Balaji Ramachandran wrote:
> Hi Shyam & Joe,
>
> Thanks for your replies.
>
> We don't want to install any client components in the client machine.
>
> We want to go for No-touch deployment. (With this approach, you copy the
> files to a Web server, and the .NET Framework will automatically download the
> application and its dependent assemblies to the client when the user clicks a
> link. more info can be found in
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnpag/html/scag-ch07.asp?frame=true)
>
> So installing any application in the client part is ruled out.
>
> As the notification subscription is going to be a part of the application,
> our clients doesn't agree to install any components for this notification
> subscription module.
>
> As the other modules uses rich GUI, it requires thick client. Hence using
> ASP.Net solution for Notification subscription alone is also ruled out.
>
> We need to design a solution with this constraints.
> 1.Should support no-touch deployment
> 2.Should use thick client.
> 3.Should be able to invoke notification subscriptions from all client
> machines.
> 4.No seperate installation is allowed in the client machine.
>
> Help us out.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> R.Balaji
>
>
>
>
> "Shyam Pather [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>
>>Joe's reply is correct. I just want to add one thing in answer to Balaji's
>>question about not wanting to use ASP.NET. All of the NS APIs are accessible
>>through COM-interop. So you can instantiate the NSInstance, NSApplication,
>>Subscriber, Subscription etc. in any application that can create COM
>>objects. So you can use ASP (not ASP.NET) if you like. The Books Online
>>describes how to do this.
>>Thanks
>>-shyam
>>
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>>"Joe Webb" <joew@webbtechsolutions.com> wrote in message
>>news:OjzUbUVMFHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>You don't need to install everything on the client computers, just the
>>>client components.
>>>
>>>Here's an excerpt from BOL that explains everything.
>>>
>>>
>>>Installing Client Components
>>>Client components include the Notification Services API and the
>>>NSControl commands. These components are required for:
>>>
>>>* Subscription management applications. These applications use the
>>>Notification Services API to interact with Notification Services
>>>subscriber and subscription data; you must use the NSControl commands to
>>>register the instance on the server.
>>>
>>>* Independent event providers use the Notification Services API to
>>>submit events to the application databases; you must use the NSControl
>>>commands to register the instance on the server.
>>>* Remote administration servers must have the NSControl commands so you
>>>can administer instances and applications.
>>>
>>>
>>>The bulk event submission subcomponent, which supports use of the
>>>Microsoft SQLXML bulk loader, is used for submitting XML data to SQL
>>>Server. If your independent event provider or subscription management
>>>application submits XML data, you must install this component. However,
>>>installing this component requires the SQL Server client tools to be
>>>installed. Because the client tools can be used to access databases, it
>>>is best not to install them unless necessary.
>>>
>>>
>>>*Note* All of the client components are included in the engine
>>>components. If you have already installed the engine components on the
>>>server, you do not need to install the client components.
>>>
>>>To install the client components
>>>
>>>1. Ensure that the client component prerequisite software is installed.
>>>For more information, see Hardware and Software Requirements.
>>>
>>>2. Run Notification Services Setup.
>>>
>>>3. On the Custom Setup page, do the following:
>>>* Click Client Components, and then select This feature will be
>>>installed on local hard drive.
>>>
>>>* If an application requires the SQLXML bulk loader component, click
>>>Bulk Event Submission, and then select This feature will be installed on
>>>local hard drive.
>>>
>>>* Click each of the other components, and then select This feature will
>>>not be available.
>>>
>>>4. On the Ready to Install the Program page, click Install.
>>>
>>>
>>>After you've installed the NS client components, you can use NSControl
>>>on the client computer to register the server.
>>>
>>>For the full document, look up "installing Notification Services
>>>components" in BOL. If you have more questions after reading this, feel
>>>free to post again.
>>>
>>>
>>>HTH...
>>>Joe Webb
>>>SQL Server MVP
>>>
>>>~~~
>>>Get up to speed quickly with SQLNS
>>>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0972688811
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Balaji Ramachandran wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Joe,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for your reply.
>>>>
>>>>As NSControl is installed alone with SQL server notification services,
>>
>>Does
>>
>>>>it means that all client machines who want to access the Notification
>>>>Subscription Mgmt Services needs to install the SQL notification
>>
>>services?
>>
>>>>How does the client machines which doesn't have notification services
>>>>installed access the Notification subscription management ?
>>>>
>>>>In our scenario, we need to create subscription management application
>>>>(thick client) and this will be deployed in all client machines.
>>>>
>>>>We don't want to install SQL server notification services in all client
>>>>machines.
>>>>
>>>>We don't to use the ASP.net based subscription management application
>>
>>also.
>>
>>>>Can you recomment any better solution?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>R.Balaji
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Joe Webb" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>For each client machine, you'll need to run "NSControl register ...".
>>>>>Doing so will allow you to specify the server. Since these will be
>>>>>subscriber app clients only, do not specify the -service parameter.
>>>>>
>>>>>For more information look up "NSControl Register" in BOL.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>HTH...
>>>>>Joe Webb
>>>>>SQL Server MVP
>>>>>
>>>>>~~~
>>>>>Get up to speed quickly with SQLNS
>>>>>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0972688811
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>