Hi,

I'm a recent new user to this site so excuse me if any of these=
observations are incorrect=2E Also, I apologise if this is the=
wrong forum for this post - I couldn't find a more appropriate=
one=2E I have found the following problems:

1) I have to log on every visit despite checking the "remember=
me" checkbox=2E I have cookies enabled=2E

2) I am not notified of replies to my messages even though I=
opted to=2E

3) Quite often my messages aren't even posted and certainly=
aren't up after the specified 24 hours=2E I am going to re-post=
this one once a day until it appears=2E

4) For the life of me, I can't figure out how to see all the=
recent posts for a specific forum=2E Clicking on a specific=
discussion group (eg=2E 'microsoft=2Epublic=2Edotnet=2Egeneral') shows a=
list of recent posts to that group=2E As soon as your message is=
no longer recent, it appears to be unavailable (or, at least,=
not linked) until next month when it becomes part of the=
archives=2E

5) I lost my session in the time it took to write this message=2E=
Luckily, I had it saved =2E =2E =2E

If anyone can shed some light on these issues I'd be grateful=2E=
It's a great site otherwise=2E

Regards,
Kent

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Posted by a user from =2ENET 247 (http://www=2Edotnet247=2Ecom/)

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The problem is the interface you are posting through. Instead of using
dotnet247, which obviously has problems based on your comments, you can use
a newsreader such as Outlook Express or Forte Agent. Set your news server
as msnews.microsoft.com, no ID or password required. This group
(microsoft.public.dotnet.general) along with all of the microsoft.public
newsgroups hosted on msnews.microsoft.com will be available to you.
--
Tom Porterfield
MS-MVP MCE
http://support.telop.org

Please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup only.

Hi Kent,

You are posting now to a Microsoft newsserver.

That can be reached by a lot of ways, a lot of people use Outlook Expres,
others as you use bulletin boards which have connections to that.

However when you have complaints using a bulletingboard it it better to
complaint to the ones who manage the bulleting board, with that they can
improve their service.

Using OE the messages stay 2 months, when you do a Google newsgroup search
it seems they stay forever.

I hope this helps?

Cor

Cor,

Look at this name tag and the bit below his signature; he's posting through
..NET 247 (http://www.dotnet247.com/)

--
Carsten Thomsen
Enterprise Development with VS .NET, UML, and MSF
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=105
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I said nothing about them shutting down their service. How have they made
Microsoft more open to the public?

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Is providing a poor interface really promoting Microsoft? Not that I care
as I am not concerned about promoting Microsoft. It's not what I do nor
what I am interested in. Rather I am interested in folks finding answers to
their technical questions. Based on the problems with the net247 interface
into these newsgroups, it doesn't sound to me (nor look as I went to their
web site and checked) that they are currently able to do that.

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Again, I have no interest in killing anyone's service. If that service is
deficient in ways that make it difficult to find answers to questions, then
I will offer solutions to that problem. A full featured windows application
such as a newsreader offers greater flexibility and functionality than a web
interface into these newsgroups. Since the OP was having problems with the
web interface, suggesting that they try a newsreader application instead is
very much a viable alternative.

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I am not going to use, or promote or suggest, a service that is not useful.
Folks come here to find answers. I wish the folks at net247 well, but I
can't recommend people continue to use something that is not yet useful.
--
Tom Porterfield
MS-MVP MCE
http://support.telop.org

Please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup only.

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Using a "real" newsreader is almost always going to be preferable to
browsing newsgroups with a web browser.

I have no beef with DotNet247 (far from it), but anyone who *can* use a
newsreader instead is likely to get a better experience.

To put it another way: why do you want to stop people from improving a
user's experience by suggesting the optimal way of reading newsgroups?

--
Jon Skeet - <skeet@pobox.com>
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet

Hi Tom,

Why should you want the people from dotNET 247 give the idea shutting down
their new service they just have openend to make Microsoft more open to the
public.

They are doing a good job in promoting Microsoft however they just started
so they have to improve.

Why do you want to kill that with this kind of mesages?

It is better to help them to make their service better.

However just my thought about that.

Cor

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Hi Jon,

That is your own opinion which we share by the way, there are a lot of
people who prefer to use a Webbrowserconnection. I can give you some why's,
however I think it is better not to do that.

I think it is not the task of this newsgroup to tell people not to use
products from people who promote Microsoft because our own opinion is that
the method we use is better.

I have pointed the OP in the first message on Outlook Express, however I
have not said that it is better.

Cor

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Any "telling" people what to use or not to use can only ever be a
suggestion in newsgroups - it's not like any of us can actually force
anyone to use a particular access medium.

Tom gave a perfectly good alternative to using a method of posting
which the OP was clearly finding problematic. I don't see anything
wrong with that.

--
Jon Skeet - <skeet@pobox.com>
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet

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Indeed - and I'm fine with your point about explicitly just giving a
suggestion rather than "telling" users is better. I don't think that's
anything to do with .NET 247 supporting MS though - it's more of a
general politeness thing.

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I think it's perfectly reasonable to strongly recommend using a real
newsreader instead though, where possible. I would prefer a
recommendation to a "do this" post, but I still don't think your reply
to Tom was called for.

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Sure, and that's fine.

--
Jon Skeet - <skeet@pobox.com>
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet

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That did I already 4 hours earlier, however I did not write as Tom did.

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dotnet247, which obviously has problems based on your comments

That is the difference, I see not any need for that and than telling to take
another product.

The alternative is by the way bad when you are behind a corperate firewall
where OE is not allowed.

Cor