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When I create an application with VS .NET 2003 and it runs properly on that computer. And then I try to run it on an other computer I get an error at startup and the application is terminated. The error message follows: "The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135). Click on OK to teminate the applicaton." I searched on internet and found that I had to install the .NET Framework to run the application and it did work after the installation. My question is if i can build an application that doesn't need .NET Application to be installed. Professional programs also doesn't need it and it is not cool to install the .NET Framework every time I am on a computer that doesn't have it installed and want to run my application, especially when I am on a computer and I don't have administrator rights to install it. Thank you in advance.
No, .NET Framework applications require the .NET Framework.
[quoted text, click to view] "Boris Arkenaar" <barkenaar@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:066f01c3b79b$b5f1c340$a001280a@phx.gbl... > Hello, > > When I create an application with VS .NET 2003 and it > runs properly on that computer. And then I try to run it > on an other computer I get an error at startup and the > application is terminated. The error message follows: > "The application failed to initialize properly > (0xc0000135). Click on OK to teminate the applicaton." > I searched on internet and found that I had to install > the .NET Framework to run the application and it did work > after the installation. > > My question is if i can build an application that doesn't > need .NET Application to be installed. Professional > programs also doesn't need it and it is not cool to > install the .NET Framework every time I am on a computer > that doesn't have it installed and want to run my > application, especially when I am on a computer and I > don't have administrator rights to install it. > > Thank you in advance. > Boris
Can you then tell me how I can create a none .NET
Framework application? Or do I have to use an older verion of Visual Studio to build a none .NET Framework application? And maybey thats not worth it. Thank you in advance, Boris. [quoted text, click to view] >-----Original Message-----
>No, .NET Framework applications require the .NET Framework. > >"Boris Arkenaar" <barkenaar@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:066f01c3b79b$b5f1c340$a001280a@phx.gbl... >> Hello, >> >> When I create an application with VS .NET 2003 and it >> runs properly on that computer. And then I try to run it >> on an other computer I get an error at startup and the >> application is terminated. The error message follows: >> "The application failed to initialize properly >> (0xc0000135). Click on OK to teminate the applicaton." >> I searched on internet and found that I had to install >> the .NET Framework to run the application and it did work >> after the installation. >> >> My question is if i can build an application that doesn't >> need .NET Application to be installed. Professional >> programs also doesn't need it and it is not cool to >> install the .NET Framework every time I am on a computer >> that doesn't have it installed and want to run my >> application, especially when I am on a computer and I >> don't have administrator rights to install it. >> >> Thank you in advance. >> Boris > > >.
[quoted text, click to view] "Boris Arkenaar" <barkenaar@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:066f01c3b79b$b5f1c340$a001280a@phx.gbl... > Hello, > > When I create an application with VS .NET 2003 and it > runs properly on that computer. And then I try to run it > on an other computer I get an error at startup and the > application is terminated. The error message follows: > "The application failed to initialize properly > (0xc0000135). Click on OK to teminate the applicaton." > I searched on internet and found that I had to install > the .NET Framework to run the application and it did work > after the installation. > > My question is if i can build an application that doesn't > need .NET Application to be installed. Professional > programs also doesn't need it and it is not cool to > install the .NET Framework every time I am on a computer > that doesn't have it installed and want to run my > application, especially when I am on a computer and I > don't have administrator rights to install it. > > Thank you in advance. > Boris Hello, Boris. If you use the .NET languages (I'm referring to VB.NET and C# here), the target machine for your applications must have the .NET Framework installed. You can add the framework as part of your export package, so it installs automatically as part of your application, if necessary. You can develop C++ applications (using the Windows API or MFC) that do not require the .NET Framework. The requirement for the .NET Framework is not that different from that for a Java Virtual Machine on any computer that runs Java applications or applets. So, the need for supporting software on the target machine is not new, or unique to Microsoft. The .NET Framework will be part of future OS versions from Microsoft, IIRC. -- Peter - [MVP - .NET Academic]
Peter,
I just want to correct this since this is an academic forum. "If you use the .NET languages (I'm referring to VB.NET and C# here), the target machine for your applications must have the .NET Framework installed." If you write "managed code" you are required to have the .NET Framework installed. However you can write unmanaged code(C++ currently only unmanaged/managed language) that will run on target systems without the .NET Framework installed. I also believe you can write unmanaged VB code as well. Though I have yet to try this so don't quote me on it =]/ -Evan [quoted text, click to view] "Peter van der Goes" <p_vandergoes@mars.cox.net> wrote in message news:eySN0YBuDHA.2408@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > "Boris Arkenaar" <barkenaar@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:066f01c3b79b$b5f1c340$a001280a@phx.gbl... > > Hello, > > > > When I create an application with VS .NET 2003 and it > > runs properly on that computer. And then I try to run it > > on an other computer I get an error at startup and the > > application is terminated. The error message follows: > > "The application failed to initialize properly > > (0xc0000135). Click on OK to teminate the applicaton." > > I searched on internet and found that I had to install > > the .NET Framework to run the application and it did work > > after the installation. > > > > My question is if i can build an application that doesn't > > need .NET Application to be installed. Professional > > programs also doesn't need it and it is not cool to > > install the .NET Framework every time I am on a computer > > that doesn't have it installed and want to run my > > application, especially when I am on a computer and I > > don't have administrator rights to install it. > > > > Thank you in advance. > > Boris > > Hello, Boris. > If you use the .NET languages (I'm referring to VB.NET and C# here), the > target machine for your applications must have the .NET Framework installed. > You can add the framework as part of your export package, so it installs > automatically as part of your application, if necessary. You can develop C++ > applications (using the Windows API or MFC) that do not require the .NET > Framework. > The requirement for the .NET Framework is not that different from that for a > Java Virtual Machine on any computer that runs Java applications or applets. > So, the need for supporting software on the target machine is not new, or > unique to Microsoft. The .NET Framework will be part of future OS versions > from Microsoft, IIRC. > > -- > Peter - [MVP - .NET Academic] > >
[quoted text, click to view] "Evan Freeman[C++ Samuri]" <EvanEF@rcn.com> wrote in message Thanks Evan. I had no idea you could write unmanaged code in VB, and Inews:_MMzb.396$Mn.826@news-srv1.fmr.com... > Peter, > > I just want to correct this since this is an academic forum. > > "If you use the .NET languages (I'm referring to VB.NET and C# here), the > target machine for your applications must have the .NET Framework > installed." > > If you write "managed code" you are required to have the .NET Framework > installed. However you can write unmanaged code(C++ currently only > unmanaged/managed language) that will run on target systems without the ..NET > Framework installed. > > I also believe you can write unmanaged VB code as well. Though I have yet to > try this so don't quote me on it =]/ > > -Evan > should have used that term in my description to be more clear. Peter - [MVP - .NET Academic]
[quoted text, click to view] "Peter van der Goes" <p_vandergoes@mars.cox.net> wrote in message news:eOBycHzuDHA.2352@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> Thanks Evan. I had no idea you could write unmanaged code in VB, and I > should have used that term in my description to be more clear. > Peter - [MVP - .NET Academic] Isn't MS dropping VB over VB.NET? I'm sure the MCP exams are discontinued after June 2004. Ron
[quoted text, click to view] "Ron" <ron0079@aol.com> wrote in message Sorry if I was vague. In the context of the thread subject, I assumed VBnews:ukIcH4YvDHA.3744@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > > "Peter van der Goes" <p_vandergoes@mars.cox.net> wrote in message > news:eOBycHzuDHA.2352@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > >> Thanks Evan. I had no idea you could write unmanaged code in VB, and I > > should have used that term in my description to be more clear. > > Peter - [MVP - .NET Academic] > > Isn't MS dropping VB over VB.NET? I'm sure the MCP exams are discontinued > after June 2004. > > Ron > > would imply VB.NET. I believe that is what Evan meant as well. -- Peter - [MVP - .NET Academic]
Actually I mis-spoke myself. MS is discontinuing VB over VB.NET, which to a
VB expert, like myself, very unfortunate. You can still do "unmanaged" programming of VB with the VB6 compiler, and "managed" with the VB.NET compiler. My personal opinion is if you want to write managed code, then use c#. If you choose to use VB.NET and are an experienced VB programmer, be prepared for a learning curve as the language has changed quiet a bit. I think that MS should continue supporting unmanaged VB in the VS.NET IDE area, as they have with C++. But since MS owns VB I guess it's their choice. I also suppose since the .NET Framewrok will be included in future releases of the Windows OS, it is a moot point. But I still like being able to write code that is not dependent on a framework to be installed, also I have heard many complaints about running .NET applications on older versions of the Windows OS (i.e., Win98). Ahh well life goes on, and on, and on ...... -Evan [quoted text, click to view] "Peter van der Goes" <p_vandergoes@mars.cox.net> wrote in message news:#ufoFbZvDHA.1512@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > > "Ron" <ron0079@aol.com> wrote in message > news:ukIcH4YvDHA.3744@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > > > > "Peter van der Goes" <p_vandergoes@mars.cox.net> wrote in message > > news:eOBycHzuDHA.2352@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > > >> Thanks Evan. I had no idea you could write unmanaged code in VB, and I > > > should have used that term in my description to be more clear. > > > Peter - [MVP - .NET Academic] > > > > Isn't MS dropping VB over VB.NET? I'm sure the MCP exams are discontinued > > after June 2004. > > > > Ron > > > > > Sorry if I was vague. In the context of the thread subject, I assumed VB > would imply VB.NET. I believe that is what Evan meant as well. > > -- > Peter - [MVP - .NET Academic] > >
[quoted text, click to view] "Evan Freeman[C++ Samuri]" <EvanEF@rcn.com> wrote in message Ah. Thanks for the clarification, Evan.news:tHoBb.397$Mn.899@news-srv1.fmr.com... > Actually I mis-spoke myself. MS is discontinuing VB over VB.NET, which to a > VB expert, like myself, very unfortunate. You can still do "unmanaged" > programming of VB with the VB6 compiler, and "managed" with the VB.NET > compiler. > > My personal opinion is if you want to write managed code, then use c#. If > you choose to use VB.NET and are an experienced VB programmer, be prepared > for a learning curve as the language has changed quiet a bit. > > I think that MS should continue supporting unmanaged VB in the VS.NET IDE > area, as they have with C++. But since MS owns VB I guess it's their choice. > I also suppose since the .NET Framewrok will be included in future releases > of the Windows OS, it is a moot point. But I still like being able to write > code that is not dependent on a framework to be installed, also I have heard > many complaints about running .NET applications on older versions of the > Windows OS (i.e., Win98). Ahh well life goes on, and on, and on ...... > > -Evan > Now I'll admit to having misinterpreted your earlier comment, in addition to being vague in my reference. Are things getting more complicated, or am I just getting old :-)?
I think WE are just getting old. =]p
[quoted text, click to view] "Peter van der Goes" <p_vandergoes@mars.cox.net> wrote in message news:eB53w2tvDHA.2408@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > "Evan Freeman[C++ Samuri]" <EvanEF@rcn.com> wrote in message > news:tHoBb.397$Mn.899@news-srv1.fmr.com... > > Actually I mis-spoke myself. MS is discontinuing VB over VB.NET, which to > a > > VB expert, like myself, very unfortunate. You can still do "unmanaged" > > programming of VB with the VB6 compiler, and "managed" with the VB.NET > > compiler. > > > > My personal opinion is if you want to write managed code, then use c#. If > > you choose to use VB.NET and are an experienced VB programmer, be prepared > > for a learning curve as the language has changed quiet a bit. > > > > I think that MS should continue supporting unmanaged VB in the VS.NET IDE > > area, as they have with C++. But since MS owns VB I guess it's their > choice. > > I also suppose since the .NET Framewrok will be included in future > releases > > of the Windows OS, it is a moot point. But I still like being able to > write > > code that is not dependent on a framework to be installed, also I have > heard > > many complaints about running .NET applications on older versions of the > > Windows OS (i.e., Win98). Ahh well life goes on, and on, and on ...... > > > > -Evan > > > Ah. Thanks for the clarification, Evan. > Now I'll admit to having misinterpreted your earlier comment, in addition to > being vague in my reference. Are things getting more complicated, or am I > just getting old :-)? > >
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