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I've got a very simple WinForms C# app that the form's Localizable property is set to true. When you press a button it merely calls MessageBox.Show("Hello World!"). I now have a dedicated test system installed w/ German Win2K and the redistributable .NET 1.1 framework (supposedly in German from the MS web site). When I run this app, the MessageBox button labels still say "OK" and "Cancel", why are they not in German? What must I do to effect such behavior? Since MessageBox is a System.Windows.Forms object, I have no control over it's button labels, only the message and the title passed in. TIA, -- John C. Bowman Software Engineer Thermo Electron Scientific Instruments Div. <Remove this before reply> john.bowman@thermo.com
This call is a wrapper around the message boxx provided by the operating
system, so only a German OS would be expected to show German strings.... -- MichKa [MS] NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies Windows International Division This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote in message news:OQdguKDvEHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Hi, > > I've got a very simple WinForms C# app that the form's Localizable property > is set to true. When you press a button it merely calls > MessageBox.Show("Hello World!"). I now have a dedicated test system > installed w/ German Win2K and the redistributable .NET 1.1 framework > (supposedly in German from the MS web site). When I run this app, the > MessageBox button labels still say "OK" and "Cancel", why are they not in > German? What must I do to effect such behavior? Since MessageBox is a > System.Windows.Forms object, I have no control over it's button labels, only > the message and the title passed in. > > TIA, > > -- > John C. Bowman > Software Engineer > Thermo Electron Scientific Instruments Div. > <Remove this before reply> john.bowman@thermo.com > >
Micheal,
Yes I know that. I'm running it on truly German Windows, but the buttons on the MessageBox still shown in English. How do you fix that? John "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:u9vn3$EvEHA.2016@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > This call is a wrapper around the message boxx provided by the operating > system, so only a German OS would be expected to show German strings.... > > > -- > MichKa [MS] > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies > Windows International Division > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with > no warranties, and confers no rights. > > > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote in > message news:OQdguKDvEHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >> Hi, >> >> I've got a very simple WinForms C# app that the form's Localizable > property >> is set to true. When you press a button it merely calls >> MessageBox.Show("Hello World!"). I now have a dedicated test system >> installed w/ German Win2K and the redistributable .NET 1.1 framework >> (supposedly in German from the MS web site). When I run this app, the >> MessageBox button labels still say "OK" and "Cancel", why are they not in >> German? What must I do to effect such behavior? Since MessageBox is a >> System.Windows.Forms object, I have no control over it's button labels, > only >> the message and the title passed in. >> >> TIA, >> >> -- >> John C. Bowman >> Software Engineer >> Thermo Electron Scientific Instruments Div. >> <Remove this before reply> john.bowman@thermo.com >> >> > >
Do you have more than one UI language on the system? If so then you must
have the properly set UICulture to see the appropriate results.... -- MichKa [MS] NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies Windows International Division This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote in message news:e4uh$RGvEHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Micheal, > > Yes I know that. I'm running it on truly German Windows, but the buttons on > the MessageBox still shown in English. How do you fix that? > > John > > "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in > message news:u9vn3$EvEHA.2016@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > > This call is a wrapper around the message boxx provided by the operating > > system, so only a German OS would be expected to show German strings.... > > > > > > -- > > MichKa [MS] > > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead > > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies > > Windows International Division > > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with > > no warranties, and confers no rights. > > > > > > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote in > > message news:OQdguKDvEHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > >> Hi, > >> > >> I've got a very simple WinForms C# app that the form's Localizable > > property > >> is set to true. When you press a button it merely calls > >> MessageBox.Show("Hello World!"). I now have a dedicated test system > >> installed w/ German Win2K and the redistributable .NET 1.1 framework > >> (supposedly in German from the MS web site). When I run this app, the > >> MessageBox button labels still say "OK" and "Cancel", why are they not in > >> German? What must I do to effect such behavior? Since MessageBox is a > >> System.Windows.Forms object, I have no control over it's button labels, > > only > >> the message and the title passed in. > >> > >> TIA, > >> > >> -- > >> John C. Bowman > >> Software Engineer > >> Thermo Electron Scientific Instruments Div. > >> <Remove this before reply> john.bowman@thermo.com > >> > >> > > > > > >
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C4BCB7.D96F8CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael, The System is running true German windows, as this is what was = installed... NOT English windows w/ changed regional settings. The code = does nothing special. Here's the 1 line of code in the Button1_Click = event handler that puts up the MessageBox: MessageBox.Show(Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentUICulture.Name + "\n" + = Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentCulture.Name); When this MessageBox appears, the OK button says: OK, instead of the = German equivalent and the message itself indicates "de-DE" and "de-DE" = respectively so the program's thread's UI culture is correct. John "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in = message news:u8DYewHvEHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Do you have more than one UI language on the system? If so then you = ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C4BCB7.D96F8CE0must > have the properly set UICulture to see the appropriate results.... >=20 >=20 > --=20 > MichKa [MS] > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies > Windows International Division >=20 > This posting is provided "AS IS" with > no warranties, and confers no rights. >=20 >=20 > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> = wrote in > message news:e4uh$RGvEHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> Micheal, >> >> Yes I know that. I'm running it on truly German Windows, but the = buttons > on >> the MessageBox still shown in English. How do you fix that? >> >> John >> >> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote = in >> message news:u9vn3$EvEHA.2016@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> > This call is a wrapper around the message boxx provided by the = operating >> > system, so only a German OS would be expected to show German = strings.... >> > >> > >> > --=20 >> > MichKa [MS] >> > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >> > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies >> > Windows International Division >> > >> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with >> > no warranties, and confers no rights. >> > >> > >> > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> = wrote > in >> > message news:OQdguKDvEHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I've got a very simple WinForms C# app that the form's Localizable >> > property >> >> is set to true. When you press a button it merely calls >> >> MessageBox.Show("Hello World!"). I now have a dedicated test = system >> >> installed w/ German Win2K and the redistributable .NET 1.1 = framework >> >> (supposedly in German from the MS web site). When I run this app, = the >> >> MessageBox button labels still say "OK" and "Cancel", why are they = not > in >> >> German? What must I do to effect such behavior? Since MessageBox = is a >> >> System.Windows.Forms object, I have no control over it's button = labels, >> > only >> >> the message and the title passed in. >> >> >> >> TIA, >> >> >> >> --=20 >> >> John C. Bowman >> >> Software Engineer >> >> Thermo Electron Scientific Instruments Div. >> >> <Remove this before reply> john.bowman@thermo.com >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >=20 > Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Michael,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The System is running true German = windows, as this=20 is what was installed... NOT English windows w/ changed regional = settings. The=20 code does nothing special. Here's the 1 line of code in the = Button1_Click event=20 handler that puts up the MessageBox:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> <P><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>MessageBox.Show(Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentUICulture.Name + = "\n" +=20 </FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentCulture.Name);</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When this MessageBox appears, the OK = button says:=20 OK, instead of the German equivalent and the message itself = indicates=20 "de-DE" and "de-DE" respectively so the program's thread's UI culture is = correct.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John</FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" = <</FONT><A=20 href=3D"mailto:michkap@online.microsoft.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>michkap@online.microsoft.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>> wrote=20 in message </FONT><A = href=3D"news:u8DYewHvEHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl"><FONT=20 face=3DArial = size=3D2>news:u8DYewHvEHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl</FONT></A><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> = Do you have more=20 than one UI language on the system? If so then you must<BR>> have the = properly set UICulture to see the appropriate results....<BR>> = <BR>>=20 <BR>> -- <BR>> MichKa [MS]<BR>> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard = Technical=20 Lead<BR>> Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies<BR>> = Windows=20 International Division<BR>> <BR>> This posting is provided "AS IS" = with<BR>> no warranties, and confers no rights.<BR>> <BR>> = <BR>>=20 "John Bowman </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:john.bowman@thermo.com"><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>john.bowman@thermo.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>>"=20 <<Remove this before reply> wrote in<BR>> message </FONT><A=20 href=3D"news:e4uh$RGvEHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl"><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>news:e4uh$RGvEHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl</FONT></A><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>...<BR>>> Micheal,<BR>>><BR>>> Yes I know = that. I'm=20 running it on truly German Windows, but the buttons<BR>> = on<BR>>> the=20 MessageBox still shown in English. How do you fix = that?<BR>>><BR>>>=20 John<BR>>><BR>>> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" = <</FONT><A=20 href=3D"mailto:michkap@online.microsoft.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>michkap@online.microsoft.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>> wrote=20 in<BR>>> message </FONT><A=20 href=3D"news:u9vn3$EvEHA.2016@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl"><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>news:u9vn3$EvEHA.2016@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl</FONT></A><FONT = face=3DArial=20
Ok, I am very confused now.
You have German Windows and German .NET framework, yet you are still getting English strings? -- MichKa [MS] NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies Windows International Division This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote in message news:#mcwDHOvEHA.2172@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... Michael, The System is running true German windows, as this is what was installed... NOT English windows w/ changed regional settings. The code does nothing special. Here's the 1 line of code in the Button1_Click event handler that puts up the MessageBox: MessageBox.Show(Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentUICulture.Name + "\n" + Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentCulture.Name); When this MessageBox appears, the OK button says: OK, instead of the German equivalent and the message itself indicates "de-DE" and "de-DE" respectively so the program's thread's UI culture is correct. John "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:u8DYewHvEHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Do you have more than one UI language on the system? If so then you must > have the properly set UICulture to see the appropriate results.... > > > -- > MichKa [MS] > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies > Windows International Division > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with > no warranties, and confers no rights. > > > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote in > message news:e4uh$RGvEHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> Micheal, >> >> Yes I know that. I'm running it on truly German Windows, but the buttons > on >> the MessageBox still shown in English. How do you fix that? >> >> John >> >> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in >> message news:u9vn3$EvEHA.2016@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> > This call is a wrapper around the message boxx provided by the operating >> > system, so only a German OS would be expected to show German strings.... >> > >> > >> > -- >> > MichKa [MS] >> > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >> > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies >> > Windows International Division >> > >> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with >> > no warranties, and confers no rights. >> > >> > >> > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote > in >> > message news:OQdguKDvEHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I've got a very simple WinForms C# app that the form's Localizable >> > property >> >> is set to true. When you press a button it merely calls >> >> MessageBox.Show("Hello World!"). I now have a dedicated test system >> >> installed w/ German Win2K and the redistributable .NET 1.1 framework >> >> (supposedly in German from the MS web site). When I run this app, the >> >> MessageBox button labels still say "OK" and "Cancel", why are they not > in >> >> German? What must I do to effect such behavior? Since MessageBox is a >> >> System.Windows.Forms object, I have no control over it's button labels, >> > only >> >> the message and the title passed in. >> >> >> >> TIA, >> >> >> >> -- >> >> John C. Bowman >> >> Software Engineer >> >> Thermo Electron Scientific Instruments Div. >> >> <Remove this before reply> john.bowman@thermo.com >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Yes,
John "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ujeIZ45vEHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Ok, I am very confused now. > > You have German Windows and German .NET framework, yet you are still > getting > English strings? > > > -- > MichKa [MS] > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies > Windows International Division > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with > no warranties, and confers no rights. > > > > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote in > message news:#mcwDHOvEHA.2172@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > Michael, > > The System is running true German windows, as this is what was > installed... > NOT English windows w/ changed regional settings. The code does nothing > special. Here's the 1 line of code in the Button1_Click event handler that > puts up the MessageBox: > > MessageBox.Show(Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentUICulture.Name + "\n" + > Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentCulture.Name); > > When this MessageBox appears, the OK button says: OK, instead of the > German > equivalent and the message itself indicates "de-DE" and "de-DE" > respectively > so the program's thread's UI culture is correct. > > John > > > "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in > message news:u8DYewHvEHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> Do you have more than one UI language on the system? If so then you must >> have the properly set UICulture to see the appropriate results.... >> >> >> -- >> MichKa [MS] >> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >> Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies >> Windows International Division >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with >> no warranties, and confers no rights. >> >> >> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote >> in >> message news:e4uh$RGvEHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >>> Micheal, >>> >>> Yes I know that. I'm running it on truly German Windows, but the buttons >> on >>> the MessageBox still shown in English. How do you fix that? >>> >>> John >>> >>> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in >>> message news:u9vn3$EvEHA.2016@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >>> > This call is a wrapper around the message boxx provided by the > operating >>> > system, so only a German OS would be expected to show German > strings.... >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > MichKa [MS] >>> > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >>> > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies >>> > Windows International Division >>> > >>> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with >>> > no warranties, and confers no rights. >>> > >>> > >>> > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> >>> > wrote >> in >>> > message news:OQdguKDvEHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >>> >> Hi, >>> >> >>> >> I've got a very simple WinForms C# app that the form's Localizable >>> > property >>> >> is set to true. When you press a button it merely calls >>> >> MessageBox.Show("Hello World!"). I now have a dedicated test system >>> >> installed w/ German Win2K and the redistributable .NET 1.1 framework >>> >> (supposedly in German from the MS web site). When I run this app, the >>> >> MessageBox button labels still say "OK" and "Cancel", why are they >>> >> not >> in >>> >> German? What must I do to effect such behavior? Since MessageBox is a >>> >> System.Windows.Forms object, I have no control over it's button > labels, >>> > only >>> >> the message and the title passed in. >>> >> >>> >> TIA, >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> John C. Bowman >>> >> Software Engineer >>> >> Thermo Electron Scientific Instruments Div. >>> >> <Remove this before reply> john.bowman@thermo.com >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >> >> > >
Michael,
Perhaps I should explain a bit further in case it helps figure out what's wrong. I took a test PC and reformatted the hard drive and installed German Win2K Pro from a recent MSDN subscription DVD. Setup was ALL in German. Note, I did not bother w/ Win2K's SP's. Then I went to the MS Download site and found the .NET 1.1 framework for German. Pulled it down and burned it to a CD. I went over to the test PC and installed the German .NET 1.1. I then carried over (on CD) the simple test app as described earlier and ran it. The MessageBox behaves as described below. John "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote in message news:evV9tJBwEHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Yes, > > John > > > "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in > message news:ujeIZ45vEHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >> Ok, I am very confused now. >> >> You have German Windows and German .NET framework, yet you are still >> getting >> English strings? >> >> >> -- >> MichKa [MS] >> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >> Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies >> Windows International Division >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with >> no warranties, and confers no rights. >> >> >> >> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote >> in >> message news:#mcwDHOvEHA.2172@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >> Michael, >> >> The System is running true German windows, as this is what was >> installed... >> NOT English windows w/ changed regional settings. The code does nothing >> special. Here's the 1 line of code in the Button1_Click event handler >> that >> puts up the MessageBox: >> >> MessageBox.Show(Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentUICulture.Name + "\n" + >> Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentCulture.Name); >> >> When this MessageBox appears, the OK button says: OK, instead of the >> German >> equivalent and the message itself indicates "de-DE" and "de-DE" >> respectively >> so the program's thread's UI culture is correct. >> >> John >> >> >> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in >> message news:u8DYewHvEHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >>> Do you have more than one UI language on the system? If so then you must >>> have the properly set UICulture to see the appropriate results.... >>> >>> >>> -- >>> MichKa [MS] >>> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >>> Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies >>> Windows International Division >>> >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with >>> no warranties, and confers no rights. >>> >>> >>> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote >>> in >>> message news:e4uh$RGvEHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >>>> Micheal, >>>> >>>> Yes I know that. I'm running it on truly German Windows, but the >>>> buttons >>> on >>>> the MessageBox still shown in English. How do you fix that? >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in >>>> message news:u9vn3$EvEHA.2016@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >>>> > This call is a wrapper around the message boxx provided by the >> operating >>>> > system, so only a German OS would be expected to show German >> strings.... >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > MichKa [MS] >>>> > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >>>> > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies >>>> > Windows International Division >>>> > >>>> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with >>>> > no warranties, and confers no rights. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> >>>> > wrote >>> in >>>> > message news:OQdguKDvEHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >>>> >> Hi, >>>> >> >>>> >> I've got a very simple WinForms C# app that the form's Localizable >>>> > property >>>> >> is set to true. When you press a button it merely calls >>>> >> MessageBox.Show("Hello World!"). I now have a dedicated test system >>>> >> installed w/ German Win2K and the redistributable .NET 1.1 framework >>>> >> (supposedly in German from the MS web site). When I run this app, >>>> >> the >>>> >> MessageBox button labels still say "OK" and "Cancel", why are they >>>> >> not >>> in >>>> >> German? What must I do to effect such behavior? Since MessageBox is >>>> >> a >>>> >> System.Windows.Forms object, I have no control over it's button >> labels, >>>> > only >>>> >> the message and the title passed in. >>>> >> >>>> >> TIA, >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> John C. Bowman >>>> >> Software Engineer >>>> >> Thermo Electron Scientific Instruments Div. >>>> >> <Remove this before reply> john.bowman@thermo.com >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Ok, and you recompiled the test app on the German machine, so that there was
literally no English anywhere in the process? -- MichKa [MS] NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies Windows International Division This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote in message news:#EJXDSBwEHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Michael, > > Perhaps I should explain a bit further in case it helps figure out what's > wrong. I took a test PC and reformatted the hard drive and installed German > Win2K Pro from a recent MSDN subscription DVD. Setup was ALL in German. > Note, I did not bother w/ Win2K's SP's. Then I went to the MS Download site > and found the .NET 1.1 framework for German. Pulled it down and burned it to > a CD. I went over to the test PC and installed the German .NET 1.1. I then > carried over (on CD) the simple test app as described earlier and ran it. > The MessageBox behaves as described below. > > John > > > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote in > message news:evV9tJBwEHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > > Yes, > > > > John > > > > > > "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in > > message news:ujeIZ45vEHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > >> Ok, I am very confused now. > >> > >> You have German Windows and German .NET framework, yet you are still > >> getting > >> English strings? > >> > >> > >> -- > >> MichKa [MS] > >> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead > >> Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies > >> Windows International Division > >> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with > >> no warranties, and confers no rights. > >> > >> > >> > >> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote > >> in > >> message news:#mcwDHOvEHA.2172@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > >> Michael, > >> > >> The System is running true German windows, as this is what was > >> installed... > >> NOT English windows w/ changed regional settings. The code does nothing > >> special. Here's the 1 line of code in the Button1_Click event handler > >> that > >> puts up the MessageBox: > >> > >> MessageBox.Show(Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentUICulture.Name + "\n" + > >> Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentCulture.Name); > >> > >> When this MessageBox appears, the OK button says: OK, instead of the > >> German > >> equivalent and the message itself indicates "de-DE" and "de-DE" > >> respectively > >> so the program's thread's UI culture is correct. > >> > >> John > >> > >> > >> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in > >> message news:u8DYewHvEHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > >>> Do you have more than one UI language on the system? If so then you must > >>> have the properly set UICulture to see the appropriate results.... > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> MichKa [MS] > >>> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead > >>> Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies > >>> Windows International Division > >>> > >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with > >>> no warranties, and confers no rights. > >>> > >>> > >>> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote > >>> in > >>> message news:e4uh$RGvEHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > >>>> Micheal, > >>>> > >>>> Yes I know that. I'm running it on truly German Windows, but the > >>>> buttons > >>> on > >>>> the MessageBox still shown in English. How do you fix that? > >>>> > >>>> John > >>>> > >>>> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in > >>>> message news:u9vn3$EvEHA.2016@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > >>>> > This call is a wrapper around the message boxx provided by the > >> operating > >>>> > system, so only a German OS would be expected to show German > >> strings.... > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > -- > >>>> > MichKa [MS] > >>>> > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead > >>>> > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies > >>>> > Windows International Division > >>>> > > >>>> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with > >>>> > no warranties, and confers no rights. > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> > >>>> > wrote > >>> in > >>>> > message news:OQdguKDvEHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > >>>> >> Hi, > >>>> >> > >>>> >> I've got a very simple WinForms C# app that the form's Localizable > >>>> > property > >>>> >> is set to true. When you press a button it merely calls > >>>> >> MessageBox.Show("Hello World!"). I now have a dedicated test system > >>>> >> installed w/ German Win2K and the redistributable .NET 1.1 framework > >>>> >> (supposedly in German from the MS web site). When I run this app, > >>>> >> the > >>>> >> MessageBox button labels still say "OK" and "Cancel", why are they > >>>> >> not > >>> in > >>>> >> German? What must I do to effect such behavior? Since MessageBox is > >>>> >> a > >>>> >> System.Windows.Forms object, I have no control over it's button > >> labels, > >>>> > only > >>>> >> the message and the title passed in. > >>>> >> > >>>> >> TIA, > >>>> >> > >>>> >> -- > >>>> >> John C. Bowman > >>>> >> Software Engineer > >>>> >> Thermo Electron Scientific Instruments Div. > >>>> >> <Remove this before reply> john.bowman@thermo.com > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > >
Michael,
The development environment was never installed on the German machine & no I did not recompile it on the German machine either using the command line compiler. That's a huge nuisance for a simple test app. From an internationalization vantage point, I sure hope that is not required. Based on the documentation for internationalizing .NET app's, we were expecting to send out resource files and build satellite resource dll's, not recompile the app locally! Repompiling the EXE locally is a totally unacceptable thing to do. John "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:eyMQPmCwEHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Ok, and you recompiled the test app on the German machine, so that there > was > literally no English anywhere in the process? > > > -- > MichKa [MS] > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies > Windows International Division > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with > no warranties, and confers no rights. > > > > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote in > message news:#EJXDSBwEHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> Michael, >> >> Perhaps I should explain a bit further in case it helps figure out what's >> wrong. I took a test PC and reformatted the hard drive and installed > German >> Win2K Pro from a recent MSDN subscription DVD. Setup was ALL in German. >> Note, I did not bother w/ Win2K's SP's. Then I went to the MS Download > site >> and found the .NET 1.1 framework for German. Pulled it down and burned it > to >> a CD. I went over to the test PC and installed the German .NET 1.1. I >> then >> carried over (on CD) the simple test app as described earlier and ran it. >> The MessageBox behaves as described below. >> >> John >> >> >> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote >> in >> message news:evV9tJBwEHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> > Yes, >> > >> > John >> > >> > >> > "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in >> > message news:ujeIZ45vEHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >> >> Ok, I am very confused now. >> >> >> >> You have German Windows and German .NET framework, yet you are still >> >> getting >> >> English strings? >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> MichKa [MS] >> >> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >> >> Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies >> >> Windows International Division >> >> >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with >> >> no warranties, and confers no rights. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> >> >> wrote >> >> in >> >> message news:#mcwDHOvEHA.2172@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >> >> Michael, >> >> >> >> The System is running true German windows, as this is what was >> >> installed... >> >> NOT English windows w/ changed regional settings. The code does >> >> nothing >> >> special. Here's the 1 line of code in the Button1_Click event handler >> >> that >> >> puts up the MessageBox: >> >> >> >> MessageBox.Show(Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentUICulture.Name + "\n" + >> >> Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentCulture.Name); >> >> >> >> When this MessageBox appears, the OK button says: OK, instead of the >> >> German >> >> equivalent and the message itself indicates "de-DE" and "de-DE" >> >> respectively >> >> so the program's thread's UI culture is correct. >> >> >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> >> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> message news:u8DYewHvEHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> >>> Do you have more than one UI language on the system? If so then you > must >> >>> have the properly set UICulture to see the appropriate results.... >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> MichKa [MS] >> >>> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >> >>> Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies >> >>> Windows International Division >> >>> >> >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with >> >>> no warranties, and confers no rights. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> > wrote >> >>> in >> >>> message news:e4uh$RGvEHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> >>>> Micheal, >> >>>> >> >>>> Yes I know that. I'm running it on truly German Windows, but the >> >>>> buttons >> >>> on >> >>>> the MessageBox still shown in English. How do you fix that? >> >>>> >> >>>> John >> >>>> >> >>>> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote > in >> >>>> message news:u9vn3$EvEHA.2016@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> >>>> > This call is a wrapper around the message boxx provided by the >> >> operating >> >>>> > system, so only a German OS would be expected to show German >> >> strings.... >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > -- >> >>>> > MichKa [MS] >> >>>> > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >> >>>> > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies >> >>>> > Windows International Division >> >>>> > >> >>>> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with >> >>>> > no warranties, and confers no rights. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> >> >>>> > wrote >> >>> in >> >>>> > message news:OQdguKDvEHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >> >>>> >> Hi, >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> I've got a very simple WinForms C# app that the form's >> >>>> >> Localizable >> >>>> > property >> >>>> >> is set to true. When you press a button it merely calls >> >>>> >> MessageBox.Show("Hello World!"). I now have a dedicated test > system >> >>>> >> installed w/ German Win2K and the redistributable .NET 1.1 > framework >> >>>> >> (supposedly in German from the MS web site). When I run this app, >> >>>> >> the >> >>>> >> MessageBox button labels still say "OK" and "Cancel", why are >> >>>> >> they >> >>>> >> not >> >>> in >> >>>> >> German? What must I do to effect such behavior? Since MessageBox > is >> >>>> >> a >> >>>> >> System.Windows.Forms object, I have no control over it's button >> >> labels, >> >>>> > only >> >>>> >> the message and the title passed in. >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> TIA, >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> -- >> >>>> >> John C. Bowman >> >>>> >> Software Engineer >> >>>> >> Thermo Electron Scientific Instruments Div. >> >>>> >> <Remove this before reply> john.bowman@thermo.com >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
I was not suggesting that you would have to do that -- I was just trying to
understand what was done. So this was not a test of sattelite resource DLLs (yet), but was a test of the behavior of MessageBox, right? I'll admit it does not match what I thought it would do, either. -- MichKa [MS] NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies Windows International Division This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote in message news:u4DbfADwEHA.1976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Michael,
> > The development environment was never installed on the German machine & no I > did not recompile it on the German machine either using the command line > compiler. That's a huge nuisance for a simple test app. From an > internationalization vantage point, I sure hope that is not required. Based > on the documentation for internationalizing .NET app's, we were expecting to > send out resource files and build satellite resource dll's, not recompile > the app locally! Repompiling the EXE locally is a totally unacceptable thing > to do. > > John > > > "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in > message news:eyMQPmCwEHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > > Ok, and you recompiled the test app on the German machine, so that there > > was > > literally no English anywhere in the process? > > > > > > -- > > MichKa [MS] > > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead > > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies > > Windows International Division > > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with > > no warranties, and confers no rights. > > > > > > > > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote in > > message news:#EJXDSBwEHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > >> Michael, > >> > >> Perhaps I should explain a bit further in case it helps figure out what's > >> wrong. I took a test PC and reformatted the hard drive and installed > > German > >> Win2K Pro from a recent MSDN subscription DVD. Setup was ALL in German. > >> Note, I did not bother w/ Win2K's SP's. Then I went to the MS Download > > site > >> and found the .NET 1.1 framework for German. Pulled it down and burned it > > to > >> a CD. I went over to the test PC and installed the German .NET 1.1. I > >> then > >> carried over (on CD) the simple test app as described earlier and ran it. > >> The MessageBox behaves as described below. > >> > >> John > >> > >> > >> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote > >> in > >> message news:evV9tJBwEHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > >> > Yes, > >> > > >> > John > >> > > >> > > >> > "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in > >> > message news:ujeIZ45vEHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > >> >> Ok, I am very confused now. > >> >> > >> >> You have German Windows and German .NET framework, yet you are still > >> >> getting > >> >> English strings? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> MichKa [MS] > >> >> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead > >> >> Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies > >> >> Windows International Division > >> >> > >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with > >> >> no warranties, and confers no rights. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> > >> >> wrote > >> >> in > >> >> message news:#mcwDHOvEHA.2172@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > >> >> Michael, > >> >> > >> >> The System is running true German windows, as this is what was > >> >> installed... > >> >> NOT English windows w/ changed regional settings. The code does > >> >> nothing > >> >> special. Here's the 1 line of code in the Button1_Click event handler > >> >> that > >> >> puts up the MessageBox: > >> >> > >> >> MessageBox.Show(Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentUICulture.Name + "\n" + > >> >> Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentCulture.Name); > >> >> > >> >> When this MessageBox appears, the OK button says: OK, instead of the > >> >> German > >> >> equivalent and the message itself indicates "de-DE" and "de-DE" > >> >> respectively > >> >> so the program's thread's UI culture is correct. > >> >> > >> >> John > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in > >> >> message news:u8DYewHvEHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > >> >>> Do you have more than one UI language on the system? If so then you > > must > >> >>> have the properly set UICulture to see the appropriate results.... > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> MichKa [MS] > >> >>> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead > >> >>> Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies > >> >>> Windows International Division > >> >>> > >> >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with > >> >>> no warranties, and confers no rights. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> > > wrote > >> >>> in > >> >>> message news:e4uh$RGvEHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > >> >>>> Micheal, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Yes I know that. I'm running it on truly German Windows, but the > >> >>>> buttons > >> >>> on > >> >>>> the MessageBox still shown in English. How do you fix that? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> John > >> >>>> > >> >>>> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote > > in > >> >>>> message news:u9vn3$EvEHA.2016@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > >> >>>> > This call is a wrapper around the message boxx provided by the > >> >> operating > >> >>>> > system, so only a German OS would be expected to show German > >> >> strings.... > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > -- > >> >>>> > MichKa [MS] > >> >>>> > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead > >> >>>> > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies > >> >>>> > Windows International Division > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with > >> >>>> > no warranties, and confers no rights. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> > >> >>>> > wrote > >> >>> in > >> >>>> > message news:OQdguKDvEHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > >> >>>> >> Hi, > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> I've got a very simple WinForms C# app that the form's > >> >>>> >> Localizable > >> >>>> > property > >> >>>> >> is set to true. When you press a button it merely calls > >> >>>> >> MessageBox.Show("Hello World!"). I now have a dedicated test > > system > >> >>>> >> installed w/ German Win2K and the redistributable .NET 1.1 > > framework > >> >>>> >> (supposedly in German from the MS web site). When I run this app, > >> >>>> >> the > >> >>>> >> MessageBox button labels still say "OK" and "Cancel", why are > >> >>>> >> they > >> >>>> >> not > >> >>> in
Michael,
[quoted text, click to view] >I was not suggesting that you would have to do that -- I was just trying to > understand what was done. I didn't mean to sound ornery... sorry if I did. In fact, your answer made me breathe a big sigh of relief <g>. Thanks again, for your continued help & patitence. You are correct, this was simply a test of what the MessageBox would do. I've already managed to get the satellite resource Dll's stuff to work in another test app. The only thing we can't seem to get cooperating is the MessageBox itself. John "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:unaD0LEwEHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] >I was not suggesting that you would have to do that -- I was just trying to
> understand what was done. > > So this was not a test of sattelite resource DLLs (yet), but was a test of > the behavior of MessageBox, right? I'll admit it does not match what I > thought it would do, either. > > > -- > MichKa [MS] > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies > Windows International Division > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with > no warranties, and confers no rights. > > > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote in > message news:u4DbfADwEHA.1976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> Michael, >> >> The development environment was never installed on the German machine & >> no > I >> did not recompile it on the German machine either using the command line >> compiler. That's a huge nuisance for a simple test app. From an >> internationalization vantage point, I sure hope that is not required. > Based >> on the documentation for internationalizing .NET app's, we were expecting > to >> send out resource files and build satellite resource dll's, not recompile >> the app locally! Repompiling the EXE locally is a totally unacceptable > thing >> to do. >> >> John >> >> >> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in >> message news:eyMQPmCwEHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> > Ok, and you recompiled the test app on the German machine, so that >> > there >> > was >> > literally no English anywhere in the process? >> > >> > >> > -- >> > MichKa [MS] >> > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >> > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies >> > Windows International Division >> > >> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with >> > no warranties, and confers no rights. >> > >> > >> > >> > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote > in >> > message news:#EJXDSBwEHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> >> Michael, >> >> >> >> Perhaps I should explain a bit further in case it helps figure out > what's >> >> wrong. I took a test PC and reformatted the hard drive and installed >> > German >> >> Win2K Pro from a recent MSDN subscription DVD. Setup was ALL in >> >> German. >> >> Note, I did not bother w/ Win2K's SP's. Then I went to the MS Download >> > site >> >> and found the .NET 1.1 framework for German. Pulled it down and burned > it >> > to >> >> a CD. I went over to the test PC and installed the German .NET 1.1. I >> >> then >> >> carried over (on CD) the simple test app as described earlier and ran > it. >> >> The MessageBox behaves as described below. >> >> >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> >> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> >> >> wrote >> >> in >> >> message news:evV9tJBwEHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> >> > Yes, >> >> > >> >> > John >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote > in >> >> > message news:ujeIZ45vEHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >> >> >> Ok, I am very confused now. >> >> >> >> >> >> You have German Windows and German .NET framework, yet you are >> >> >> still >> >> >> getting >> >> >> English strings? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> MichKa [MS] >> >> >> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >> >> >> Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies >> >> >> Windows International Division >> >> >> >> >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with >> >> >> no warranties, and confers no rights. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> >> >> >> wrote >> >> >> in >> >> >> message news:#mcwDHOvEHA.2172@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >> >> >> Michael, >> >> >> >> >> >> The System is running true German windows, as this is what was >> >> >> installed... >> >> >> NOT English windows w/ changed regional settings. The code does >> >> >> nothing >> >> >> special. Here's the 1 line of code in the Button1_Click event > handler >> >> >> that >> >> >> puts up the MessageBox: >> >> >> >> >> >> MessageBox.Show(Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentUICulture.Name + "\n" + >> >> >> Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentCulture.Name); >> >> >> >> >> >> When this MessageBox appears, the OK button says: OK, instead of >> >> >> the >> >> >> German >> >> >> equivalent and the message itself indicates "de-DE" and "de-DE" >> >> >> respectively >> >> >> so the program's thread's UI culture is correct. >> >> >> >> >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote > in >> >> >> message news:u8DYewHvEHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> >> >>> Do you have more than one UI language on the system? If so then >> >> >>> you >> > must >> >> >>> have the properly set UICulture to see the appropriate results.... >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> MichKa [MS] >> >> >>> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >> >> >>> Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies >> >> >>> Windows International Division >> >> >>> >> >> >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with >> >> >>> no warranties, and confers no rights. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> >> > wrote >> >> >>> in >> >> >>> message news:e4uh$RGvEHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> >> >>>> Micheal, >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Yes I know that. I'm running it on truly German Windows, but the >> >> >>>> buttons >> >> >>> on >> >> >>>> the MessageBox still shown in English. How do you fix that? >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> John >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> > wrote >> > in >> >> >>>> message news:u9vn3$EvEHA.2016@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> >> >>>> > This call is a wrapper around the message boxx provided by the >> >> >> operating >> >> >>>> > system, so only a German OS would be expected to show German >> >> >> strings.... >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > -- >> >> >>>> > MichKa [MS] >> >> >>>> > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >> >> >>>> > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies >> >> >>>> > Windows International Division >> >> >>>> >
Michael,
I finally figured out what's going on... I feel like an idiot. Notice the line of code below that I included in a previous message. This MessageBox.Show() call is a simple "OK" button. When run in English "OK" is "OK", but when run in German "OK" apparently also translates to "OK". Thus, I saw what I thought was no translation. When I change the call to use MessageBoxButtons.YesNoCancel (or any other button combination types) the translated ones dutifully appear. It's just that "OK" is the same in numerous languages and I never thought of it. Would it be possible to have a link added to the MSDN doc's about MessageBox to clearly state that the button texts are automatically translated into the local culture's appropriate equivalents? Furthemore, "OK" may be the same in numerous languages. Nothing actually states either of these things anywhere that I can find and it has caused me to waste a lot of time on this issue and it would be nice to help others not fall into this same trap. [quoted text, click to view] >>> >> >> MessageBox.Show(Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentUICulture.Name + "\n" >>> >> >> + >>> >> >> Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentCulture.Name); Sorry to have wasted your time. John "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote in message news:OgZR%23vFwEHA.3416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Michael,
> >>I was not suggesting that you would have to do that -- I was just trying >>to >> understand what was done. > > I didn't mean to sound ornery... sorry if I did. In fact, your answer made > me breathe a big sigh of relief <g>. Thanks again, for your continued > help & patitence. You are correct, this was simply a test of what the > MessageBox would do. I've already managed to get the satellite resource > Dll's stuff to work in another test app. The only thing we can't seem to > get cooperating is the MessageBox itself. > > John > > > "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in > message news:unaD0LEwEHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >>I was not suggesting that you would have to do that -- I was just trying >>to >> understand what was done. >> >> So this was not a test of sattelite resource DLLs (yet), but was a test >> of >> the behavior of MessageBox, right? I'll admit it does not match what I >> thought it would do, either. >> >> >> -- >> MichKa [MS] >> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >> Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies >> Windows International Division >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with >> no warranties, and confers no rights. >> >> >> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote >> in >> message news:u4DbfADwEHA.1976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >>> Michael, >>> >>> The development environment was never installed on the German machine & >>> no >> I >>> did not recompile it on the German machine either using the command line >>> compiler. That's a huge nuisance for a simple test app. From an >>> internationalization vantage point, I sure hope that is not required. >> Based >>> on the documentation for internationalizing .NET app's, we were >>> expecting >> to >>> send out resource files and build satellite resource dll's, not >>> recompile >>> the app locally! Repompiling the EXE locally is a totally unacceptable >> thing >>> to do. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in >>> message news:eyMQPmCwEHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >>> > Ok, and you recompiled the test app on the German machine, so that >>> > there >>> > was >>> > literally no English anywhere in the process? >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > MichKa [MS] >>> > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >>> > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies >>> > Windows International Division >>> > >>> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with >>> > no warranties, and confers no rights. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> >>> > wrote >> in >>> > message news:#EJXDSBwEHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >>> >> Michael, >>> >> >>> >> Perhaps I should explain a bit further in case it helps figure out >> what's >>> >> wrong. I took a test PC and reformatted the hard drive and installed >>> > German >>> >> Win2K Pro from a recent MSDN subscription DVD. Setup was ALL in >>> >> German. >>> >> Note, I did not bother w/ Win2K's SP's. Then I went to the MS >>> >> Download >>> > site >>> >> and found the .NET 1.1 framework for German. Pulled it down and >>> >> burned >> it >>> > to >>> >> a CD. I went over to the test PC and installed the German .NET 1.1. I >>> >> then >>> >> carried over (on CD) the simple test app as described earlier and ran >> it. >>> >> The MessageBox behaves as described below. >>> >> >>> >> John >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> >>> >> wrote >>> >> in >>> >> message news:evV9tJBwEHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >>> >> > Yes, >>> >> > >>> >> > John >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote >> in >>> >> > message news:ujeIZ45vEHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >>> >> >> Ok, I am very confused now. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> You have German Windows and German .NET framework, yet you are >>> >> >> still >>> >> >> getting >>> >> >> English strings? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> -- >>> >> >> MichKa [MS] >>> >> >> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >>> >> >> Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies >>> >> >> Windows International Division >>> >> >> >>> >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with >>> >> >> no warranties, and confers no rights. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> >>> >> >> wrote >>> >> >> in >>> >> >> message news:#mcwDHOvEHA.2172@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >>> >> >> Michael, >>> >> >> >>> >> >> The System is running true German windows, as this is what was >>> >> >> installed... >>> >> >> NOT English windows w/ changed regional settings. The code does >>> >> >> nothing >>> >> >> special. Here's the 1 line of code in the Button1_Click event >> handler >>> >> >> that >>> >> >> puts up the MessageBox: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> MessageBox.Show(Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentUICulture.Name + "\n" >>> >> >> + >>> >> >> Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentCulture.Name); >>> >> >> >>> >> >> When this MessageBox appears, the OK button says: OK, instead of >>> >> >> the >>> >> >> German >>> >> >> equivalent and the message itself indicates "de-DE" and "de-DE" >>> >> >> respectively >>> >> >> so the program's thread's UI culture is correct. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> John >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> >>> >> >> wrote >> in
I am not sure this is a case that makes sense in the documentation, since in
all of the common cases (user runs the language version of Windows they want and sees the messagebox they are used to seeing everywhere else) does not need this and the generic rule for handling localized versions is to either KNOW language or know someone else who does if you want to test that UI language is changed properly. In other words, it did cause some extra pain here in thie particular case, but only because the UI language of Windows was changed with the expectation that a particular string would change (something that a regular user of that UI language would know to be false).... -- MichKa [MS] NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies Windows International Division This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote in message news:e8OsQkPwEHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Michael,
> > I finally figured out what's going on... I feel like an idiot. Notice the > line of code below that I included in a previous message. This > MessageBox.Show() call is a simple "OK" button. When run in English "OK" is > "OK", but when run in German "OK" apparently also translates to "OK". Thus, > I saw what I thought was no translation. When I change the call to use > MessageBoxButtons.YesNoCancel (or any other button combination types) the > translated ones dutifully appear. It's just that "OK" is the same in > numerous languages and I never thought of it. Would it be possible to have a > link added to the MSDN doc's about MessageBox to clearly state that the > button texts are automatically translated into the local culture's > appropriate equivalents? Furthemore, "OK" may be the same in numerous > languages. Nothing actually states either of these things anywhere that I > can find and it has caused me to waste a lot of time on this issue and it > would be nice to help others not fall into this same trap. > > >>> >> >> MessageBox.Show(Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentUICulture.Name + "\n" > >>> >> >> + > >>> >> >> Thread.CurrentThread.CurrentCulture.Name); > > > Sorry to have wasted your time. > > John > > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote in > message news:OgZR%23vFwEHA.3416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > > Michael, > > > >>I was not suggesting that you would have to do that -- I was just trying > >>to > >> understand what was done. > > > > I didn't mean to sound ornery... sorry if I did. In fact, your answer made > > me breathe a big sigh of relief <g>. Thanks again, for your continued > > help & patitence. You are correct, this was simply a test of what the > > MessageBox would do. I've already managed to get the satellite resource > > Dll's stuff to work in another test app. The only thing we can't seem to > > get cooperating is the MessageBox itself. > > > > John > > > > > > "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in > > message news:unaD0LEwEHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > >>I was not suggesting that you would have to do that -- I was just trying > >>to > >> understand what was done. > >> > >> So this was not a test of sattelite resource DLLs (yet), but was a test > >> of > >> the behavior of MessageBox, right? I'll admit it does not match what I > >> thought it would do, either. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> MichKa [MS] > >> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead > >> Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies > >> Windows International Division > >> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with > >> no warranties, and confers no rights. > >> > >> > >> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote > >> in > >> message news:u4DbfADwEHA.1976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > >>> Michael, > >>> > >>> The development environment was never installed on the German machine & > >>> no > >> I > >>> did not recompile it on the German machine either using the command line > >>> compiler. That's a huge nuisance for a simple test app. From an > >>> internationalization vantage point, I sure hope that is not required. > >> Based > >>> on the documentation for internationalizing .NET app's, we were > >>> expecting > >> to > >>> send out resource files and build satellite resource dll's, not > >>> recompile > >>> the app locally! Repompiling the EXE locally is a totally unacceptable > >> thing > >>> to do. > >>> > >>> John > >>> > >>> > >>> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote in > >>> message news:eyMQPmCwEHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > >>> > Ok, and you recompiled the test app on the German machine, so that > >>> > there > >>> > was > >>> > literally no English anywhere in the process? > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > MichKa [MS] > >>> > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead > >>> > Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies > >>> > Windows International Division > >>> > > >>> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with > >>> > no warranties, and confers no rights. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> > >>> > wrote > >> in > >>> > message news:#EJXDSBwEHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > >>> >> Michael, > >>> >> > >>> >> Perhaps I should explain a bit further in case it helps figure out > >> what's > >>> >> wrong. I took a test PC and reformatted the hard drive and installed > >>> > German > >>> >> Win2K Pro from a recent MSDN subscription DVD. Setup was ALL in > >>> >> German. > >>> >> Note, I did not bother w/ Win2K's SP's. Then I went to the MS > >>> >> Download > >>> > site > >>> >> and found the .NET 1.1 framework for German. Pulled it down and > >>> >> burned > >> it > >>> > to > >>> >> a CD. I went over to the test PC and installed the German .NET 1.1. I > >>> >> then > >>> >> carried over (on CD) the simple test app as described earlier and ran > >> it. > >>> >> The MessageBox behaves as described below. > >>> >> > >>> >> John > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> > >>> >> wrote > >>> >> in > >>> >> message news:evV9tJBwEHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > >>> >> > Yes, > >>> >> > > >>> >> > John > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@online.microsoft.com> wrote > >> in > >>> >> > message news:ujeIZ45vEHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > >>> >> >> Ok, I am very confused now. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> You have German Windows and German .NET framework, yet you are > >>> >> >> still > >>> >> >> getting > >>> >> >> English strings? > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> -- > >>> >> >> MichKa [MS] > >>> >> >> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead
Hey, I gone through all ur messages,
and after reading the last post, I cant stop myself from laughing . Thats really a good entertainment and plz. keep it up. regards, VC "John Bowman john.bowman@thermo.com>" <<Remove this before reply> wrote in message news:OQdguKDvEHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Hi, > > I've got a very simple WinForms C# app that the form's Localizable > property is set to true. When you press a button it merely calls > MessageBox.Show("Hello World!"). I now have a dedicated test system > installed w/ German Win2K and the redistributable .NET 1.1 framework > (supposedly in German from the MS web site). When I run this app, the > MessageBox button labels still say "OK" and "Cancel", why are they not in > German? What must I do to effect such behavior? Since MessageBox is a > System.Windows.Forms object, I have no control over it's button labels, > only the message and the title passed in. > > TIA, > > -- > John C. Bowman > Software Engineer > Thermo Electron Scientific Instruments Div. > <Remove this before reply> john.bowman@thermo.com >
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