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Joe
4/2/2004 2:38:58 PM
Aside from all the propaganda on what all VB.net is and does, could
anyone tell me or point me in the right direction on the major
differences between:

VB.Net Standard and the VB.Net that is within Visual Studio.Net

also the difference between:

Visual Studio.Net Professional and Visual Studio.Net Academic Version

I'm getting ready to take a college class on VB.Net for a Database
Design Certificate and wanted to buy the program. Other than price, I
never really understood what the differences were.


Thanks for your time,
Mack D. Male [MVP]
4/2/2004 5:51:04 PM
Hello Joe,
You can take a look at this link for information on the difference
between VB.NET Standard and Professional:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/howtobuy/choosing.aspx

This one will show you the comparison between Visual Studio versions:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/howtobuy/choosing.aspx

To my knowledge, Visual Studio (all editions) ship with VB.NET Professional.
Visual Studio .NET Academic is the same as Visual Studio .NET Professional,
except that it ships with extra Instructor and Student tools (and the
license is different).

Hope this helps!

Mack D. Male
MVP Visual Developer - Academic
http://www.mastermaq.net

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Aside from all the propaganda on what all VB.net is and does, could
anyone tell me or point me in the right direction on the major
differences between:

VB.Net Standard and the VB.Net that is within Visual Studio.Net

also the difference between:

Visual Studio.Net Professional and Visual Studio.Net Academic Version

I'm getting ready to take a college class on VB.Net for a Database
Design Certificate and wanted to buy the program. Other than price, I
never really understood what the differences were.


Thanks for your time,
Joe

Peter van der Goes
4/3/2004 7:36:41 AM

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Mack is absolutely correct about the relationship between Visual Studio .NET
Professional Edition and Visual Studio .NET Academic Edition with one
caveat. The Academic Edition does not support remote debugging.
As you are taking a college course, have you asked if the department
offering the course is a member of The Microsoft Developers Network Academic
Alliance (MSDNAA)? If they are, you should be able to obtain Visual Studio
..NET 2003 Professional Edition as no cost to you.. If they are not members,
you might want to get them to look into:

http://www.msdnaa.net


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Peter [MVP Academic]


Mack D. Male [MVP]
4/3/2004 4:01:04 PM
Cool, didn't realize that, thanks Peter!

Mack D. Male
MVP Visual Developer - Academic
http://www.mastermaq.net


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Joe
4/6/2004 12:14:21 AM
Thanks for the information. I spoke to my instructor this evening who
told me the school was not a member of the MSDNAA, and had no plans on
becoming a member. She also had never heard of it. I gave her the
website you passed me just in case she wanted to research it.

I also asked about the main differences between the VB.Net standard
verses the full Visual Studio.Net for purchase. Her opinion is that
Visual Studio is not needed unless I was going to program
professionally. The only difference between VB.Net Standard and the
VB.Net within Visual Studio is that you just have access to more tools
within the Visual Studio.

Thanks again for the info...
Joe


On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 07:36:41 -0600, "Peter van der Goes"
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Peter van der Goes
4/6/2004 8:53:52 AM

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Joe,
Not trying to "stir the pot" here, but as a faculty member, I can assure you
that if your instructor doesn't want to hear about MSDNAA, the Dean of the
department will. Sometimes things roll farther "downhill" :-)
I cannot speak for all colleges, but where I am, students certainly *do*
have a voice and are listened to (moreso than faculty, in many cases).
I would suggest that you and some of your classmates research MSDNAA, then
go to the Dean with your request, if your instructor shows no interest. The
cost to the department is $799 for the first year and $399 for annual
renewals after that. If you wish to use it, please feel free to show my web
page:

http://www.rose.edu/faculty/pvan/msdnaa.htm

and have someone from your school contact me from the link here:

http://www.rose.edu/faculty/pvan/index.htm

I'll be glad to tell them how successful we've been with MSDNAA and how much
our students appreciate the benefits of the program.


--
Peter [MVP Academic]

Steven H
4/6/2004 6:28:01 PM
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personally i would "encourage" your school to become a member of the
MSDNAA. Gather your fellow student programmers, attend a .netug (search for
a user group in your area) tell them the situation mabye some real
programmers breathing down the neck of your "instructor" could speed things
along.

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PLEASE!!!!! it makes me wonder what sort of instructor you have, somebody
who doesnt keep their head in the real world really isnt worth having IMHO.

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ffs - put some pressure on her, any *professional* educational
establishment worth their salt (or half a brain - you choose) needs to
equip their students with the tools that are needed in the real world.

dont give up, keep at her for something to happen.

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lol - sorry that just sounds like she doesent know what shes talking about.

the main diffrence between vb.net & vs professional (extra toys aside) is
that with vb.net all you get is the vb.net compiler. with vs professional
you get to play with vb.net, J#, C# & C++ (managed or not) compilers.

personally vs professional is worth the investment if you intend on coding
in anything other than vb.net

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Steven H - B.I.T. Otago Polytechnic, Dunedin, New Zealand
..net Geek

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inconsequentiality and degenerate to spell checking when their feeble mind
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