"Paul Ilacqua" <Pilacqu2@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:%23jJdQAaREHA.904@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I have an Dell Axim with Windows Mobile 2003. I also have VB net and am
> experienced at VB 6 & SQL Server. How can I write a quick program to get
to
> my SQL Server and then I can expand on the concept. Documentation is very
> little in writing a quickie and getting it onto the hand held. Please help
> if you can.
> Thank you
> Paul
>
>

"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" <skeet@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b22de03ed50475098aa71@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Paul Ilacqua <Pilacqu2@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> > I have an Dell Axim with Windows Mobile 2003. I also have VB net and am
> > experienced at VB 6 & SQL Server. How can I write a quick program to get
to
> > my SQL Server and then I can expand on the concept. Documentation is
very
> > little in writing a quickie and getting it onto the hand held. Please
help
> > if you can.
>
> I would seriously suggest writing a desktop app to start with, to get
> up to speed with .NET. Even your desktop app shouldn't start off going
> to the database:
>
> 1) Write some simple console applications which just do looping,
> printing out numbers etc, to get used to any VB.NET syntax and concept
> changes.
>
> 2) Write some simple console apps which get data from a database using
> ADO.NET.
>
> 3) Write some simple GUI apps which don't involve databases.
>
> 4) Write a more complicated GUI app which *does* involve databases.
>
> 5) Write a simple GUI app on the compact framework which is basically
> just "hello world"
>
> 6) Build that up so that it fetches some data from a database in a
> *very* simple way (no GUI interaction beyond "press a button to do a
> query")
>
> 7) Include user interaction (data binding etc)
>
> In my experience you'll get a lot less frustrated by breaking it up
> like this than trying to go straight for what may *seem* to be a
> relatively simple app but which actually has a whole bunch of new
> concepts in.
>
> --
> Jon Skeet - <skeet@pobox.com>
> http://www.pobox.com/~skeet
> If replying to the group, please do not mail me too

"William Ryan eMVP" <dotnetguru@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:eFN93OaREHA.1448@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Paul:
>
> You can reference full SQL Server from your device pretty much the same as
> you would from the desktop. Make sure you have a reference the the
> SQLClient library.
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqlce/htm/_lce_sqlclient_705.asp
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqlce/htm/_lce_sqlclient_705.asp
> Using SQL Server CE is another pretty cool way to do things, but I don't
> get the feeling that's what you are asking about. I'm not sure how much
you
> are asking about, but basically you'll create a new project, choose Smart
> Device Appliction , the Smart Device Application wizard will ask you to
> target the platform (Pocket PC) and type Windows Application (unless you
> want to create another type). You can then add your refernces, build your
> ui and do things pretty much like a full framework app. You have two
> deployment options, the device or the emulator. If you have your device
> cradled it will load the framework if it's not there (this is when you
> build), and load your app. Debugging is somewhat limited, I'll warn you
of
> that now but you can still set breakpoints and most of the major things.
> Inherently there's not Debug.WriteLine or Console.WriteLine but you can
use
> your own preference to notify yourself of what's going on.
>
> Anyway, the first place to start if you want to get into CF development is
> www.opennetcf.org .They have many samples and to be honest, I'd download
> their SDF before I did much more if I had any plans on doing any serious
CF
> development. You don't technically need it just to hit a SQL Server and
pull
> over data, but it fills in the gaps on the CF and if your app is anythign
> more than a recreatinoal thing you're doing to play around, the OpennetCF
> library will help you out tremendously.
>
> The quickstart tutorials will also be helpful
> http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/compactframework/doc/default.aspx
> This should get you on your way.
>
> HTH,
>
> Bill
>
> --
> W.G. Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Have an opinion on the effectiveness of Microsoft Embedded newsgroups?
> Let Microsoft know!
> https://www.windowsembeddedeval.com/community/newsgroups
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> "Paul Ilacqua" <Pilacqu2@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:%23jJdQAaREHA.904@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > I have an Dell Axim with Windows Mobile 2003. I also have VB net and am
> > experienced at VB 6 & SQL Server. How can I write a quick program to get
> to
> > my SQL Server and then I can expand on the concept. Documentation is
very
> > little in writing a quickie and getting it onto the hand held. Please
help
> > if you can.
> > Thank you
> > Paul
> >
> >
>
>

"Earl comcast net>" <brikshoe<at.> wrote in message
news:uuK%236TbREHA.1396@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> To expand on what Jon says, ADO.Net is a huge amount of material to learn
> all by itself. Unlike VBCE, I don't think it is feasible to expect to be
> able to just jump right in and write a quick and dirty PPc database app
with
> CF. The only common theme between VBCE and CF is that they both were
> released with a watered down set of controls.
>
> "Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" <skeet@pobox.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b22de03ed50475098aa71@msnews.microsoft.com...
> > Paul Ilacqua <Pilacqu2@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> > > I have an Dell Axim with Windows Mobile 2003. I also have VB net and
am
> > > experienced at VB 6 & SQL Server. How can I write a quick program to
get
> to
> > > my SQL Server and then I can expand on the concept. Documentation is
> very
> > > little in writing a quickie and getting it onto the hand held. Please
> help
> > > if you can.
> >
> > I would seriously suggest writing a desktop app to start with, to get
> > up to speed with .NET. Even your desktop app shouldn't start off going
> > to the database:
> >
> > 1) Write some simple console applications which just do looping,
> > printing out numbers etc, to get used to any VB.NET syntax and concept
> > changes.
> >
> > 2) Write some simple console apps which get data from a database using
> > ADO.NET.
> >
> > 3) Write some simple GUI apps which don't involve databases.
> >
> > 4) Write a more complicated GUI app which *does* involve databases.
> >
> > 5) Write a simple GUI app on the compact framework which is basically
> > just "hello world"
> >
> > 6) Build that up so that it fetches some data from a database in a
> > *very* simple way (no GUI interaction beyond "press a button to do a
> > query")
> >
> > 7) Include user interaction (data binding etc)
> >
> > In my experience you'll get a lot less frustrated by breaking it up
> > like this than trying to go straight for what may *seem* to be a
> > relatively simple app but which actually has a whole bunch of new
> > concepts in.
> >
> > --
> > Jon Skeet - <skeet@pobox.com>
> > http://www.pobox.com/~skeet
> > If replying to the group, please do not mail me too
>
>

Paul Ilacqua <Pilacqu2@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> I have an Dell Axim with Windows Mobile 2003. I also have VB net and am
> experienced at VB 6 & SQL Server. How can I write a quick program to get to
> my SQL Server and then I can expand on the concept. Documentation is very
> little in writing a quickie and getting it onto the hand held. Please help
> if you can.

"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" <skeet@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b2322975230e98898aa78@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Paul Ilacqua <pilacqu1@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> > I guess what I'm looking for is like the old simple "Welcome to
Pubs" or
> > "Hello World" message boxes VB projects that will run on the mobile
devices
> > (Axim). Once I can simply connect to my SQL Server through my Axim I'm
off
> > and running.
>
> But even that kind of "hello world" program is introducing various
> concepts:
>
> o The .NET framework
> o The Compact Framework - a subset of the desktop framework (which is
> what most of the docs you'll be reading are talking about) plus some
> CF-specific things
> o VB.NET syntax
> o The process of developing/running apps on mobile devices
>
> All of these things can (to a large extent) and should (as far as
> possible, to start with) be separated, IMO.
>
> If you start off with even the simplest "GUI + SQL access from mobile
> device" project, there's too much to take in to start with, and you're
> bound to make some assumptions which are invalid. By the time you've
> worked out what those invalid assumptions are, you may have relied on
> them for code throughout your project. Doing code right to start with
> is a lot easier than fixing it up afterwards - and learning in "baby
> steps" is the best way (IMO) to write decent code from the start.
>
> --
> Jon Skeet - <skeet@pobox.com>
> http://www.pobox.com/~skeet
> If replying to the group, please do not mail me too

"Paul Ilacqua" <Pilacqu2@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:OHYFl3aREHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Bill,
> Thanks for the quick reply, my VB .Net does not have the choice for
Smart
> Device application. I only have the standard edition maybe that's it. Per
> another reply I already have extensive experience with VB4,5 & 6 and SQL
> Server and have written some simple connection stuff from VB .NET to SQL
> Server 2000. I just need to get the syntax to build a VB.NET - SQL Server
> connection for the AXIM ("smart Device") I will check out some of the
links.
> Again thanks for the speedy reply.
> Paul
>
> "William Ryan eMVP" <dotnetguru@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:eFN93OaREHA.1448@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Paul:
> >
> > You can reference full SQL Server from your device pretty much the same
as
> > you would from the desktop. Make sure you have a reference the the
> > SQLClient library.
> >
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqlce/htm/_lce_sqlclient_705.asp
> >
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqlce/htm/_lce_sqlclient_705.asp
> > Using SQL Server CE is another pretty cool way to do things, but I
don't
> > get the feeling that's what you are asking about. I'm not sure how much
> you
> > are asking about, but basically you'll create a new project, choose
Smart
> > Device Appliction , the Smart Device Application wizard will ask you to
> > target the platform (Pocket PC) and type Windows Application (unless you
> > want to create another type). You can then add your refernces, build
your
> > ui and do things pretty much like a full framework app. You have two
> > deployment options, the device or the emulator. If you have your device
> > cradled it will load the framework if it's not there (this is when you
> > build), and load your app. Debugging is somewhat limited, I'll warn you
> of
> > that now but you can still set breakpoints and most of the major things.
> > Inherently there's not Debug.WriteLine or Console.WriteLine but you can
> use
> > your own preference to notify yourself of what's going on.
> >
> > Anyway, the first place to start if you want to get into CF development
is
> > www.opennetcf.org .They have many samples and to be honest, I'd download
> > their SDF before I did much more if I had any plans on doing any serious
> CF
> > development. You don't technically need it just to hit a SQL Server and
> pull
> > over data, but it fills in the gaps on the CF and if your app is
anythign
> > more than a recreatinoal thing you're doing to play around, the
OpennetCF
> > library will help you out tremendously.
> >
> > The quickstart tutorials will also be helpful
> >
http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/compactframework/doc/default.aspx
> > This should get you on your way.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --
> > W.G. Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Have an opinion on the effectiveness of Microsoft Embedded newsgroups?
> > Let Microsoft know!
> > https://www.windowsembeddedeval.com/community/newsgroups
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > "Paul Ilacqua" <Pilacqu2@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23jJdQAaREHA.904@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > I have an Dell Axim with Windows Mobile 2003. I also have VB net and
am
> > > experienced at VB 6 & SQL Server. How can I write a quick program to
get
> > to
> > > my SQL Server and then I can expand on the concept. Documentation is
> very
> > > little in writing a quickie and getting it onto the hand held. Please
> help
> > > if you can.
> > > Thank you
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Paul Ilacqua <pilacqu1@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> I guess what I'm looking for is like the old simple "Welcome to Pubs" or
> "Hello World" message boxes VB projects that will run on the mobile devices
> (Axim). Once I can simply connect to my SQL Server through my Axim I'm off
> and running.

Paul Ilacqua <pilacqu1@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the insight..... I'm an old dog @ 50, and I'm looking at
> another steep learning curve with .NET and not sure if I have it in me.

"William Ryan eMVP" <dotnetguru@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:OF8C6GeREHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Ok, I didn't realize you only had standard. You'll probably want to pick
up
> a copy of Pro although technically you can build apps without it. there's
a
> piece on www.msmobiles.com about it, but not having the ide and emulator
is
> a lot more costly than VS Pro. Here's a link to getting the development
> tools.
>
http://forums.devbuzz.com/Development_Tools_%2D_What_and_Where_to_get_them/m_23928/tm.htm
> HTH,
>
> Bill
>
> --
> W.G. Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded
>
> http://forums.devbuzz.com
> http://www.knowdotnet.com/dataaccess.html
> http://www.msmvps.com/williamryan/
> "Paul Ilacqua" <Pilacqu2@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:OHYFl3aREHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Bill,
> > Thanks for the quick reply, my VB .Net does not have the choice for
> Smart
> > Device application. I only have the standard edition maybe that's it.
Per
> > another reply I already have extensive experience with VB4,5 & 6 and SQL
> > Server and have written some simple connection stuff from VB .NET to SQL
> > Server 2000. I just need to get the syntax to build a VB.NET - SQL
Server
> > connection for the AXIM ("smart Device") I will check out some of the
> links.
> > Again thanks for the speedy reply.
> > Paul
> >
> > "William Ryan eMVP" <dotnetguru@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
> > news:eFN93OaREHA.1448@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > Paul:
> > >
> > > You can reference full SQL Server from your device pretty much the
same
> as
> > > you would from the desktop. Make sure you have a reference the the
> > > SQLClient library.
> > >
> >
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqlce/htm/_lce_sqlclient_705.asp
> > >
> >
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqlce/htm/_lce_sqlclient_705.asp
> > > Using SQL Server CE is another pretty cool way to do things, but I
> don't
> > > get the feeling that's what you are asking about. I'm not sure how
much
> > you
> > > are asking about, but basically you'll create a new project, choose
> Smart
> > > Device Appliction , the Smart Device Application wizard will ask you
to
> > > target the platform (Pocket PC) and type Windows Application (unless
you
> > > want to create another type). You can then add your refernces, build
> your
> > > ui and do things pretty much like a full framework app. You have two
> > > deployment options, the device or the emulator. If you have your
device
> > > cradled it will load the framework if it's not there (this is when you
> > > build), and load your app. Debugging is somewhat limited, I'll warn
you
> > of
> > > that now but you can still set breakpoints and most of the major
things.
> > > Inherently there's not Debug.WriteLine or Console.WriteLine but you
can
> > use
> > > your own preference to notify yourself of what's going on.
> > >
> > > Anyway, the first place to start if you want to get into CF
development
> is
> > > www.opennetcf.org .They have many samples and to be honest, I'd
download
> > > their SDF before I did much more if I had any plans on doing any
serious
> > CF
> > > development. You don't technically need it just to hit a SQL Server
and
> > pull
> > > over data, but it fills in the gaps on the CF and if your app is
> anythign
> > > more than a recreatinoal thing you're doing to play around, the
> OpennetCF
> > > library will help you out tremendously.
> > >
> > > The quickstart tutorials will also be helpful
> > >
> http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/compactframework/doc/default.aspx
> > > This should get you on your way.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > --
> > > W.G. Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded
> > >
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >
> > > Have an opinion on the effectiveness of Microsoft Embedded newsgroups?
> > > Let Microsoft know!
> > > https://www.windowsembeddedeval.com/community/newsgroups
> > >
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >
> > > "Paul Ilacqua" <Pilacqu2@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%23jJdQAaREHA.904@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > I have an Dell Axim with Windows Mobile 2003. I also have VB net and
> am
> > > > experienced at VB 6 & SQL Server. How can I write a quick program to
> get
> > > to
> > > > my SQL Server and then I can expand on the concept. Documentation is
> > very
> > > > little in writing a quickie and getting it onto the hand held.
Please
> > help
> > > > if you can.
> > > > Thank you
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" <skeet@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b2384e1335d0a4f98aa7b@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Paul Ilacqua <pilacqu1@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> > Thanks for the insight..... I'm an old dog @ 50, and I'm looking at
> > another steep learning curve with .NET and not sure if I have it in me.
>
> I'm sure you have. There's a lot of .NET to learn, but fortunately you
> don't need to learn *all* of it at once. I've never really touched
> serialization or remoting, for instance :)
>
> It's well worth the effort - for the most part, it's a lovely
> environment (although the compact framework *will* have you tearing
> your hair out at times - there are some nasty bugs and missing
> features). There are loads of people ready to help, too!
>
> --
> Jon Skeet - <skeet@pobox.com>
> http://www.pobox.com/~skeet
> If replying to the group, please do not mail me too

"Paul Ilacqua" <pilacqu1@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:uehTej2REHA.2200@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Jon ,
> The reason I get frustrated is .. all I want to do is develop apps for
> the portables and I have had the software (VB. NET standard) for over a
> month and I still cannot write a single line of code for my AXIM. I must
> have the wrong version of VB to do it correctly and after downloading all
of
> the SDK's and emulators it still doesn't work. I'm not asking for an
answer
> but just venting my frustration. My VB 6 spoiled me, to be able to write a
> functional App in an hour, to spending weeks using newsgroups (thank god
for
> them) to begin to write code.
> Thanks for your help.
> Paul
>
> "Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" <skeet@pobox.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b2384e1335d0a4f98aa7b@msnews.microsoft.com...
> > Paul Ilacqua <pilacqu1@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks for the insight..... I'm an old dog @ 50, and I'm looking at
> > > another steep learning curve with .NET and not sure if I have it in
me.
> >
> > I'm sure you have. There's a lot of .NET to learn, but fortunately you
> > don't need to learn *all* of it at once. I've never really touched
> > serialization or remoting, for instance :)
> >
> > It's well worth the effort - for the most part, it's a lovely
> > environment (although the compact framework *will* have you tearing
> > your hair out at times - there are some nasty bugs and missing
> > features). There are loads of people ready to help, too!
> >
> > --
> > Jon Skeet - <skeet@pobox.com>
> > http://www.pobox.com/~skeet
> > If replying to the group, please do not mail me too
>
>

"Paul Ilacqua" <pilacqu1@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:uehTej2REHA.2200@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Jon ,
> The reason I get frustrated is .. all I want to do is develop apps for
> the portables and I have had the software (VB. NET standard) for over a
> month and I still cannot write a single line of code for my AXIM. I must
> have the wrong version of VB to do it correctly and after downloading all
of
> the SDK's and emulators it still doesn't work. I'm not asking for an
answer
> but just venting my frustration. My VB 6 spoiled me, to be able to write a
> functional App in an hour, to spending weeks using newsgroups (thank god
for
> them) to begin to write code.
> Thanks for your help.
> Paul
>
> "Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" <skeet@pobox.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b2384e1335d0a4f98aa7b@msnews.microsoft.com...
> > Paul Ilacqua <pilacqu1@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks for the insight..... I'm an old dog @ 50, and I'm looking at
> > > another steep learning curve with .NET and not sure if I have it in
me.
> >
> > I'm sure you have. There's a lot of .NET to learn, but fortunately you
> > don't need to learn *all* of it at once. I've never really touched
> > serialization or remoting, for instance :)
> >
> > It's well worth the effort - for the most part, it's a lovely
> > environment (although the compact framework *will* have you tearing
> > your hair out at times - there are some nasty bugs and missing
> > features). There are loads of people ready to help, too!
> >
> > --
> > Jon Skeet - <skeet@pobox.com>
> > http://www.pobox.com/~skeet
> > If replying to the group, please do not mail me too
>
>

"Paul Ilacqua" <pilacqu1@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:OBd8Xe2REHA.2704@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Can I get VB.Net Pro ? I can't seem to find it anywhere. I'll spend
another
> 100.00 but not 500 for VS pro.
> Thanks again.
>
> Paul
>
> "William Ryan eMVP" <dotnetguru@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:OF8C6GeREHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Ok, I didn't realize you only had standard. You'll probably want to
pick
> up
> > a copy of Pro although technically you can build apps without it.
there's
> a
> > piece on www.msmobiles.com about it, but not having the ide and emulator
> is
> > a lot more costly than VS Pro. Here's a link to getting the development
> > tools.
> >
>
http://forums.devbuzz.com/Development_Tools_%2D_What_and_Where_to_get_them/m_23928/tm.htm
> > HTH,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --
> > W.G. Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded
> >
> > http://forums.devbuzz.com
> > http://www.knowdotnet.com/dataaccess.html
> > http://www.msmvps.com/williamryan/
> > "Paul Ilacqua" <Pilacqu2@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:OHYFl3aREHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > Bill,
> > > Thanks for the quick reply, my VB .Net does not have the choice for
> > Smart
> > > Device application. I only have the standard edition maybe that's it.
> Per
> > > another reply I already have extensive experience with VB4,5 & 6 and
SQL
> > > Server and have written some simple connection stuff from VB .NET to
SQL
> > > Server 2000. I just need to get the syntax to build a VB.NET - SQL
> Server
> > > connection for the AXIM ("smart Device") I will check out some of the
> > links.
> > > Again thanks for the speedy reply.
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > "William Ryan eMVP" <dotnetguru@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
> > > news:eFN93OaREHA.1448@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > Paul:
> > > >
> > > > You can reference full SQL Server from your device pretty much the
> same
> > as
> > > > you would from the desktop. Make sure you have a reference the the
> > > > SQLClient library.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqlce/htm/_lce_sqlclient_705.asp
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqlce/htm/_lce_sqlclient_705.asp
> > > > Using SQL Server CE is another pretty cool way to do things, but I
> > don't
> > > > get the feeling that's what you are asking about. I'm not sure how
> much
> > > you
> > > > are asking about, but basically you'll create a new project, choose
> > Smart
> > > > Device Appliction , the Smart Device Application wizard will ask you
> to
> > > > target the platform (Pocket PC) and type Windows Application (unless
> you
> > > > want to create another type). You can then add your refernces,
build
> > your
> > > > ui and do things pretty much like a full framework app. You have
two
> > > > deployment options, the device or the emulator. If you have your
> device
> > > > cradled it will load the framework if it's not there (this is when
you
> > > > build), and load your app. Debugging is somewhat limited, I'll warn
> you
> > > of
> > > > that now but you can still set breakpoints and most of the major
> things.
> > > > Inherently there's not Debug.WriteLine or Console.WriteLine but you
> can
> > > use
> > > > your own preference to notify yourself of what's going on.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, the first place to start if you want to get into CF
> development
> > is
> > > > www.opennetcf.org .They have many samples and to be honest, I'd
> download
> > > > their SDF before I did much more if I had any plans on doing any
> serious
> > > CF
> > > > development. You don't technically need it just to hit a SQL Server
> and
> > > pull
> > > > over data, but it fills in the gaps on the CF and if your app is
> > anythign
> > > > more than a recreatinoal thing you're doing to play around, the
> > OpennetCF
> > > > library will help you out tremendously.
> > > >
> > > > The quickstart tutorials will also be helpful
> > > >
> >
http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/compactframework/doc/default.aspx
> > > > This should get you on your way.
> > > >
> > > > HTH,
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > W.G. Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded
> > > >
> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > >
> > > > Have an opinion on the effectiveness of Microsoft Embedded
newsgroups?
> > > > Let Microsoft know!
> > > > https://www.windowsembeddedeval.com/community/newsgroups
> > > >
> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > >
> > > > "Paul Ilacqua" <Pilacqu2@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:%23jJdQAaREHA.904@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > I have an Dell Axim with Windows Mobile 2003. I also have VB net
and
> > am
> > > > > experienced at VB 6 & SQL Server. How can I write a quick program
to
> > get
> > > > to
> > > > > my SQL Server and then I can expand on the concept. Documentation
is
> > > very
> > > > > little in writing a quickie and getting it onto the hand held.
> Please
> > > help
> > > > > if you can.
> > > > > Thank you
> > > > > Paul
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

"Paul Ilacqua" <pilacqu1@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:u%23j$thCSEHA.3444@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I have VB.NET but when it installs it tells me it's Visual Studio.NET
> 2003 with language VB.Net installed. When I start the program it tells me
> it's Visual Studio.NET 2003 Standard. Are you saying I need something more
?
> Thanks for the reply
> Paul
>
>
> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <ptobey_no_spam@instrument_no_spam.com> wrote in
> message news:%233pbFt$REHA.3124@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > As you may have heard, you need Visual Studio.NET, not just VB.NET, to
do
> > Smart Device applications. VS.NET 2003 or later, specifically.
> >
> > Paul T.
> >
> > "Paul Ilacqua" <pilacqu1@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:OBd8Xe2REHA.2704@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > Can I get VB.Net Pro ? I can't seem to find it anywhere. I'll spend
> > another
> > > 100.00 but not 500 for VS pro.
> > > Thanks again.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > "William Ryan eMVP" <dotnetguru@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
> > > news:OF8C6GeREHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > Ok, I didn't realize you only had standard. You'll probably want to
> > pick
> > > up
> > > > a copy of Pro although technically you can build apps without it.
> > there's
> > > a
> > > > piece on www.msmobiles.com about it, but not having the ide and
> emulator
> > > is
> > > > a lot more costly than VS Pro. Here's a link to getting the
> development
> > > > tools.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://forums.devbuzz.com/Development_Tools_%2D_What_and_Where_to_get_them/m_23928/tm.htm
> > > > HTH,
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > W.G. Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded
> > > >
> > > > http://forums.devbuzz.com
> > > > http://www.knowdotnet.com/dataaccess.html
> > > > http://www.msmvps.com/williamryan/
> > > > "Paul Ilacqua" <Pilacqu2@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:OHYFl3aREHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Bill,
> > > > > Thanks for the quick reply, my VB .Net does not have the choice
> for
> > > > Smart
> > > > > Device application. I only have the standard edition maybe that's
> it.
> > > Per
> > > > > another reply I already have extensive experience with VB4,5 & 6
and
> > SQL
> > > > > Server and have written some simple connection stuff from VB .NET
to
> > SQL
> > > > > Server 2000. I just need to get the syntax to build a VB.NET - SQL
> > > Server
> > > > > connection for the AXIM ("smart Device") I will check out some of
> the
> > > > links.
> > > > > Again thanks for the speedy reply.
> > > > > Paul
> > > > >
> > > > > "William Ryan eMVP" <dotnetguru@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in
message
> > > > > news:eFN93OaREHA.1448@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > Paul:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can reference full SQL Server from your device pretty much
the
> > > same
> > > > as
> > > > > > you would from the desktop. Make sure you have a reference the
> the
> > > > > > SQLClient library.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqlce/htm/_lce_sqlclient_705.asp
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sqlce/htm/_lce_sqlclient_705.asp
> > > > > > Using SQL Server CE is another pretty cool way to do things,
but
> I
> > > > don't
> > > > > > get the feeling that's what you are asking about. I'm not sure
> how
> > > much
> > > > > you
> > > > > > are asking about, but basically you'll create a new project,
> choose
> > > > Smart
> > > > > > Device Appliction , the Smart Device Application wizard will ask
> you
> > > to
> > > > > > target the platform (Pocket PC) and type Windows Application
> (unless
> > > you
> > > > > > want to create another type). You can then add your refernces,
> > build
> > > > your
> > > > > > ui and do things pretty much like a full framework app. You
have
> > two
> > > > > > deployment options, the device or the emulator. If you have
your
> > > device
> > > > > > cradled it will load the framework if it's not there (this is
when
> > you
> > > > > > build), and load your app. Debugging is somewhat limited, I'll
> warn
> > > you
> > > > > of
> > > > > > that now but you can still set breakpoints and most of the major
> > > things.
> > > > > > Inherently there's not Debug.WriteLine or Console.WriteLine but
> you
> > > can
> > > > > use
> > > > > > your own preference to notify yourself of what's going on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyway, the first place to start if you want to get into CF
> > > development
> > > > is
> > > > > > www.opennetcf.org .They have many samples and to be honest, I'd
> > > download
> > > > > > their SDF before I did much more if I had any plans on doing any
> > > serious
> > > > > CF
> > > > > > development. You don't technically need it just to hit a SQL
> Server
> > > and
> > > > > pull
> > > > > > over data, but it fills in the gaps on the CF and if your app is
> > > > anythign
> > > > > > more than a recreatinoal thing you're doing to play around, the
> > > > OpennetCF
> > > > > > library will help you out tremendously.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The quickstart tutorials will also be helpful
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/compactframework/doc/default.aspx
> > > > > > This should get you on your way.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > W.G. Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have an opinion on the effectiveness of Microsoft Embedded
> > newsgroups?
> > > > > > Let Microsoft know!
> > > > > > https://www.windowsembeddedeval.com/community/newsgroups
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Paul Ilacqua" <Pilacqu2@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:%23jJdQAaREHA.904@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > I have an Dell Axim with Windows Mobile 2003. I also have VB
net
> > and
> > > > am
> > > > > > > experienced at VB 6 & SQL Server. How can I write a quick
> program
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > my SQL Server and then I can expand on the concept.
> Documentation
> > is
> > > > > very
> > > > > > > little in writing a quickie and getting it onto the hand held.
> > > Please
> > > > > help
> > > > > > > if you can.
> > > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > > Paul
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >