"Allen Anderson" <allen@sparkysystems.com> wrote in message
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> you can but you'd be writing a lot of custom code. You could also use
> remoting with SOAP formatter over http with singlecall (though this
> would not give you .asmx web services). Not exactly pure web services
> but fairly close and you can self host that. Seems like there is also
> a mini web server out there called Cassini that you can use. I'm not
> sure it would be a good idea to use that in production though.
>
> Allen Anderson
> http://www.glacialcomponents.com
> mailto: allen@put my website url here.com
>
>
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:00:17 -0600, "Gary Webb" <scurito@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Is it possible to host a .NET Web Service (managed code using the .NET
> >Framework 1.1) without IIS? I remember a website that indicated it was
> >possible to use a .NET Remoting server to host a Web Service. Could
client
> >code that consumes a Remoting *web service* be used interchangeably to
> >consume the same interface from a web service hosted in IIS?
> >
> >Gary
> >
>

"Dino Chiesa [Microsoft]" <dinoch@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:uToXZ9lXEHA.1684@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> yes, it is possible to host ASMX without IIS.
> There is the Cassini project, which is a low-feature host for ASP.NET,
> written in C#.
> It is shared source. Learn more on www.asp.net. It is suited for
> development and test, not production.
> Cassini was produced to support the "Web Matrix" tool, a easy-to-use, free
> dev tool for asp.net. The idea was, you'd be able to use Web Matrix to
> build apps, and Cassini to host them diring development.
>
>
> It is possible to host the ASP.NET runtime in any app. For example some
> people host ASP.NET runtime within WinForms apps, so those WinForms apps
can
> actually act as webservices SERVERS. The WinForms app might also be a
> client. Maybe supporting a peer-to-peer webservices architecture.
>
> Here's an article exploring that angle
>
http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/msdn/community/columns/desmet/hostaspnet1.mspx
>
> This is basically what Cassini does.
>
> ps: In the Visual Web Developer 2005 Express edition, there is another
host
> for asp.net.
> You can try out the beta by going here:
> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/vwd/default.aspx
>
> Allen is correct that hosting the SOAP Formatter in remoting is NOT asmx
and
> will NOT give you the same interface. It will give you SOAP, though, so I
> would not say "Not exactly pure web services." It is web services, just
a
> bit more complex to develop.
>
> -D
>
> "Allen Anderson" <allen@sparkysystems.com> wrote in message
> news:kq8nd0hp120ksvt2uj3n2tu3k67qh0bik3@4ax.com...
> > you can but you'd be writing a lot of custom code. You could also use
> > remoting with SOAP formatter over http with singlecall (though this
> > would not give you .asmx web services). Not exactly pure web services
> > but fairly close and you can self host that. Seems like there is also
> > a mini web server out there called Cassini that you can use. I'm not
> > sure it would be a good idea to use that in production though.
> >
> > Allen Anderson
> > http://www.glacialcomponents.com
> > mailto: allen@put my website url here.com
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:00:17 -0600, "Gary Webb" <scurito@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Is it possible to host a .NET Web Service (managed code using the .NET
> > >Framework 1.1) without IIS? I remember a website that indicated it was
> > >possible to use a .NET Remoting server to host a Web Service. Could
> client
> > >code that consumes a Remoting *web service* be used interchangeably to
> > >consume the same interface from a web service hosted in IIS?
> > >
> > >Gary
> > >
> >
>
>

"David Hoffer" <dahofferremove.remove@iserv.remove.net> wrote in message
news:OPp5fyWYEHA.840@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> I have some questions about this thread...
>
> What is an asmx web service? How is this different than a regular web
> service?
>
> I am new to Web Services. I want to partition my NET Windows Forms
> applications so that the data layer (SQL MSDE) is accessed through a web
> service API. My clients are all Forms apps so I have no need for ASP.
Some
> of my systems are XP Pro (no issue) but some are XP Home and 98SE. The
> later do not have IIS. How can I write one code base that works for all
> platforms? 90% of systems run all tiers on a single system.
>
> I may be able to require that users that desire a distributed solution use
> XP Pro (or Home) as the server but the same code must work on 98SE on a
> single box.
>
> What is the best way to do this?
>
> -dh
>
>
> "Dino Chiesa [Microsoft]" <dinoch@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:uToXZ9lXEHA.1684@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > yes, it is possible to host ASMX without IIS.
> > There is the Cassini project, which is a low-feature host for ASP.NET,
> > written in C#.
> > It is shared source. Learn more on www.asp.net. It is suited for
> > development and test, not production.
> > Cassini was produced to support the "Web Matrix" tool, a easy-to-use,
free
> > dev tool for asp.net. The idea was, you'd be able to use Web Matrix to
> > build apps, and Cassini to host them diring development.
> >
> >
> > It is possible to host the ASP.NET runtime in any app. For example some
> > people host ASP.NET runtime within WinForms apps, so those WinForms apps
> can
> > actually act as webservices SERVERS. The WinForms app might also be a
> > client. Maybe supporting a peer-to-peer webservices architecture.
> >
> > Here's an article exploring that angle
> >
>
http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/msdn/community/columns/desmet/hostaspnet1.mspx
> >
> > This is basically what Cassini does.
> >
> > ps: In the Visual Web Developer 2005 Express edition, there is another
> host
> > for asp.net.
> > You can try out the beta by going here:
> > http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/vwd/default.aspx
> >
> > Allen is correct that hosting the SOAP Formatter in remoting is NOT asmx
> and
> > will NOT give you the same interface. It will give you SOAP, though, so
I
> > would not say "Not exactly pure web services." It is web services,
just
> a
> > bit more complex to develop.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > "Allen Anderson" <allen@sparkysystems.com> wrote in message
> > news:kq8nd0hp120ksvt2uj3n2tu3k67qh0bik3@4ax.com...
> > > you can but you'd be writing a lot of custom code. You could also use
> > > remoting with SOAP formatter over http with singlecall (though this
> > > would not give you .asmx web services). Not exactly pure web services
> > > but fairly close and you can self host that. Seems like there is also
> > > a mini web server out there called Cassini that you can use. I'm not
> > > sure it would be a good idea to use that in production though.
> > >
> > > Allen Anderson
> > > http://www.glacialcomponents.com
> > > mailto: allen@put my website url here.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:00:17 -0600, "Gary Webb" <scurito@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Is it possible to host a .NET Web Service (managed code using the
..NET
> > > >Framework 1.1) without IIS? I remember a website that indicated it
was
> > > >possible to use a .NET Remoting server to host a Web Service. Could
> > client
> > > >code that consumes a Remoting *web service* be used interchangeably
to
> > > >consume the same interface from a web service hosted in IIS?
> > > >
> > > >Gary
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

"David Hoffer" <dahofferremove.remove@iserv.remove.net> wrote in message
news:OURaR1WYEHA.1000@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> ...additional information.
>
> I have no need for Web Service method discovery and publishing. I know
the
> API I am calling and it is not public for others to call.
>
> -dh
>
> "David Hoffer" <dahofferremove.remove@iserv.remove.net> wrote in message
> news:OPp5fyWYEHA.840@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > I have some questions about this thread...
> >
> > What is an asmx web service? How is this different than a regular web
> > service?
> >
> > I am new to Web Services. I want to partition my NET Windows Forms
> > applications so that the data layer (SQL MSDE) is accessed through a web
> > service API. My clients are all Forms apps so I have no need for ASP.
> Some
> > of my systems are XP Pro (no issue) but some are XP Home and 98SE. The
> > later do not have IIS. How can I write one code base that works for all
> > platforms? 90% of systems run all tiers on a single system.
> >
> > I may be able to require that users that desire a distributed solution
use
> > XP Pro (or Home) as the server but the same code must work on 98SE on a
> > single box.
> >
> > What is the best way to do this?
> >
> > -dh
> >
> >
> > "Dino Chiesa [Microsoft]" <dinoch@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:uToXZ9lXEHA.1684@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > yes, it is possible to host ASMX without IIS.
> > > There is the Cassini project, which is a low-feature host for ASP.NET,
> > > written in C#.
> > > It is shared source. Learn more on www.asp.net. It is suited for
> > > development and test, not production.
> > > Cassini was produced to support the "Web Matrix" tool, a easy-to-use,
> free
> > > dev tool for asp.net. The idea was, you'd be able to use Web Matrix
to
> > > build apps, and Cassini to host them diring development.
> > >
> > >
> > > It is possible to host the ASP.NET runtime in any app. For example
some
> > > people host ASP.NET runtime within WinForms apps, so those WinForms
apps
> > can
> > > actually act as webservices SERVERS. The WinForms app might also be
a
> > > client. Maybe supporting a peer-to-peer webservices architecture.
> > >
> > > Here's an article exploring that angle
> > >
> >
>
http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/msdn/community/columns/desmet/hostaspnet1.mspx
> > >
> > > This is basically what Cassini does.
> > >
> > > ps: In the Visual Web Developer 2005 Express edition, there is
another
> > host
> > > for asp.net.
> > > You can try out the beta by going here:
> > > http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/vwd/default.aspx
> > >
> > > Allen is correct that hosting the SOAP Formatter in remoting is NOT
asmx
> > and
> > > will NOT give you the same interface. It will give you SOAP, though,
so
> I
> > > would not say "Not exactly pure web services." It is web services,
> just
> > a
> > > bit more complex to develop.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > > "Allen Anderson" <allen@sparkysystems.com> wrote in message
> > > news:kq8nd0hp120ksvt2uj3n2tu3k67qh0bik3@4ax.com...
> > > > you can but you'd be writing a lot of custom code. You could also
use
> > > > remoting with SOAP formatter over http with singlecall (though this
> > > > would not give you .asmx web services). Not exactly pure web
services
> > > > but fairly close and you can self host that. Seems like there is
also
> > > > a mini web server out there called Cassini that you can use. I'm
not
> > > > sure it would be a good idea to use that in production though.
> > > >
> > > > Allen Anderson
> > > > http://www.glacialcomponents.com
> > > > mailto: allen@put my website url here.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:00:17 -0600, "Gary Webb"
<scurito@hotmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Is it possible to host a .NET Web Service (managed code using the
> .NET
> > > > >Framework 1.1) without IIS? I remember a website that indicated it
> was
> > > > >possible to use a .NET Remoting server to host a Web Service.
Could
> > > client
> > > > >code that consumes a Remoting *web service* be used interchangeably
> to
> > > > >consume the same interface from a web service hosted in IIS?
> > > > >
> > > > >Gary
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>