"James S" <nospam@noSpam.comSpam> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> With DotNet having been around for a while, are there any good resources
> that detail what the uptake of the framework has been for Windows
> Application development? For example is DotNet anywhere near replacing
> Win32 development? Or is Win32 development still leading the way?
>
> The other question is, how many desktop machines actually have the
> framework installed?
>
> If anyone knows of any good resources of where it is possible to find out
> such information, it would be much appreciated.

> Hi SP,
>
> I suppose its mainly a development decision question. For instance, is the
> majority of Windows Desktop development still using traditional tools and
> the Win32 API, or is a significant amount (does anybody know of any
> estimates?) now carried out using .net?
>
> An estimate of the % of machines that have the framework installed would
> be interesting, as one would assume that this would also help to indicate
> how much development is going in in .net. e.g. if only 20% of machines
> have the framework installed, then it would seem like the uptake is still
> quite low.

"SP" <ecneserpegats@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "James S" <nospam@noSpam.comSpam> wrote in message
> news:UYSZf.1518$8Q3.348@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> Hi,
>>
>> With DotNet having been around for a while, are there any good resources
>> that detail what the uptake of the framework has been for Windows
>> Application development? For example is DotNet anywhere near replacing
>> Win32 development? Or is Win32 development still leading the way?
>>
>> The other question is, how many desktop machines actually have the
>> framework installed?
>>
>> If anyone knows of any good resources of where it is possible to find out
>> such information, it would be much appreciated.
>
> Is this a question relating to a development decision or are you just
> curious to get some figure that says X% of Windows computers have the
> version Y of the .Net framework installed?
>
> SP
>

"SP" <ecneserpegats@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Hi SP,
>>
>> I suppose its mainly a development decision question. For instance, is
>> the majority of Windows Desktop development still using traditional tools
>> and the Win32 API, or is a significant amount (does anybody know of any
>> estimates?) now carried out using .net?
>>
>> An estimate of the % of machines that have the framework installed would
>> be interesting, as one would assume that this would also help to indicate
>> how much development is going in in .net. e.g. if only 20% of machines
>> have the framework installed, then it would seem like the uptake is still
>> quite low.
>
> If you develop using the .Net framework then you are going to come across
> machines that do not have the framework already installed (with the
> version you require). So the framework becomes the part of your
> installation requirements. If this is not acceptable then you should stick
> with Win32 development. I came from a VB background so installing runtime
> files was something I always had to deal with. The .Net framework made
> deployment easier.
>
> HTH
>
> SP
>

> I guess the crux of my question is, how successful has Microsoft's .net
> been at being accepted by the community that develops Windows Desktop
> Applications? I remember reading a long time ago that .net is the way of
> the future and the core of Windows will revolve around the technology. -
> this was when 1.0 was being released.
>
> But as I search through the newsgroups etc, I see that there appears to be
> a lot of developers still against the the .net technology, and it is even
> cited that Microsoft has gotten cold feet over .net, with there being less
> .net technology built into Vista than originally planned.
>
> On one side you have the anti .net people ranting, and on the other there
> is the Microsoft marketing machine telling us all how good .net is. Rather
> than read the opinions of the respective sides, I'd like to see what the
> actual state of play is so far in terms of a rough % of the win32/.net
> development split, and how many machines are estimated to have the
> framework(s) installed.
>
> So far trying to get an idea of this information appears to be difficult
> to come accross.