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I've been encouraged by a few users of a freeware app I've written to submit it to this Mobile2Market competition. I'm going over the requirements for logo certification a bit, and would like a few clarifications. First the easy one: 1. Since my app is mainly in the CF, the exemptions section seems to inficate that: - tooltips on the command bar are not needed. - it is ok for CF apps to have a different help mechanism and display a way for the user to invoke this help. Regarding the help, I simply CreateProcess an iexplore instance to disaply a help.html file. Would this be allowable? 2. Fonts. I allow the user to configure the fonts the application uses when drawing info to the screen. The docs state that when displayed, these options must appear in this order, left to right: style, font, font size, bold, italic, underline. In my case, I have several comboboxes on the left side of my form. One combobox for the font, and under it, one for font size. On the other right side of my form, I have the checkboxes for Bold, Italic, Underline, from top to bottom. It follows the "flavor" of the requirement but is not left to right. Is this ok? There's no logical way to make these options go left to right. 3. Clarification: when I show a dialog box for settings, I must keep the application name as the form's text property? (IE, myform.text = <app name>). It seems fairly strict against truncating the text, so I suppost "<app name>: Fonts" would likely be out. 4. Finally, is there a way to execute code should the app be uninstalled? I have an option that allows the app to run for certain events (CeRunAppAtEvent) and, should the user elect this option, but then uninstall the app, I'm uncertain how this should get cleaned up. Right now I simply state, in the help, to make sure these options are disabled before uninstalling, but I'm not sure if this would pass logo certification. Thanks for reading, I'd appreciate some qualified input! Regards, Brian
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[quoted text, click to view] "Brian H" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:%238FStoyMEHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > Hi all, > > I've been encouraged by a few users of a freeware app I've written to > submit > it to this Mobile2Market competition. I'm going over the requirements for > logo certification a bit, and would like a few clarifications. First the > easy one: > > 1. Since my app is mainly in the CF, the exemptions section seems to > inficate that: > - tooltips on the command bar are not needed. > - it is ok for CF apps to have a different help mechanism and display a > way > for the user to invoke this help. > > Regarding the help, I simply CreateProcess an iexplore instance to disaply > a > help.html file. Would this be allowable? > The CF exemptions would indicate yes. However you could still use the Windows CE peghelp format for your help, but just supply your own way of invoking it with CreateProcess and the peghelp.exe viewer. You can then add your help into the master contents list too. See http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnppc2k2/html/WinCEHelp.asp For more details [quoted text, click to view] > 2. Fonts. I allow the user to configure the fonts the application uses > when > drawing info to the screen. The docs state that when displayed, these > options must appear in this order, left to right: style, font, font size, > bold, italic, underline. > > In my case, I have several comboboxes on the left side of my form. One > combobox for the font, and under it, one for font size. On the other > right > side of my form, I have the checkboxes for Bold, Italic, Underline, from > top > to bottom. It follows the "flavor" of the requirement but is not left to > right. Is this ok? There's no logical way to make these options go left > to > right. > Looking at the Font dialog in Pocket Word, the options are arranged Font, Size and the style flags are arranged vertically below. Perhaps you could follow the format used there... [quoted text, click to view] > 3. Clarification: when I show a dialog box for settings, I must keep the > application name as the form's text property? (IE, myform.text = <app > name>). It seems fairly strict against truncating the text, so I suppost > "<app name>: Fonts" would likely be out. > If you want to provide a sub-heading, you should draw it on the form itself and underline it with a single pixel line across the entire screen width (see other settings dialogs for an example). The SDK contains the exact specs for font, color and pixel dimensions required. [quoted text, click to view] > 4. Finally, is there a way to execute code should the app be uninstalled? > I have an option that allows the app to run for certain events > (CeRunAppAtEvent) and, should the user elect this option, but then > uninstall > the app, I'm uncertain how this should get cleaned up. Right now I simply > state, in the help, to make sure these options are disabled before > uninstalling, but I'm not sure if this would pass logo certification. > The way to do this would be to write a custom setup dll to be placed in your cab files. See http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dv_evtuv/html/etgrfsetupdllfilesfordevices.asp You can place code in the Uninstall_Init and Uninstall_Exit to perform cleanup operations when your ap is uninstalled. This setup.dll must be written in native code as it must expose specific functions. ce_setup.h defines the function prototypes required. Peter -- Peter Foot Windows Embedded MVP OpenNETCF.org Senior Advisor www.inthehand.com | www.opennetcf.org
Peter, can you provide an example of this that I can look at?
"If you want to provide a sub-heading, you should draw it on the form itself and underline it with a single pixel line across the entire screen width (see other settings dialogs for an example). The SDK contains the exact specs for font, color and pixel dimensions required." [quoted text, click to view] "Peter Foot [MVP]" <feedback@nospam-inthehand.com> wrote in message news:Ob7RNszMEHA.1608@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > Answers inline:- > > "Brian H" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:%238FStoyMEHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > > Hi all, > > > > I've been encouraged by a few users of a freeware app I've written to > > submit > > it to this Mobile2Market competition. I'm going over the requirements for > > logo certification a bit, and would like a few clarifications. First the > > easy one: > > > > 1. Since my app is mainly in the CF, the exemptions section seems to > > inficate that: > > - tooltips on the command bar are not needed. > > - it is ok for CF apps to have a different help mechanism and display a > > way > > for the user to invoke this help. > > > > Regarding the help, I simply CreateProcess an iexplore instance to disaply > > a > > help.html file. Would this be allowable? > > > > The CF exemptions would indicate yes. However you could still use the > Windows CE peghelp format for your help, but just supply your own way of > invoking it with CreateProcess and the peghelp.exe viewer. You can then add > your help into the master contents list too. See > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnppc2k2/html/WinCEHelp.asp > For more details > > > 2. Fonts. I allow the user to configure the fonts the application uses > > when > > drawing info to the screen. The docs state that when displayed, these > > options must appear in this order, left to right: style, font, font size, > > bold, italic, underline. > > > > In my case, I have several comboboxes on the left side of my form. One > > combobox for the font, and under it, one for font size. On the other > > right > > side of my form, I have the checkboxes for Bold, Italic, Underline, from > > top > > to bottom. It follows the "flavor" of the requirement but is not left to > > right. Is this ok? There's no logical way to make these options go left > > to > > right. > > > > Looking at the Font dialog in Pocket Word, the options are arranged Font, > Size and the style flags are arranged vertically below. Perhaps you could > follow the format used there... > > > 3. Clarification: when I show a dialog box for settings, I must keep the > > application name as the form's text property? (IE, myform.text = <app > > name>). It seems fairly strict against truncating the text, so I suppost > > "<app name>: Fonts" would likely be out. > > > > If you want to provide a sub-heading, you should draw it on the form itself > and underline it with a single pixel line across the entire screen width > (see other settings dialogs for an example). The SDK contains the exact > specs for font, color and pixel dimensions required. > > > 4. Finally, is there a way to execute code should the app be uninstalled? > > I have an option that allows the app to run for certain events > > (CeRunAppAtEvent) and, should the user elect this option, but then > > uninstall > > the app, I'm uncertain how this should get cleaned up. Right now I simply > > state, in the help, to make sure these options are disabled before > > uninstalling, but I'm not sure if this would pass logo certification. > > > > The way to do this would be to write a custom setup dll to be placed in your > cab files. See > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dv_evtuv/html/etgrfsetupdllfilesfordevices.asp > > You can place code in the Uninstall_Init and Uninstall_Exit to perform > cleanup operations when your ap is uninstalled. This setup.dll must be > written in native code as it must expose specific functions. ce_setup.h > defines the function prototypes required. > > Peter > > -- > Peter Foot > Windows Embedded MVP > OpenNETCF.org Senior Advisor > www.inthehand.com | www.opennetcf.org > >
Thanks Peter,
Great info. Regarding the clean-up of user settings, I'm going to start work on that because, frankly, it's cleanest way to do things. However, do you know if it's required for certification? If it requires native code in this fashion, I'd guess not, but I'm not entirely sure. I'd prefer to add this functionality later. Thanks again, Brian [quoted text, click to view] "Peter Foot [MVP]" <feedback@nospam-inthehand.com> wrote in message news:Ob7RNszMEHA.1608@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > Answers inline:- > > "Brian H" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:%238FStoyMEHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > > Hi all, > > > > I've been encouraged by a few users of a freeware app I've written to > > submit > > it to this Mobile2Market competition. I'm going over the requirements for > > logo certification a bit, and would like a few clarifications. First the > > easy one: > > > > 1. Since my app is mainly in the CF, the exemptions section seems to > > inficate that: > > - tooltips on the command bar are not needed. > > - it is ok for CF apps to have a different help mechanism and display a > > way > > for the user to invoke this help. > > > > Regarding the help, I simply CreateProcess an iexplore instance to disaply > > a > > help.html file. Would this be allowable? > > > > The CF exemptions would indicate yes. However you could still use the > Windows CE peghelp format for your help, but just supply your own way of > invoking it with CreateProcess and the peghelp.exe viewer. You can then add > your help into the master contents list too. See > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnppc2k2/html/WinCEHelp.asp > For more details > > > 2. Fonts. I allow the user to configure the fonts the application uses > > when > > drawing info to the screen. The docs state that when displayed, these > > options must appear in this order, left to right: style, font, font size, > > bold, italic, underline. > > > > In my case, I have several comboboxes on the left side of my form. One > > combobox for the font, and under it, one for font size. On the other > > right > > side of my form, I have the checkboxes for Bold, Italic, Underline, from > > top > > to bottom. It follows the "flavor" of the requirement but is not left to > > right. Is this ok? There's no logical way to make these options go left > > to > > right. > > > > Looking at the Font dialog in Pocket Word, the options are arranged Font, > Size and the style flags are arranged vertically below. Perhaps you could > follow the format used there... > > > 3. Clarification: when I show a dialog box for settings, I must keep the > > application name as the form's text property? (IE, myform.text = <app > > name>). It seems fairly strict against truncating the text, so I suppost > > "<app name>: Fonts" would likely be out. > > > > If you want to provide a sub-heading, you should draw it on the form itself > and underline it with a single pixel line across the entire screen width > (see other settings dialogs for an example). The SDK contains the exact > specs for font, color and pixel dimensions required. > > > 4. Finally, is there a way to execute code should the app be uninstalled? > > I have an option that allows the app to run for certain events > > (CeRunAppAtEvent) and, should the user elect this option, but then > > uninstall > > the app, I'm uncertain how this should get cleaned up. Right now I simply > > state, in the help, to make sure these options are disabled before > > uninstalling, but I'm not sure if this would pass logo certification. > > > > The way to do this would be to write a custom setup dll to be placed in your > cab files. See > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dv_evtuv/html/etgrfsetupdllfilesfordevices.asp > > You can place code in the Uninstall_Init and Uninstall_Exit to perform > cleanup operations when your ap is uninstalled. This setup.dll must be > written in native code as it must expose specific functions. ce_setup.h > defines the function prototypes required. > > Peter > > -- > Peter Foot > Windows Embedded MVP > OpenNETCF.org Senior Advisor > www.inthehand.com | www.opennetcf.org > >
With pixels at a premium, is there a reason this method is preferred over
frmMain.text? [quoted text, click to view] "Peter Foot [MVP]" <feedback@nospam-inthehand.com> wrote in message news:uHc%23EA3MEHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > The online SDK has an example here with the dimensions:- > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/ui_guide_ppc/htm/Text_Header_PPC.asp > > You can see this in practise on any of the settings dialogs e.g. Start > > Settings > Today. > > Peter > > -- > Peter Foot > Windows Embedded MVP > OpenNETCF.org Senior Advisor > www.inthehand.com | www.opennetcf.org > > "Tommy Malone" <tommy@angula.net> wrote in message > news:uVKtg52MEHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > > Peter, can you provide an example of this that I can look at? > > > > "If you want to provide a sub-heading, you should draw it on the form > > itself > > and underline it with a single pixel line across the entire screen width > > (see other settings dialogs for an example). The SDK contains the exact > > specs for font, color and pixel dimensions required." > > > > > > "Peter Foot [MVP]" <feedback@nospam-inthehand.com> wrote in message > > news:Ob7RNszMEHA.1608@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > >> Answers inline:- > >> > >> "Brian H" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message > >> news:%238FStoyMEHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > >> > Hi all, > >> > > >> > I've been encouraged by a few users of a freeware app I've written to > >> > submit > >> > it to this Mobile2Market competition. I'm going over the requirements > > for > >> > logo certification a bit, and would like a few clarifications. First > > the > >> > easy one: > >> > > >> > 1. Since my app is mainly in the CF, the exemptions section seems to > >> > inficate that: > >> > - tooltips on the command bar are not needed. > >> > - it is ok for CF apps to have a different help mechanism and display a > >> > way > >> > for the user to invoke this help. > >> > > >> > Regarding the help, I simply CreateProcess an iexplore instance to > > disaply > >> > a > >> > help.html file. Would this be allowable? > >> > > >> > >> The CF exemptions would indicate yes. However you could still use the > >> Windows CE peghelp format for your help, but just supply your own way of > >> invoking it with CreateProcess and the peghelp.exe viewer. You can then > > add > >> your help into the master contents list too. See > >> > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnppc2k2/html/WinCEHelp.asp > >> For more details > >> > >> > 2. Fonts. I allow the user to configure the fonts the application uses > >> > when > >> > drawing info to the screen. The docs state that when displayed, these > >> > options must appear in this order, left to right: style, font, font > > size, > >> > bold, italic, underline. > >> > > >> > In my case, I have several comboboxes on the left side of my form. One > >> > combobox for the font, and under it, one for font size. On the other > >> > right > >> > side of my form, I have the checkboxes for Bold, Italic, Underline, > >> > from > >> > top > >> > to bottom. It follows the "flavor" of the requirement but is not left > > to > >> > right. Is this ok? There's no logical way to make these options go > > left > >> > to > >> > right. > >> > > >> > >> Looking at the Font dialog in Pocket Word, the options are arranged Font, > >> Size and the style flags are arranged vertically below. Perhaps you could > >> follow the format used there... > >> > >> > 3. Clarification: when I show a dialog box for settings, I must keep > > the > >> > application name as the form's text property? (IE, myform.text = <app > >> > name>). It seems fairly strict against truncating the text, so I > > suppost > >> > "<app name>: Fonts" would likely be out. > >> > > >> > >> If you want to provide a sub-heading, you should draw it on the form > > itself > >> and underline it with a single pixel line across the entire screen width > >> (see other settings dialogs for an example). The SDK contains the exact > >> specs for font, color and pixel dimensions required. > >> > >> > 4. Finally, is there a way to execute code should the app be > > uninstalled? > >> > I have an option that allows the app to run for certain events > >> > (CeRunAppAtEvent) and, should the user elect this option, but then > >> > uninstall > >> > the app, I'm uncertain how this should get cleaned up. Right now I > > simply > >> > state, in the help, to make sure these options are disabled before > >> > uninstalling, but I'm not sure if this would pass logo certification. > >> > > >> > >> The way to do this would be to write a custom setup dll to be placed in > > your > >> cab files. See > >> > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dv_evtuv/html/etgrfsetupdllfilesfordevices.asp > >> > >> You can place code in the Uninstall_Init and Uninstall_Exit to perform > >> cleanup operations when your ap is uninstalled. This setup.dll must be > >> written in native code as it must expose specific functions. ce_setup.h > >> defines the function prototypes required. > >> > >> Peter > >> > >> -- > >> Peter Foot > >> Windows Embedded MVP > >> OpenNETCF.org Senior Advisor > >> www.inthehand.com | www.opennetcf.org > >> > >> > > > > > >
The online SDK has an example here with the dimensions:-
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/ui_guide_ppc/htm/Text_Header_PPC.asp You can see this in practise on any of the settings dialogs e.g. Start > Settings > Today. Peter -- Peter Foot Windows Embedded MVP OpenNETCF.org Senior Advisor www.inthehand.com | www.opennetcf.org [quoted text, click to view] "Tommy Malone" <tommy@angula.net> wrote in message news:uVKtg52MEHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > Peter, can you provide an example of this that I can look at? > > "If you want to provide a sub-heading, you should draw it on the form > itself > and underline it with a single pixel line across the entire screen width > (see other settings dialogs for an example). The SDK contains the exact > specs for font, color and pixel dimensions required." > > > "Peter Foot [MVP]" <feedback@nospam-inthehand.com> wrote in message > news:Ob7RNszMEHA.1608@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> Answers inline:- >> >> "Brian H" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:%238FStoyMEHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I've been encouraged by a few users of a freeware app I've written to >> > submit >> > it to this Mobile2Market competition. I'm going over the requirements > for >> > logo certification a bit, and would like a few clarifications. First > the >> > easy one: >> > >> > 1. Since my app is mainly in the CF, the exemptions section seems to >> > inficate that: >> > - tooltips on the command bar are not needed. >> > - it is ok for CF apps to have a different help mechanism and display a >> > way >> > for the user to invoke this help. >> > >> > Regarding the help, I simply CreateProcess an iexplore instance to > disaply >> > a >> > help.html file. Would this be allowable? >> > >> >> The CF exemptions would indicate yes. However you could still use the >> Windows CE peghelp format for your help, but just supply your own way of >> invoking it with CreateProcess and the peghelp.exe viewer. You can then > add >> your help into the master contents list too. See >> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnppc2k2/html/WinCEHelp.asp >> For more details >> >> > 2. Fonts. I allow the user to configure the fonts the application uses >> > when >> > drawing info to the screen. The docs state that when displayed, these >> > options must appear in this order, left to right: style, font, font > size, >> > bold, italic, underline. >> > >> > In my case, I have several comboboxes on the left side of my form. One >> > combobox for the font, and under it, one for font size. On the other >> > right >> > side of my form, I have the checkboxes for Bold, Italic, Underline, >> > from >> > top >> > to bottom. It follows the "flavor" of the requirement but is not left > to >> > right. Is this ok? There's no logical way to make these options go > left >> > to >> > right. >> > >> >> Looking at the Font dialog in Pocket Word, the options are arranged Font, >> Size and the style flags are arranged vertically below. Perhaps you could >> follow the format used there... >> >> > 3. Clarification: when I show a dialog box for settings, I must keep > the >> > application name as the form's text property? (IE, myform.text = <app >> > name>). It seems fairly strict against truncating the text, so I > suppost >> > "<app name>: Fonts" would likely be out. >> > >> >> If you want to provide a sub-heading, you should draw it on the form > itself >> and underline it with a single pixel line across the entire screen width >> (see other settings dialogs for an example). The SDK contains the exact >> specs for font, color and pixel dimensions required. >> >> > 4. Finally, is there a way to execute code should the app be > uninstalled? >> > I have an option that allows the app to run for certain events >> > (CeRunAppAtEvent) and, should the user elect this option, but then >> > uninstall >> > the app, I'm uncertain how this should get cleaned up. Right now I > simply >> > state, in the help, to make sure these options are disabled before >> > uninstalling, but I'm not sure if this would pass logo certification. >> > >> >> The way to do this would be to write a custom setup dll to be placed in > your >> cab files. See >> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dv_evtuv/html/etgrfsetupdllfilesfordevices.asp >> >> You can place code in the Uninstall_Init and Uninstall_Exit to perform >> cleanup operations when your ap is uninstalled. This setup.dll must be >> written in native code as it must expose specific functions. ce_setup.h >> defines the function prototypes required. >> >> Peter >> >> -- >> Peter Foot >> Windows Embedded MVP >> OpenNETCF.org Senior Advisor >> www.inthehand.com | www.opennetcf.org >> >> > >
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