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Reducing Spam Associated with Posting to Newsgroups



Reducing Spam Associated with Posting to Newsgroups Stephen Dybing [MSFT]
10/14/2003 3:19:10 PM
sql server replication: Due to a recent increase in spam sent to posters in newsgroups, Microsoft
advises that newsgroup participants should consider avoiding posting to
newsgroups using their real email address. Microsoft is also committed to
continuing to address the issue of spam from a technological perspective.

To help avoid receiving unwanted messages (spam) in your regular e-mail
account, you may not want to include your regular e-mail address when you
post a question or reply to a post in a discussion group. Instead you may
want to do one of the following:

1) Use a modified e-mail address: Use a different version of your e-mail
address that others will understand, but that spam tools can't automatically
pick up. For example, if your actual e-mail address is
"anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com", consider using a modified e-mail
address such as: "anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com.invalid",
"anonymous@REMOVE_CAPS_AND_INVALIDdiscussions.microsoft.com.invalid,
"anonymous<at>discussion.microsoft.com", or
"anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com.NO_SPAM." In this case, the spam tools
will send mail to an invalid e-mail address, and others will know to exclude
the "(removethis)" when they send you e-mail. When you post a question or
reply to a discussion group, just enter your modified e-mail address in the
appropriate box.

2) Use a secondary e-mail account: Set up or use an e-mail account, such as
a Hotmail account, that is separate from your primary account for posting to
discussion groups. When you post a question or reply to a discussion group,
use your Hotmail account as your e-mail address.

Sincerely,
Stephen Dybing

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Please reply to the newsgroups only, thanks.

Re: Reducing Spam Associated with Posting to Newsgroups Stephen Dybing [MSFT]
10/15/2003 7:15:16 AM
There are free tools available out there to harvest email addresses from
USENET newsgroup postings, there's nothing special about our newsgroups
here. As long as those tools exist and you sign your real name to posts,
you're going to get spammed. I suspect that it may be increasing because of
the USA national do-not-call registry that's being implemented. I'd guess
that the industry is looking for another medium. As far as the spam posts in
the newsgroups themselves, we are working hard to get filters in place and
we're getting rid of them reactively as soon as we see them.

As far as why does it exist, you're asking the wrong people. :-) My guess
can only be that it is working well enough to make them money, and it is
basically free for them after all.

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Hope this helps,
Stephen Dybing

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Please reply to the newsgroups only, thanks.
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Re: Reducing Spam Associated with Posting to Newsgroups Ron McNulty
10/15/2003 6:59:49 PM
Hi Stephen

You are making valid points, but we need a better answer to spam than making
everyone anonymous. I have always used my real email, listed my name in the
phone book and generally behaved as a reasonable person (I think) on
newsgroups.

In reply I have had much useful info (thanks guys) at the cost of a lot of
unwanted spam. The record was a week when I was offered a total of 30 feet
of penis enlargement. The mind boggles..

Also, I suspect that your "NO SPAM" etc suggestions are already being
programmed into the spam merchants' tools!

Fortunately the ISPs in NZ are busy installing spam filters. These work by
identifying spamming sites (manually) as well as searching message content.
I think that may be a better answer than hiding our identities.

Finally, why does spam persist? Are people out there actually buying the
advertised rubbish?

Regards

Ron

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