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take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application in VS2005 and it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance package also is all C#. While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the wrong factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these bits? TIA Harry
VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C# project in a
solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code files to a VB project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend to consume the classes. -- Chris Tacke, eMVP Join the Embedded Developer Community http://community.opennetcf.com [quoted text, click to view] "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message news:uukPZVDPIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006 (refresh).msi to > take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application in VS2005 and > it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance package also is all > C#. > > While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the wrong > factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these bits? > > TIA > Harry >
The Mobile Software Client Factory is all C# including all source and demos.
If you really want it in VB.NET, you could use Reflector. -- Simon Hart Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP http://simonrhart.blogspot.com [quoted text, click to view] "Harry Simpson" wrote:
> LOL, that's why I like you Chris. you're honest! ;-) I've got the book in > front of me so save your steps. > Their book is all C# code but the MCSF stuff may also just enable C# project > creation as a guidance ext. in the ide now..... > > "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message > news:%23SW291NPIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > You're out of my area of knowledge. I know of the MCSF, but I've never > > felt compelled to use them. I know the MS Press book of the CF (Wiggley, > > Foot and Moth) covers the MCSF, but I'm not sure if they cover VB (and I > > don't feel like walking to my bookshelf to look right now - sorry). > > > > > > -- > > > > Chris Tacke, eMVP > > Join the Embedded Developer Community > > http://community.opennetcf.com > > > > > > "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message > > news:OkLRipNPIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >> Thanks Chris, > >> > >> I was just trying to look at the Mobile Client Software Factory and > >> wondered why there was no VB.NET sample code even if it hit the C# DLLs > >> within the solution. I'll continue to try to find some better > >> documentation to enlighten myself with. > >> I opened the new project > >> |--Guidance Packages- > >> |------Mobile Client Software- > >> |----------Factory CAB Application > >> |------Guidance Package Development- > >> |----------Guidance Package > >> > >> Just wondering if there is a VB.NET new Composite UI Mobile Application > >> project or is it only offered for C#? > >> > >> TIA > >> Harry > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message > >> news:ukc2tYDPIHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >>> VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C# project in a > >>> solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code files to a > >>> VB project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend to > >>> consume the classes. > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> Chris Tacke, eMVP > >>> Join the Embedded Developer Community > >>> http://community.opennetcf.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message > >>> news:uukPZVDPIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >>>> Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006 (refresh).msi > >>>> to take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application in VS2005 > >>>> and it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance package also > >>>> is all C#. > >>>> > >>>> While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the wrong > >>>> factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these bits? > >>>> > >>>> TIA > >>>> Harry > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > >
Thanks Chris,
I was just trying to look at the Mobile Client Software Factory and wondered why there was no VB.NET sample code even if it hit the C# DLLs within the solution. I'll continue to try to find some better documentation to enlighten myself with. I opened the new project |--Guidance Packages- |------Mobile Client Software- |----------Factory CAB Application |------Guidance Package Development- |----------Guidance Package Just wondering if there is a VB.NET new Composite UI Mobile Application project or is it only offered for C#? TIA Harry [quoted text, click to view] "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message news:ukc2tYDPIHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C# project in a > solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code files to a VB > project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend to consume the > classes. > > > -- > > Chris Tacke, eMVP > Join the Embedded Developer Community > http://community.opennetcf.com > > > > "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message > news:uukPZVDPIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006 (refresh).msi to >> take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application in VS2005 and >> it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance package also is all >> C#. >> >> While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the wrong >> factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these bits? >> >> TIA >> Harry >> > >
You're out of my area of knowledge. I know of the MCSF, but I've never felt
compelled to use them. I know the MS Press book of the CF (Wiggley, Foot and Moth) covers the MCSF, but I'm not sure if they cover VB (and I don't feel like walking to my bookshelf to look right now - sorry). -- Chris Tacke, eMVP Join the Embedded Developer Community http://community.opennetcf.com [quoted text, click to view] "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message news:OkLRipNPIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Thanks Chris, > > I was just trying to look at the Mobile Client Software Factory and > wondered why there was no VB.NET sample code even if it hit the C# DLLs > within the solution. I'll continue to try to find some better > documentation to enlighten myself with. > I opened the new project > |--Guidance Packages- > |------Mobile Client Software- > |----------Factory CAB Application > |------Guidance Package Development- > |----------Guidance Package > > Just wondering if there is a VB.NET new Composite UI Mobile Application > project or is it only offered for C#? > > TIA > Harry > > > > > "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message > news:ukc2tYDPIHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C# project in a >> solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code files to a >> VB project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend to consume >> the classes. >> >> >> -- >> >> Chris Tacke, eMVP >> Join the Embedded Developer Community >> http://community.opennetcf.com >> >> >> >> "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message >> news:uukPZVDPIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006 (refresh).msi to >>> take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application in VS2005 and >>> it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance package also is >>> all C#. >>> >>> While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the wrong >>> factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these bits? >>> >>> TIA >>> Harry >>> >> >> > >
LOL, that's why I like you Chris. you're honest! ;-) I've got the book in
front of me so save your steps. Their book is all C# code but the MCSF stuff may also just enable C# project creation as a guidance ext. in the ide now..... [quoted text, click to view] "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message news:%23SW291NPIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > You're out of my area of knowledge. I know of the MCSF, but I've never > felt compelled to use them. I know the MS Press book of the CF (Wiggley, > Foot and Moth) covers the MCSF, but I'm not sure if they cover VB (and I > don't feel like walking to my bookshelf to look right now - sorry). > > > -- > > Chris Tacke, eMVP > Join the Embedded Developer Community > http://community.opennetcf.com > > > "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message > news:OkLRipNPIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Thanks Chris, >> >> I was just trying to look at the Mobile Client Software Factory and >> wondered why there was no VB.NET sample code even if it hit the C# DLLs >> within the solution. I'll continue to try to find some better >> documentation to enlighten myself with. >> I opened the new project >> |--Guidance Packages- >> |------Mobile Client Software- >> |----------Factory CAB Application >> |------Guidance Package Development- >> |----------Guidance Package >> >> Just wondering if there is a VB.NET new Composite UI Mobile Application >> project or is it only offered for C#? >> >> TIA >> Harry >> >> >> >> >> "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message >> news:ukc2tYDPIHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C# project in a >>> solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code files to a >>> VB project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend to >>> consume the classes. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Chris Tacke, eMVP >>> Join the Embedded Developer Community >>> http://community.opennetcf.com >>> >>> >>> >>> "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message >>> news:uukPZVDPIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006 (refresh).msi >>>> to take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application in VS2005 >>>> and it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance package also >>>> is all C#. >>>> >>>> While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the wrong >>>> factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these bits? >>>> >>>> TIA >>>> Harry >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
And, if there's some assembly out there that you want to use and it's in C#,
you should be able to use it from VB.NET anyway. I find VB.NET to be somewhat less expressive (and quite a bit less flexible; no unsafe code), and a lot less logical in its syntax choices than C#. Just like any other situation, you need to be able to read multiple languages to really program effectively. P/Invoking is so important to doing so many things with the ..NET CF that you just about have to be able to read C, declarations at least, to get anything done, for example... Paul T. [quoted text, click to view] "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message news:uU7brXZPIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Dick Grier uses almost only VB.NET. I think the remainder of the MVPs (in > the mobile area anyway) use C# because it's simply what we like. Most of > us can read and write VB, we're just faster in C#, so that's what we use. > > > -- > > Chris Tacke, eMVP > Join the Embedded Developer Community > http://community.opennetcf.com > > > > "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message > news:uvMV6PZPIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Not to fire up the ol fires but why not in VB.NET too. Are there any >> MVPs still using VB.NET in device development? Is C# the defacto >> language now? Did I miss the memo? >> >> Thanks >> Harry >> >> "Simon Hart [MVP]" <srhartone@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:3193A5DF-B974-472A-A849-E05982FA3820@microsoft.com... >>> The Mobile Software Client Factory is all C# including all source and >>> demos. >>> If you really want it in VB.NET, you could use Reflector. >>> -- >>> Simon Hart >>> Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP >>> http://simonrhart.blogspot.com >>> >>> >>> "Harry Simpson" wrote: >>> >>>> LOL, that's why I like you Chris. you're honest! ;-) I've got the book >>>> in >>>> front of me so save your steps. >>>> Their book is all C# code but the MCSF stuff may also just enable C# >>>> project >>>> creation as a guidance ext. in the ide now..... >>>> >>>> "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message >>>> news:%23SW291NPIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> > You're out of my area of knowledge. I know of the MCSF, but I've >>>> > never >>>> > felt compelled to use them. I know the MS Press book of the CF >>>> > (Wiggley, >>>> > Foot and Moth) covers the MCSF, but I'm not sure if they cover VB >>>> > (and I >>>> > don't feel like walking to my bookshelf to look right now - sorry). >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > >>>> > Chris Tacke, eMVP >>>> > Join the Embedded Developer Community >>>> > http://community.opennetcf.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message >>>> > news:OkLRipNPIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> >> Thanks Chris, >>>> >> >>>> >> I was just trying to look at the Mobile Client Software Factory and >>>> >> wondered why there was no VB.NET sample code even if it hit the C# >>>> >> DLLs >>>> >> within the solution. I'll continue to try to find some better >>>> >> documentation to enlighten myself with. >>>> >> I opened the new project >>>> >> |--Guidance Packages- >>>> >> |------Mobile Client Software- >>>> >> |----------Factory CAB Application >>>> >> |------Guidance Package Development- >>>> >> |----------Guidance Package >>>> >> >>>> >> Just wondering if there is a VB.NET new Composite UI Mobile >>>> >> Application >>>> >> project or is it only offered for C#? >>>> >> >>>> >> TIA >>>> >> Harry >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message >>>> >> news:ukc2tYDPIHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> >>> VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C# project in >>>> >>> a >>>> >>> solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code files >>>> >>> to a >>>> >>> VB project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend to >>>> >>> consume the classes. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -- >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Chris Tacke, eMVP >>>> >>> Join the Embedded Developer Community >>>> >>> http://community.opennetcf.com >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message >>>> >>> news:uukPZVDPIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>> Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006 >>>> >>>> (refresh).msi >>>> >>>> to take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application in >>>> >>>> VS2005 >>>> >>>> and it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance package >>>> >>>> also >>>> >>>> is all C#. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the >>>> >>>> wrong >>>> >>>> factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these bits? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> TIA >>>> >>>> Harry >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> > >
Not to fire up the ol fires but why not in VB.NET too. Are there any MVPs
still using VB.NET in device development? Is C# the defacto language now? Did I miss the memo? Thanks Harry [quoted text, click to view] "Simon Hart [MVP]" <srhartone@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3193A5DF-B974-472A-A849-E05982FA3820@microsoft.com... > The Mobile Software Client Factory is all C# including all source and > demos. > If you really want it in VB.NET, you could use Reflector. > -- > Simon Hart > Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP > http://simonrhart.blogspot.com > > > "Harry Simpson" wrote: > >> LOL, that's why I like you Chris. you're honest! ;-) I've got the book >> in >> front of me so save your steps. >> Their book is all C# code but the MCSF stuff may also just enable C# >> project >> creation as a guidance ext. in the ide now..... >> >> "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message >> news:%23SW291NPIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> > You're out of my area of knowledge. I know of the MCSF, but I've never >> > felt compelled to use them. I know the MS Press book of the CF >> > (Wiggley, >> > Foot and Moth) covers the MCSF, but I'm not sure if they cover VB (and >> > I >> > don't feel like walking to my bookshelf to look right now - sorry). >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Chris Tacke, eMVP >> > Join the Embedded Developer Community >> > http://community.opennetcf.com >> > >> > >> > "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message >> > news:OkLRipNPIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> Thanks Chris, >> >> >> >> I was just trying to look at the Mobile Client Software Factory and >> >> wondered why there was no VB.NET sample code even if it hit the C# >> >> DLLs >> >> within the solution. I'll continue to try to find some better >> >> documentation to enlighten myself with. >> >> I opened the new project >> >> |--Guidance Packages- >> >> |------Mobile Client Software- >> >> |----------Factory CAB Application >> >> |------Guidance Package Development- >> >> |----------Guidance Package >> >> >> >> Just wondering if there is a VB.NET new Composite UI Mobile >> >> Application >> >> project or is it only offered for C#? >> >> >> >> TIA >> >> Harry >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message >> >> news:ukc2tYDPIHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >>> VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C# project in a >> >>> solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code files to >> >>> a >> >>> VB project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend to >> >>> consume the classes. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> >> >>> Chris Tacke, eMVP >> >>> Join the Embedded Developer Community >> >>> http://community.opennetcf.com >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message >> >>> news:uukPZVDPIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >>>> Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006 >> >>>> (refresh).msi >> >>>> to take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application in >> >>>> VS2005 >> >>>> and it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance package >> >>>> also >> >>>> is all C#. >> >>>> >> >>>> While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the wrong >> >>>> factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these bits? >> >>>> >> >>>> TIA >> >>>> Harry >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >>
Dick Grier uses almost only VB.NET. I think the remainder of the MVPs (in
the mobile area anyway) use C# because it's simply what we like. Most of us can read and write VB, we're just faster in C#, so that's what we use. -- Chris Tacke, eMVP Join the Embedded Developer Community http://community.opennetcf.com [quoted text, click to view] "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message news:uvMV6PZPIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Not to fire up the ol fires but why not in VB.NET too. Are there any MVPs > still using VB.NET in device development? Is C# the defacto language now? > Did I miss the memo? > > Thanks > Harry > > "Simon Hart [MVP]" <srhartone@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:3193A5DF-B974-472A-A849-E05982FA3820@microsoft.com... >> The Mobile Software Client Factory is all C# including all source and >> demos. >> If you really want it in VB.NET, you could use Reflector. >> -- >> Simon Hart >> Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP >> http://simonrhart.blogspot.com >> >> >> "Harry Simpson" wrote: >> >>> LOL, that's why I like you Chris. you're honest! ;-) I've got the book >>> in >>> front of me so save your steps. >>> Their book is all C# code but the MCSF stuff may also just enable C# >>> project >>> creation as a guidance ext. in the ide now..... >>> >>> "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message >>> news:%23SW291NPIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> > You're out of my area of knowledge. I know of the MCSF, but I've >>> > never >>> > felt compelled to use them. I know the MS Press book of the CF >>> > (Wiggley, >>> > Foot and Moth) covers the MCSF, but I'm not sure if they cover VB (and >>> > I >>> > don't feel like walking to my bookshelf to look right now - sorry). >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > >>> > Chris Tacke, eMVP >>> > Join the Embedded Developer Community >>> > http://community.opennetcf.com >>> > >>> > >>> > "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message >>> > news:OkLRipNPIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> >> Thanks Chris, >>> >> >>> >> I was just trying to look at the Mobile Client Software Factory and >>> >> wondered why there was no VB.NET sample code even if it hit the C# >>> >> DLLs >>> >> within the solution. I'll continue to try to find some better >>> >> documentation to enlighten myself with. >>> >> I opened the new project >>> >> |--Guidance Packages- >>> >> |------Mobile Client Software- >>> >> |----------Factory CAB Application >>> >> |------Guidance Package Development- >>> >> |----------Guidance Package >>> >> >>> >> Just wondering if there is a VB.NET new Composite UI Mobile >>> >> Application >>> >> project or is it only offered for C#? >>> >> >>> >> TIA >>> >> Harry >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message >>> >> news:ukc2tYDPIHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> >>> VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C# project in >>> >>> a >>> >>> solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code files >>> >>> to a >>> >>> VB project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend to >>> >>> consume the classes. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Tacke, eMVP >>> >>> Join the Embedded Developer Community >>> >>> http://community.opennetcf.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message >>> >>> news:uukPZVDPIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> >>>> Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006 >>> >>>> (refresh).msi >>> >>>> to take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application in >>> >>>> VS2005 >>> >>>> and it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance package >>> >>>> also >>> >>>> is all C#. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the >>> >>>> wrong >>> >>>> factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these bits? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> TIA >>> >>>> Harry >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> > >
It seems the industry is moving to C#, not sure why this is but it is
happening. We are hiring at the moment and every CV (resume) that lands on my desk contains C# and in some cases C# and VB.NET. So this tells me, many folks are including C# whether they are strong with it or not. Unless of course they generally are good with both. -- Simon Hart Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP http://simonrhart.blogspot.com [quoted text, click to view] "Harry Simpson" wrote:
> I agree that reading is critical but when I'm trying to wrap my brain around > a new concept or structure, it is easier to use the language I'm used to - > makes me wonder if my shop shouldn't switch to C# since as you've pointed > out, most have jumped to C#. > > Thanks > Harry > > "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT > com> wrote in message news:%23T09HwZPIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > And, if there's some assembly out there that you want to use and it's in > > C#, you should be able to use it from VB.NET anyway. I find VB.NET to be > > somewhat less expressive (and quite a bit less flexible; no unsafe code), > > and a lot less logical in its syntax choices than C#. Just like any other > > situation, you need to be able to read multiple languages to really > > program effectively. P/Invoking is so important to doing so many things > > with the .NET CF that you just about have to be able to read C, > > declarations at least, to get anything done, for example... > > > > Paul T. > > > > "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message > > news:uU7brXZPIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> Dick Grier uses almost only VB.NET. I think the remainder of the MVPs > >> (in the mobile area anyway) use C# because it's simply what we like. > >> Most of us can read and write VB, we're just faster in C#, so that's what > >> we use. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Chris Tacke, eMVP > >> Join the Embedded Developer Community > >> http://community.opennetcf.com > >> > >> > >> > >> "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message > >> news:uvMV6PZPIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >>> Not to fire up the ol fires but why not in VB.NET too. Are there any > >>> MVPs still using VB.NET in device development? Is C# the defacto > >>> language now? Did I miss the memo? > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> Harry > >>> > >>> "Simon Hart [MVP]" <srhartone@yahoo.com> wrote in message > >>> news:3193A5DF-B974-472A-A849-E05982FA3820@microsoft.com... > >>>> The Mobile Software Client Factory is all C# including all source and > >>>> demos. > >>>> If you really want it in VB.NET, you could use Reflector. > >>>> -- > >>>> Simon Hart > >>>> Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP > >>>> http://simonrhart.blogspot.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> "Harry Simpson" wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> LOL, that's why I like you Chris. you're honest! ;-) I've got the > >>>>> book in > >>>>> front of me so save your steps. > >>>>> Their book is all C# code but the MCSF stuff may also just enable C# > >>>>> project > >>>>> creation as a guidance ext. in the ide now..... > >>>>> > >>>>> "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message > >>>>> news:%23SW291NPIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >>>>> > You're out of my area of knowledge. I know of the MCSF, but I've > >>>>> > never > >>>>> > felt compelled to use them. I know the MS Press book of the CF > >>>>> > (Wiggley, > >>>>> > Foot and Moth) covers the MCSF, but I'm not sure if they cover VB > >>>>> > (and I > >>>>> > don't feel like walking to my bookshelf to look right now - sorry). > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > -- > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Chris Tacke, eMVP > >>>>> > Join the Embedded Developer Community > >>>>> > http://community.opennetcf.com > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message > >>>>> > news:OkLRipNPIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >>>>> >> Thanks Chris, > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> I was just trying to look at the Mobile Client Software Factory and > >>>>> >> wondered why there was no VB.NET sample code even if it hit the C# > >>>>> >> DLLs > >>>>> >> within the solution. I'll continue to try to find some better > >>>>> >> documentation to enlighten myself with. > >>>>> >> I opened the new project > >>>>> >> |--Guidance Packages- > >>>>> >> |------Mobile Client Software- > >>>>> >> |----------Factory CAB Application > >>>>> >> |------Guidance Package Development- > >>>>> >> |----------Guidance Package > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Just wondering if there is a VB.NET new Composite UI Mobile > >>>>> >> Application > >>>>> >> project or is it only offered for C#? > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> TIA > >>>>> >> Harry > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message > >>>>> >> news:ukc2tYDPIHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >>>>> >>> VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C# project > >>>>> >>> in a > >>>>> >>> solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code files > >>>>> >>> to a > >>>>> >>> VB project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend to > >>>>> >>> consume the classes. > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> -- > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> Chris Tacke, eMVP > >>>>> >>> Join the Embedded Developer Community > >>>>> >>> http://community.opennetcf.com > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message > >>>>> >>> news:uukPZVDPIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >>>>> >>>> Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006 > >>>>> >>>> (refresh).msi > >>>>> >>>> to take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application in > >>>>> >>>> VS2005 > >>>>> >>>> and it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance package > >>>>> >>>> also > >>>>> >>>> is all C#. > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>> While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the > >>>>> >>>> wrong > >>>>> >>>> factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these bits? > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>> TIA > >>>>> >>>> Harry > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > >
I agree that reading is critical but when I'm trying to wrap my brain around
a new concept or structure, it is easier to use the language I'm used to - makes me wonder if my shop shouldn't switch to C# since as you've pointed out, most have jumped to C#. Thanks Harry "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT [quoted text, click to view] com> wrote in message news:%23T09HwZPIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > And, if there's some assembly out there that you want to use and it's in > C#, you should be able to use it from VB.NET anyway. I find VB.NET to be > somewhat less expressive (and quite a bit less flexible; no unsafe code), > and a lot less logical in its syntax choices than C#. Just like any other > situation, you need to be able to read multiple languages to really > program effectively. P/Invoking is so important to doing so many things > with the .NET CF that you just about have to be able to read C, > declarations at least, to get anything done, for example... > > Paul T. > > "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message > news:uU7brXZPIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Dick Grier uses almost only VB.NET. I think the remainder of the MVPs >> (in the mobile area anyway) use C# because it's simply what we like. >> Most of us can read and write VB, we're just faster in C#, so that's what >> we use. >> >> >> -- >> >> Chris Tacke, eMVP >> Join the Embedded Developer Community >> http://community.opennetcf.com >> >> >> >> "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message >> news:uvMV6PZPIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Not to fire up the ol fires but why not in VB.NET too. Are there any >>> MVPs still using VB.NET in device development? Is C# the defacto >>> language now? Did I miss the memo? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Harry >>> >>> "Simon Hart [MVP]" <srhartone@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:3193A5DF-B974-472A-A849-E05982FA3820@microsoft.com... >>>> The Mobile Software Client Factory is all C# including all source and >>>> demos. >>>> If you really want it in VB.NET, you could use Reflector. >>>> -- >>>> Simon Hart >>>> Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP >>>> http://simonrhart.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> >>>> "Harry Simpson" wrote: >>>> >>>>> LOL, that's why I like you Chris. you're honest! ;-) I've got the >>>>> book in >>>>> front of me so save your steps. >>>>> Their book is all C# code but the MCSF stuff may also just enable C# >>>>> project >>>>> creation as a guidance ext. in the ide now..... >>>>> >>>>> "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message >>>>> news:%23SW291NPIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> > You're out of my area of knowledge. I know of the MCSF, but I've >>>>> > never >>>>> > felt compelled to use them. I know the MS Press book of the CF >>>>> > (Wiggley, >>>>> > Foot and Moth) covers the MCSF, but I'm not sure if they cover VB >>>>> > (and I >>>>> > don't feel like walking to my bookshelf to look right now - sorry). >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > >>>>> > Chris Tacke, eMVP >>>>> > Join the Embedded Developer Community >>>>> > http://community.opennetcf.com >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message >>>>> > news:OkLRipNPIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> >> Thanks Chris, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I was just trying to look at the Mobile Client Software Factory and >>>>> >> wondered why there was no VB.NET sample code even if it hit the C# >>>>> >> DLLs >>>>> >> within the solution. I'll continue to try to find some better >>>>> >> documentation to enlighten myself with. >>>>> >> I opened the new project >>>>> >> |--Guidance Packages- >>>>> >> |------Mobile Client Software- >>>>> >> |----------Factory CAB Application >>>>> >> |------Guidance Package Development- >>>>> >> |----------Guidance Package >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Just wondering if there is a VB.NET new Composite UI Mobile >>>>> >> Application >>>>> >> project or is it only offered for C#? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> TIA >>>>> >> Harry >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message >>>>> >> news:ukc2tYDPIHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> >>> VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C# project >>>>> >>> in a >>>>> >>> solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code files >>>>> >>> to a >>>>> >>> VB project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend to >>>>> >>> consume the classes. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> -- >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Chris Tacke, eMVP >>>>> >>> Join the Embedded Developer Community >>>>> >>> http://community.opennetcf.com >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message >>>>> >>> news:uukPZVDPIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> >>>> Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006 >>>>> >>>> (refresh).msi >>>>> >>>> to take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application in >>>>> >>>> VS2005 >>>>> >>>> and it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance package >>>>> >>>> also >>>>> >>>> is all C#. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the >>>>> >>>> wrong >>>>> >>>> factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these bits? >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> TIA >>>>> >>>> Harry >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Simon,
I think this may be more the case on the mobile side than the desktop. But as Chris says, the reason most of us use C# is that's what we know best. -- Ginny Caughey Device Application Development MVP [quoted text, click to view] "Simon Hart [MVP]" <srhartone@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:943FE2B6-9276-4CCE-9ED3-37807FBB2020@microsoft.com... > It seems the industry is moving to C#, not sure why this is but it is > happening. We are hiring at the moment and every CV (resume) that lands on > my > desk contains C# and in some cases C# and VB.NET. So this tells me, many > folks are including C# whether they are strong with it or not. Unless of > course they generally are good with both. > -- > Simon Hart > Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP > http://simonrhart.blogspot.com > > > "Harry Simpson" wrote: > >> I agree that reading is critical but when I'm trying to wrap my brain >> around >> a new concept or structure, it is easier to use the language I'm used >> to - >> makes me wonder if my shop shouldn't switch to C# since as you've pointed >> out, most have jumped to C#. >> >> Thanks >> Harry >> >> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <p space tobey no spam AT no instrument no spam >> DOT >> com> wrote in message news:%23T09HwZPIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> > And, if there's some assembly out there that you want to use and it's >> > in >> > C#, you should be able to use it from VB.NET anyway. I find VB.NET to >> > be >> > somewhat less expressive (and quite a bit less flexible; no unsafe >> > code), >> > and a lot less logical in its syntax choices than C#. Just like any >> > other >> > situation, you need to be able to read multiple languages to really >> > program effectively. P/Invoking is so important to doing so many >> > things >> > with the .NET CF that you just about have to be able to read C, >> > declarations at least, to get anything done, for example... >> > >> > Paul T. >> > >> > "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message >> > news:uU7brXZPIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> Dick Grier uses almost only VB.NET. I think the remainder of the MVPs >> >> (in the mobile area anyway) use C# because it's simply what we like. >> >> Most of us can read and write VB, we're just faster in C#, so that's >> >> what >> >> we use. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Chris Tacke, eMVP >> >> Join the Embedded Developer Community >> >> http://community.opennetcf.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message >> >> news:uvMV6PZPIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >>> Not to fire up the ol fires but why not in VB.NET too. Are there any >> >>> MVPs still using VB.NET in device development? Is C# the defacto >> >>> language now? Did I miss the memo? >> >>> >> >>> Thanks >> >>> Harry >> >>> >> >>> "Simon Hart [MVP]" <srhartone@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >>> news:3193A5DF-B974-472A-A849-E05982FA3820@microsoft.com... >> >>>> The Mobile Software Client Factory is all C# including all source >> >>>> and >> >>>> demos. >> >>>> If you really want it in VB.NET, you could use Reflector. >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Simon Hart >> >>>> Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP >> >>>> http://simonrhart.blogspot.com >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> "Harry Simpson" wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> LOL, that's why I like you Chris. you're honest! ;-) I've got the >> >>>>> book in >> >>>>> front of me so save your steps. >> >>>>> Their book is all C# code but the MCSF stuff may also just enable >> >>>>> C# >> >>>>> project >> >>>>> creation as a guidance ext. in the ide now..... >> >>>>> >> >>>>> "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message >> >>>>> news:%23SW291NPIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >>>>> > You're out of my area of knowledge. I know of the MCSF, but I've >> >>>>> > never >> >>>>> > felt compelled to use them. I know the MS Press book of the CF >> >>>>> > (Wiggley, >> >>>>> > Foot and Moth) covers the MCSF, but I'm not sure if they cover VB >> >>>>> > (and I >> >>>>> > don't feel like walking to my bookshelf to look right now - >> >>>>> > sorry). >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > -- >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > Chris Tacke, eMVP >> >>>>> > Join the Embedded Developer Community >> >>>>> > http://community.opennetcf.com >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message >> >>>>> > news:OkLRipNPIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >>>>> >> Thanks Chris, >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> I was just trying to look at the Mobile Client Software Factory >> >>>>> >> and >> >>>>> >> wondered why there was no VB.NET sample code even if it hit the >> >>>>> >> C# >> >>>>> >> DLLs >> >>>>> >> within the solution. I'll continue to try to find some better >> >>>>> >> documentation to enlighten myself with. >> >>>>> >> I opened the new project >> >>>>> >> |--Guidance Packages- >> >>>>> >> |------Mobile Client Software- >> >>>>> >> |----------Factory CAB Application >> >>>>> >> |------Guidance Package Development- >> >>>>> >> |----------Guidance Package >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> Just wondering if there is a VB.NET new Composite UI Mobile >> >>>>> >> Application >> >>>>> >> project or is it only offered for C#? >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> TIA >> >>>>> >> Harry >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[at]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message >> >>>>> >> news:ukc2tYDPIHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >>>>> >>> VB projects can consume C# assemblies just fine (so a C# >> >>>>> >>> project >> >>>>> >>> in a >> >>>>> >>> solution with VB projects works), you just can't add C# code >> >>>>> >>> files >> >>>>> >>> to a >> >>>>> >>> VB project. So the anser is that it depends on how you intend >> >>>>> >>> to >> >>>>> >>> consume the classes. >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> -- >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> Chris Tacke, eMVP >> >>>>> >>> Join the Embedded Developer Community >> >>>>> >>> http://community.opennetcf.com >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> "Harry Simpson" <harry.simpson@phgt.net> wrote in message >> >>>>> >>> news:uukPZVDPIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >>>>> >>>> Just installed Mobile Client Software Factory July 2006 >> >>>>> >>>> (refresh).msi >> >>>>> >>>> to take a look at it and created a new Mobile Cab Application >> >>>>> >>>> in >> >>>>> >>>> VS2005 >> >>>>> >>>> and it creates what appears to be a C# app. The Guidance >> >>>>> >>>> package >> >>>>> >>>> also >> >>>>> >>>> is all C#. >> >>>>> >>>> >> >>>>> >>>> While C# is a fine language, I use VB.NET. Did I download the >> >>>>> >>>> wrong >> >>>>> >>>> factory or can I still use VB.NET in combination with these >> >>>>> >>>> bits? >> >>>>> >>>> >> >>>>> >>>> TIA >> >>>>> >>>> Harry >> >>>>> >>>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> >
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