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Switching to Netcf2.0 requires WinCe OS upgrade
Thanks to help on this forum I was able to get the new Vs2005 to deploy to my WinCe device (sh4 microprocessor). Unfortunately I then received the two following errors. "The program is not compatible with the current operating system and, therefore, may not run on this device. Do you want to continue installation." "Unable to start program 'IcTb4.exe'. The specified program requires a newer version of Windows" Another group designed the OS that is running on the WinCe device. I was not involved in that development. What do I need to tell them needs to be done to make the WinCe OS (sh4 uP) compatible with Netcf2.0? Thanks. -- John Olbert
It doesn't really matter, does it? CF2 is not currently supported on pre CE5
devices (vanilla CE) [quoted text, click to view] "<ctacke/>" <ctacke_AT_OpenNETCF_com> wrote in message
news:%23pOiw8LPGHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > What version of CE is it running? > > -Chris > > "John Olbert" <someone@snet.net> wrote in message > news:4F5FFD70-E928-48D3-860D-14B768BBADFD@microsoft.com... >> Switching to Netcf2.0 requires WinCe OS upgrade >> >> Thanks to help on this forum I was able to get the new Vs2005 to deploy >> to >> my WinCe device (sh4 microprocessor). Unfortunately I then received the >> two >> following errors. >> >> "The program is not compatible with the current operating system and, >> therefore, may not run on this device. Do you want to continue >> installation." >> >> "Unable to start program 'IcTb4.exe'. The specified program requires a >> newer >> version of Windows" >> >> Another group designed the OS that is running on the WinCe device. I was >> not >> involved in that development. What do I need to tell them needs to be >> done to >> make the WinCe OS (sh4 uP) compatible with Netcf2.0? >> >> Thanks. >> >> -- >> John Olbert >> > >
What version of CE is it running?
-Chris [quoted text, click to view] "John Olbert" <someone@snet.net> wrote in message news:4F5FFD70-E928-48D3-860D-14B768BBADFD@microsoft.com... > Switching to Netcf2.0 requires WinCe OS upgrade > > Thanks to help on this forum I was able to get the new Vs2005 to deploy to > my WinCe device (sh4 microprocessor). Unfortunately I then received the > two > following errors. > > "The program is not compatible with the current operating system and, > therefore, may not run on this device. Do you want to continue > installation." > > "Unable to start program 'IcTb4.exe'. The specified program requires a > newer > version of Windows" > > Another group designed the OS that is running on the WinCe device. I was > not > involved in that development. What do I need to tell them needs to be done > to > make the WinCe OS (sh4 uP) compatible with Netcf2.0? > > Thanks. > > -- > John Olbert >
The device's OS is "Microsoft Windows CE .NET Version 4.20". So based on what
you have indicated the fact that it does not work is consistent with this fact. I assume I will have to get the WinCe device team to upgrade to CE5.0. In case I have problems getting their attention is there an upgrade that I can download for the Sh4 and install myself? Thanks. -- John Olbert [quoted text, click to view] "<ctacke/>" wrote:
> But that's what I was asking. SH4 supports CE 5.0 (though I guess the dialog > wouldn't have appeared in that case). And CE 4.2 will be supported by SP1 > (release date yet to be determined). > > -Chris > > > "Alex Feinman [MVP]" <public_news@alexfeinman.com> wrote in message > news:O2oOSpMPGHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > > It doesn't really matter, does it? CF2 is not currently supported on pre > > CE5 devices (vanilla CE) > > > > "<ctacke/>" <ctacke_AT_OpenNETCF_com> wrote in message > > news:%23pOiw8LPGHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > >> What version of CE is it running? > >> > >> -Chris > >> > >> "John Olbert" <someone@snet.net> wrote in message > >> news:4F5FFD70-E928-48D3-860D-14B768BBADFD@microsoft.com... > >>> Switching to Netcf2.0 requires WinCe OS upgrade > >>> > >>> Thanks to help on this forum I was able to get the new Vs2005 to deploy > >>> to > >>> my WinCe device (sh4 microprocessor). Unfortunately I then received the > >>> two > >>> following errors. > >>> > >>> "The program is not compatible with the current operating system and, > >>> therefore, may not run on this device. Do you want to continue > >>> installation." > >>> > >>> "Unable to start program 'IcTb4.exe'. The specified program requires a > >>> newer > >>> version of Windows" > >>> > >>> Another group designed the OS that is running on the WinCe device. I was > >>> not > >>> involved in that development. What do I need to tell them needs to be > >>> done to > >>> make the WinCe OS (sh4 uP) compatible with Netcf2.0? > >>> > >>> Thanks. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> John Olbert > >>> > >> > >> > > > >
But that's what I was asking. SH4 supports CE 5.0 (though I guess the dialog
wouldn't have appeared in that case). And CE 4.2 will be supported by SP1 (release date yet to be determined). -Chris [quoted text, click to view] "Alex Feinman [MVP]" <public_news@alexfeinman.com> wrote in message news:O2oOSpMPGHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > It doesn't really matter, does it? CF2 is not currently supported on pre > CE5 devices (vanilla CE) > > "<ctacke/>" <ctacke_AT_OpenNETCF_com> wrote in message > news:%23pOiw8LPGHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> What version of CE is it running? >> >> -Chris >> >> "John Olbert" <someone@snet.net> wrote in message >> news:4F5FFD70-E928-48D3-860D-14B768BBADFD@microsoft.com... >>> Switching to Netcf2.0 requires WinCe OS upgrade >>> >>> Thanks to help on this forum I was able to get the new Vs2005 to deploy >>> to >>> my WinCe device (sh4 microprocessor). Unfortunately I then received the >>> two >>> following errors. >>> >>> "The program is not compatible with the current operating system and, >>> therefore, may not run on this device. Do you want to continue >>> installation." >>> >>> "Unable to start program 'IcTb4.exe'. The specified program requires a >>> newer >>> version of Windows" >>> >>> Another group designed the OS that is running on the WinCe device. I was >>> not >>> involved in that development. What do I need to tell them needs to be >>> done to >>> make the WinCe OS (sh4 uP) compatible with Netcf2.0? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> -- >>> John Olbert >>> >> >> >
[quoted text, click to view] "Alex Feinman [MVP]" <public_news@alexfeinman.com> wrote in message news:O2oOSpMPGHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > It doesn't really matter, does it? CF2 is not currently supported on pre > CE5 devices (vanilla CE) I searched google for "vanilla CE" and it said: "Do you mean 'Vanilla ICE'?" ....so I start screaming, "NO GOD, PLEASE NO!!!" Could you define "vanilla CE" for me real quick. Thanks.
Vanilla CE is not a technical term. Vanilla is used generally for
something simple or basic. So vanilla CE here probably means Standard Windows CE installed on a device. If you are talking about WinCE installed in some windows mobile Pocket PC or Smartphone, that is not basic Windows CE, its modified version of CE, made suitable for Pocket PC with some extra and special functions. Cheers!! Sachin Palewar Palewar Techno Solutions Pocket PC & Mobile Software Development Nagpur, India www.palewar.com [quoted text, click to view] Chance Hopkins wrote:
> "Alex Feinman [MVP]" <public_news@alexfeinman.com> wrote in message > news:O2oOSpMPGHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > > It doesn't really matter, does it? CF2 is not currently supported on pre > > CE5 devices (vanilla CE) > > I searched google for "vanilla CE" and it said: > > "Do you mean 'Vanilla ICE'?" > > ...so I start screaming, "NO GOD, PLEASE NO!!!" > > Could you define "vanilla CE" for me real quick. > > Thanks.
I term anything that's CE based, but not a Microsoft-defined platform (WM
5.0, Pocket PC, Smartphone, PMC, HPC 2k, etc) to be "vanilla CE". It covers a lot but is largely what I work with. -Chris [quoted text, click to view] "Chance Hopkins" <chance_hopkins@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eObm9MQPGHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > > "Alex Feinman [MVP]" <public_news@alexfeinman.com> wrote in message > news:O2oOSpMPGHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >> It doesn't really matter, does it? CF2 is not currently supported on pre >> CE5 devices (vanilla CE) > > I searched google for "vanilla CE" and it said: > > "Do you mean 'Vanilla ICE'?" > > ...so I start screaming, "NO GOD, PLEASE NO!!!" > > Could you define "vanilla CE" for me real quick. > > Thanks. > >
Turns out that the firmware Engineer who created the OS for our WinCe4.2
device has been reassigned and is not available. I am not a firmware programmer but is there a way that I can upgrade the device from Ce4.2 to Ce5.0 (sh4 uP). I realize this may be a large task but thought it worth asking. The thing driving this whole task is to get to Netcf2.0 to improve the DataSet.ReadXml() speed. Any help in moving from Ce4.2 to Ce5.0 would be appreciated. I do have the embedded Visual C++ 4.2 Ide. -- John Olbert [quoted text, click to view] "John Olbert" wrote:
> The device's OS is "Microsoft Windows CE .NET Version 4.20". So based on what > you have indicated the fact that it does not work is consistent with this > fact. > > I assume I will have to get the WinCe device team to upgrade to CE5.0. > > In case I have problems getting their attention is there an upgrade that I > can download for the Sh4 and install myself? > > Thanks. > > -- > John Olbert > > > > "<ctacke/>" wrote: > > > But that's what I was asking. SH4 supports CE 5.0 (though I guess the dialog > > wouldn't have appeared in that case). And CE 4.2 will be supported by SP1 > > (release date yet to be determined). > > > > -Chris > > > > > > "Alex Feinman [MVP]" <public_news@alexfeinman.com> wrote in message > > news:O2oOSpMPGHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > > > It doesn't really matter, does it? CF2 is not currently supported on pre > > > CE5 devices (vanilla CE) > > > > > > "<ctacke/>" <ctacke_AT_OpenNETCF_com> wrote in message > > > news:%23pOiw8LPGHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > > >> What version of CE is it running? > > >> > > >> -Chris > > >> > > >> "John Olbert" <someone@snet.net> wrote in message > > >> news:4F5FFD70-E928-48D3-860D-14B768BBADFD@microsoft.com... > > >>> Switching to Netcf2.0 requires WinCe OS upgrade > > >>> > > >>> Thanks to help on this forum I was able to get the new Vs2005 to deploy > > >>> to > > >>> my WinCe device (sh4 microprocessor). Unfortunately I then received the > > >>> two > > >>> following errors. > > >>> > > >>> "The program is not compatible with the current operating system and, > > >>> therefore, may not run on this device. Do you want to continue > > >>> installation." > > >>> > > >>> "Unable to start program 'IcTb4.exe'. The specified program requires a > > >>> newer > > >>> version of Windows" > > >>> > > >>> Another group designed the OS that is running on the WinCe device. I was > > >>> not > > >>> involved in that development. What do I need to tell them needs to be > > >>> done to > > >>> make the WinCe OS (sh4 uP) compatible with Netcf2.0? > > >>> > > >>> Thanks. > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> John Olbert > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >
Yes, it's a non-trivial task. For a novice, you wouldn't likely be done in
less than months and it could be substantially longer, depending on the quality of the board support package for your hardware on which your current OS is based. You'd have to install the 5.0 tools, which are different, port the board support package and your drivers for the hardware on your device to work with 5.0, port various auxiliary files that work differently in the new build system to 5.0, and so on. The eVC 4.2 IDE is of *no* value in this. You have to have Windows CE 5.0 with Platform Builder, which can be purchased from your Microsoft distributor for something around $1000. Paul T. [quoted text, click to view] "John Olbert" <someone@snet.net> wrote in message news:E1ACE7C3-8D2E-4A71-8242-AAE8A48A74E4@microsoft.com... > Turns out that the firmware Engineer who created the OS for our WinCe4.2 > device has been reassigned and is not available. > > I am not a firmware programmer but is there a way that I can upgrade the > device from Ce4.2 to Ce5.0 (sh4 uP). I realize this may be a large task > but > thought it worth asking. The thing driving this whole task is to get to > Netcf2.0 to improve the DataSet.ReadXml() speed. > > Any help in moving from Ce4.2 to Ce5.0 would be appreciated. I do have the > embedded Visual C++ 4.2 Ide. > > > -- > John Olbert > > > > "John Olbert" wrote: > >> The device's OS is "Microsoft Windows CE .NET Version 4.20". So based on >> what >> you have indicated the fact that it does not work is consistent with this >> fact. >> >> I assume I will have to get the WinCe device team to upgrade to CE5.0. >> >> In case I have problems getting their attention is there an upgrade that >> I >> can download for the Sh4 and install myself? >> >> Thanks. >> >> -- >> John Olbert >> >> >> >> "<ctacke/>" wrote: >> >> > But that's what I was asking. SH4 supports CE 5.0 (though I guess the >> > dialog >> > wouldn't have appeared in that case). And CE 4.2 will be supported by >> > SP1 >> > (release date yet to be determined). >> > >> > -Chris >> > >> > >> > "Alex Feinman [MVP]" <public_news@alexfeinman.com> wrote in message >> > news:O2oOSpMPGHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >> > > It doesn't really matter, does it? CF2 is not currently supported on >> > > pre >> > > CE5 devices (vanilla CE) >> > > >> > > "<ctacke/>" <ctacke_AT_OpenNETCF_com> wrote in message >> > > news:%23pOiw8LPGHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> > >> What version of CE is it running? >> > >> >> > >> -Chris >> > >> >> > >> "John Olbert" <someone@snet.net> wrote in message >> > >> news:4F5FFD70-E928-48D3-860D-14B768BBADFD@microsoft.com... >> > >>> Switching to Netcf2.0 requires WinCe OS upgrade >> > >>> >> > >>> Thanks to help on this forum I was able to get the new Vs2005 to >> > >>> deploy >> > >>> to >> > >>> my WinCe device (sh4 microprocessor). Unfortunately I then received >> > >>> the >> > >>> two >> > >>> following errors. >> > >>> >> > >>> "The program is not compatible with the current operating system >> > >>> and, >> > >>> therefore, may not run on this device. Do you want to continue >> > >>> installation." >> > >>> >> > >>> "Unable to start program 'IcTb4.exe'. The specified program >> > >>> requires a >> > >>> newer >> > >>> version of Windows" >> > >>> >> > >>> Another group designed the OS that is running on the WinCe device. >> > >>> I was >> > >>> not >> > >>> involved in that development. What do I need to tell them needs to >> > >>> be >> > >>> done to >> > >>> make the WinCe OS (sh4 uP) compatible with Netcf2.0? >> > >>> >> > >>> Thanks. >> > >>> >> > >>> -- >> > >>> John Olbert >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > >> >
Search for "custom WinCE" device instead
Cheers Daniel -- http://www.danielmoth.com/Blog/ [quoted text, click to view] "Chance Hopkins" <chance_hopkins@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eObm9MQPGHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > > "Alex Feinman [MVP]" <public_news@alexfeinman.com> wrote in message > news:O2oOSpMPGHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >> It doesn't really matter, does it? CF2 is not currently supported on pre >> CE5 devices (vanilla CE) > > I searched google for "vanilla CE" and it said: > > "Do you mean 'Vanilla ICE'?" > > ...so I start screaming, "NO GOD, PLEASE NO!!!" > > Could you define "vanilla CE" for me real quick. > > Thanks. > >
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