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sql server reporting services : Notes Regarding BIDS
I've been working with SSRS 2005 for the past couple of weeks and I have a
question for the other more experienced SSRS users out there. Let me first say that I really enjoy application and web development in VS.Net 2005. I think it's a great evolution to VS.Net 2003. I also enjoy SQL Server immensely and am a general fan (though not fan-boy) of MS. Now with that in mind, has anyone else notices the the BIDS tool in VS is sub-par. I went so far as to use the phrase "steaming pile" when describing it to a friend over IM after it had destroyed about 45mins worth of work and then locked up, because I dared use ctrl z to undo a positioning issue. This thing is slow, it has locked up on me about once a day. I've been doing application development on pretty large projects for months now and the only time it locks up is when I'm working with a Bids project. The kicker is that I only have two reports. The dialogs and general interface act in bizarre ways. And can anybody tell me, why, when I look at the code portion (xml) of the RDL file it looks as if it's being rendered in Notepad? Black and white. For the love, it's VS.Net 2005. It has color coding and intellisense for /everything/. It does everything in xml. What's wrong with Bids? Who's responsible? Reporting Services is supposed to be a BFD in SS 2005. So my question is this. Is it just me? Do I have a bad installation? Have I missed a key configuration parameter (like Sucks=true)? Is every other report designer in the word this bad? What the deal? /End Rant/
I would be curious to know the limitations of BIDS and from your post they
seem considerable. The only project type from what I understand is BI ... so where do you test your custom code? Cant do it there. What about functions, custom assemblies and the like? can those even be used in BIDS? I keep reading where you dont need VS 2005 because MS2005 comes with BIDS but I am not sold that it is a fully functional replacement for VS and the fact that Microsoft tells people they dont need VS2005 isnt helping! [quoted text, click to view] "AngryGeoff" wrote:
> I've been working with SSRS 2005 for the past couple of weeks and I have a > question for the other more experienced SSRS users out there. > Let me first say that I really enjoy application and web development in > VS.Net 2005. I think it's a great evolution to VS.Net 2003. I also enjoy SQL > Server immensely and am a general fan (though not fan-boy) of MS. > Now with that in mind, has anyone else notices the the BIDS tool in VS is > sub-par. I went so far as to use the phrase "steaming pile" when describing > it to a friend over IM after it had destroyed about 45mins worth of work and > then locked up, because I dared use ctrl z to undo a positioning issue. > This thing is slow, it has locked up on me about once a day. I've been doing > application development on pretty large projects for months now and the only > time it locks up is when I'm working with a Bids project. The kicker is that > I only have two reports. > The dialogs and general interface act in bizarre ways. And can anybody tell > me, why, when I look at the code portion (xml) of the RDL file it looks as if > it's being rendered in Notepad? Black and white. For the love, it's VS.Net > 2005. It has color coding and intellisense for /everything/. It does > everything in xml. What's wrong with Bids? Who's responsible? Reporting > Services is supposed to be a BFD in SS 2005. > So my question is this. Is it just me? Do I have a bad installation? Have I > missed a key configuration parameter (like Sucks=true)? Is every other report > designer in the word this bad? What the deal? > > /End Rant/
First, I work extensively in RS 2005 (obviously since I am a MVP). Although
I did have a few times that I lost work with RS 2000 I have not yet lost work with RS 2005. Although you can go into the XML, except for extremely rare cases, you shouldn't. The fact that this guy who has two reports is going into the XML means to me that he is either doing something very unusual that requires doing this (in which case I would like to know what it is) OR he is trying to do things in an incorrect/non-standard way. Also, as I said elsewhere, I think your attitude is a bit of a stretch. You seem outraged that the report designer that now comes with a version of VS is not a full replacement for VS. It comes free. You cannot create assemblies. It is not VB.Net, it is not C#. It doesn't create web pages either. So yes, let's be clear. It is not a replacement for VS 2005 and I have never said it was (or anyone else). As far as being a POS as the below person seems to think is just not true. If it was happening to lots of people I guarantee you I would see more posts about it. -- Bruce Loehle-Conger MVP SQL Server Reporting Services [quoted text, click to view] "MJT" <MJT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:DEF9A799-7CEA-4D0D-A263-EE399C02470B@microsoft.com... >I would be curious to know the limitations of BIDS and from your post they > seem considerable. The only project type from what I understand is BI ... > so > where do you test your custom code? Cant do it there. What about > functions, > custom assemblies and the like? can those even be used in BIDS? I keep > reading where you dont need VS 2005 because MS2005 comes with BIDS but I > am > not sold that it is a fully functional replacement for VS and the fact > that > Microsoft tells people they dont need VS2005 isnt helping! > > "AngryGeoff" wrote: > >> I've been working with SSRS 2005 for the past couple of weeks and I have >> a >> question for the other more experienced SSRS users out there. >> Let me first say that I really enjoy application and web development in >> VS.Net 2005. I think it's a great evolution to VS.Net 2003. I also enjoy >> SQL >> Server immensely and am a general fan (though not fan-boy) of MS. >> Now with that in mind, has anyone else notices the the BIDS tool in VS is >> sub-par. I went so far as to use the phrase "steaming pile" when >> describing >> it to a friend over IM after it had destroyed about 45mins worth of work >> and >> then locked up, because I dared use ctrl z to undo a positioning issue. >> This thing is slow, it has locked up on me about once a day. I've been >> doing >> application development on pretty large projects for months now and the >> only >> time it locks up is when I'm working with a Bids project. The kicker is >> that >> I only have two reports. >> The dialogs and general interface act in bizarre ways. And can anybody >> tell >> me, why, when I look at the code portion (xml) of the RDL file it looks >> as if >> it's being rendered in Notepad? Black and white. For the love, it's >> VS.Net >> 2005. It has color coding and intellisense for /everything/. It does >> everything in xml. What's wrong with Bids? Who's responsible? Reporting >> Services is supposed to be a BFD in SS 2005. >> So my question is this. Is it just me? Do I have a bad installation? Have >> I >> missed a key configuration parameter (like Sucks=true)? Is every other >> report >> designer in the word this bad? What the deal? >> >> /End Rant/ >> Geoff
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