IDC Linux study -- sql server programming

sql server programming : IDC Linux study

RayMetz100
2/11/2004 9:51:05 PM

I'm a SQL Server DBA and more skilled with SQL Server than any other database platform. I wish Microsoft all the best with their product, but I feel that the IDC study they have posted at http://www.microsoft.com/sql/evaluation/compare/Linuxtco.asp is a joke. First, they don't name the Linux RDBMS. From the pricing and "leading" description, I'm assuming they are talking about Oracle. "Sponsored by Microsoft" at the top says it all. The writer spins most of it as pro Microsoft. They say that "Linux professionals, by and large, are repurposed Unix professionals" and then compare them to Microsoft SQL Server counterparts. Just replace "Linux professionals" with Oracle professionals and you'll see how messed up that statement is. You wouldn't try to develop a SQL application with repurposed Windows professionals, just as I'm sure it would be futile to repurpose unix professionals as Oracle developers. By replacing the word Oracle with Linux, they almost get away with it though.

Louis Davidson
2/12/2004 12:16:02 AM

I think they should post only articles that are against themselves on their
web page myself. You must not have a marketing department where you work,
otherwise you would understand this kind of thing. I doubt it fully
qualifies as joke, but every company does comparisons of their products with
the other companies product and spins it their own way.

The fact that the writer only spun most of it as pro Microsoft shows
constraint (I didn't read it, but I will take your word for it.) Some of
the dot com marketeers would have had Linux killing several species of
spotted owls.

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database platform. I wish Microsoft all the best with their product, but I
feel that the IDC study they have posted at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/evaluation/compare/Linuxtco.asp is a joke.
First, they don't name the Linux RDBMS. From the pricing and "leading"
description, I'm assuming they are talking about Oracle. "Sponsored by
Microsoft" at the top says it all. The writer spins most of it as pro
Microsoft. They say that "Linux professionals, by and large, are repurposed
Unix professionals" and then compare them to Microsoft SQL Server
counterparts. Just replace "Linux professionals" with Oracle professionals
and you'll see how messed up that statement is. You wouldn't try to develop
a SQL application with repurposed Windows professionals, just as I'm sure it
would be futile to repurpose unix professionals as Oracle developers. By
replacing the word Oracle with Linux, they almost get away with it though.
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Jacco Schalkwijk
2/12/2004 11:52:57 AM

Oracle is expensive, Oracle people are expensive, and there are quite a few
things that come for free with SQL Server that are quite expensive extras
with Oracle (probably a few the other way around as well, although then
you'd have to buy 3rd party software).

At the moment I'm involved in a project that exchanges data between our SQL
Server database and Oracle financials. When I said that we didn't want to
use text files for data exchange (a favorite for Unix people) but wanted to
write to the respective databases directly, even the people from Oracle
Consulting I was talking with were quick to agree that we should have SQL
Server access the Oracle database, as the Oracle OLEDB driver comes free
with SQL Server, but to go from Oracle to SQL server you need a gateway, and
the last time I looked that was $15,000.

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Andrew John
2/12/2004 10:33:48 PM

Ray,

I found it hilarious reading between the lines, but I'll respect their copyright, by not quoting the best
passages. The methodology is certainly, um "interesting", it's the deadpan way they describe it that
makes it hard to tell if the irony is intentional.

Working for a big multinational myself, I'd have to agree with Louis Davidson, that it is not the
worst effort of it's type that I've seen. The worst ones are always labelled "**** proprietory. Internal use only".
I'd agree the database certainly sounds like Oracle, and on TCO, I would think the comparison
is understated if anything, but that's hardly Linux's fault. It's a dog to use on Windows too.

Regards
AJ

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with their product, but I feel that the IDC study they have posted at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/evaluation/compare/Linuxtco.asp is a joke. First, they don't name the Linux RDBMS. From
the pricing and "leading" description, I'm assuming they are talking about Oracle. "Sponsored by Microsoft" at the top
says it all. The writer spins most of it as pro Microsoft. They say that "Linux professionals, by and large, are
repurposed Unix professionals" and then compare them to Microsoft SQL Server counterparts. Just replace "Linux
professionals" with Oracle professionals and you'll see how messed up that statement is. You wouldn't try to develop a
SQL application with repurposed Windows professionals, just as I'm sure it would be futile to repurpose unix
professionals as Oracle developers. By replacing the word Oracle with Linux, they almost get away with it though.
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