULK INSERT INTO DestinationTable [...] >> >> FROM OriginTable >> >> WHERE [..] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "John Kane" <jt-kane@comcast.net> ha scritto nel messaggio >> >> news:ui2kkiPGFHA.428@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> >> > Dario, >> >> > Effectively, you want to turn of logging of logged (inserts) >> >> > transaction >> >> > in >> >> > the database log. Correct? >> >> > If so, then the answer for INSERTs is no. There will always be a >> >> > certain >> >> > level of logging of logged (insert, delete, update) in the database >> >> > transaction log, however, you can minimize this via setting the >> >> > database >> >> > recovery model to "bulk insert" and then use BULK INSERT to insert > data >> >> > into >> >> > your (large?) table to minimize the growth of the transaction log... >> >> > >> >> > Hope that helps, >> >> > John >> >> > -- >> >> > SQL Full Text Search Blog >> >> > http://spaces.msn.com/members/jtkane/ >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message >> >> > news:egDf2MPGFHA.228@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> >> >> ok, >> >> >> for example when I delete all records in a table without trace in > sql >> >> > server >> >> >> log >> >> >> I type: >> >> >> >> >> >> TRUNCATE TABLE MyTable >> >> >> >> >> >> My question is: >> >> >> In this case? When I type INSERT INTO etc.. and I don't want to > trace >> >> >> this >> >> >> task in sql server log. What can I do this? >> >> >> >> >> >> thx. >> >> >> >> >> >> "Hilary Cotter" <hilary.cotter@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio >> >> >> news:%23rWuSGPGFHA.2976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> >> >> >I take it you are talking about >> >> >> > insert into tableName >> >> >> > Select * from TableName2 >> >> >> > >> >> >> > if so, not >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Hilary Cotter >> >> >> > Looking for a SQL Server replication book? >> >> >> > http://www.nwsu.com/0974973602.html >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Looking for a FAQ on Indexing Services/SQL FTS >> >> >> > http://www.indexserverfaq.com >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Dario Concilio [MCP]" <dco@experta-spa.com> wrote in message >> >> >> > news:uteqqhOGFHA.2032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Can I create an Insert Into Query without sql server >> >> >> >> registration >> > log? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thx. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
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