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Now I see there is a new text rendering class: SWF.TextRenderer. I haven't tested it out yet but it seems interesting. However I see a couple of issues with it: 1. It doesn't gives me bidi "run" layout information so I have to call uniscribe to get that 2. It only gives me string width, if I want to wrap my text around some boundary I have either to call MeasureText repitively or I have to use Uniscribe again 3. It doesn't gives me cluster boundary for caret placement 4. If I render unsuported char/glyph I don't know which kind of font fall back mechanism it uses so I'm not sure my measurement (which I should do with Uniscribe for reason 1,2,3) will fit the new drawing. Is there any plan to improve these issues?
I talk about this a little bit here:
http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/500485.aspx -- MichKa [Microsoft] NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead Globalization Infrastructure, Fonts, and Tools Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. [quoted text, click to view] "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message news:OnzPuKx8FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >I have written m own "RichTextView" using Uniscribe. > Now I see there is a new text rendering class: SWF.TextRenderer. > > I haven't tested it out yet but it seems interesting. > > However I see a couple of issues with it: > 1. It doesn't gives me bidi "run" layout information so I have to call > uniscribe to get that > 2. It only gives me string width, if I want to wrap my text around some > boundary I have either to call MeasureText repitively or I have to use > Uniscribe again > 3. It doesn't gives me cluster boundary for caret placement > 4. If I render unsuported char/glyph I don't know which kind of font fall > back mechanism it uses so I'm not sure my measurement (which I should do > with Uniscribe for reason 1,2,3) will fit the new drawing. > > Is there any plan to improve these issues? > >
There is no context that I am aware of that would explin how the
PrintPreview issue you refer to relates to the TextRenderer. -- MichKa [Microsoft] NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead Globalization Infrastructure, Fonts, and Tools Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. [quoted text, click to view] "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message news:%23XxpnCs%23FHA.3852@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > hoho... > I see..... > > And what about my printing issue :-( > (PrintPreview doesn't work at all!! and Print space coordinate is scaled > by 3 (not 96 / 300)) > > Anyway I'm about to give a try to paint with the TextRenderer instead of > ScriptTextOut. > Hoping it might solve the print preview issue... > > "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@microsoft.online.com> wrote in > message news:OzXf4ur%23FHA.904@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >>I talk about this a little bit here: >> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/500485.aspx >> >> >> -- >> MichKa [Microsoft] >> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >> Globalization Infrastructure, Fonts, and Tools >> Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with >> no warranties, and confers no rights. >> >> >> "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message >> news:OnzPuKx8FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >>>I have written m own "RichTextView" using Uniscribe. >>> Now I see there is a new text rendering class: SWF.TextRenderer. >>> >>> I haven't tested it out yet but it seems interesting. >>> >>> However I see a couple of issues with it: >>> 1. It doesn't gives me bidi "run" layout information so I have to call >>> uniscribe to get that >>> 2. It only gives me string width, if I want to wrap my text around some >>> boundary I have either to call MeasureText repitively or I have to use >>> Uniscribe again >>> 3. It doesn't gives me cluster boundary for caret placement >>> 4. If I render unsuported char/glyph I don't know which kind of font >>> fall back mechanism it uses so I'm not sure my measurement (which I >>> should do with Uniscribe for reason 1,2,3) will fit the new drawing. >>> >>> Is there any plan to improve these issues? >>> >>> >> >> > >
Probably best to let your other thread carry this issue, all thing
considered? The TextRenderer just uses Uniscribe, so there is nothing TextRenderer-specific here. [quoted text, click to view] "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message news:OzYuCjt%23FHA.3104@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > Forget about the text renderer. > PrintPreview is not working at all if I use ScriptTextOut to render text. > > > Also, wether using Print Preview and/or Print, and wether using > ScriptTextOut and/or TextRenderer the text (GDI/ScriptTextOut rendered) is > scaled compare to other GDI+ rendering on the printer. > > > "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@microsoft.online.com> wrote in > message news:u3qOcws%23FHA.2452@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >> There is no context that I am aware of that would explin how the >> PrintPreview issue you refer to relates to the TextRenderer. >> >> >> -- >> MichKa [Microsoft] >> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >> Globalization Infrastructure, Fonts, and Tools >> Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with >> no warranties, and confers no rights. >> >> >> >> "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message >> news:%23XxpnCs%23FHA.3852@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >>> hoho... >>> I see..... >>> >>> And what about my printing issue :-( >>> (PrintPreview doesn't work at all!! and Print space coordinate is scaled >>> by 3 (not 96 / 300)) >>> >>> Anyway I'm about to give a try to paint with the TextRenderer instead of >>> ScriptTextOut. >>> Hoping it might solve the print preview issue... >>> >>> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@microsoft.online.com> wrote in >>> message news:OzXf4ur%23FHA.904@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >>>>I talk about this a little bit here: >>>> >>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/500485.aspx >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> MichKa [Microsoft] >>>> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >>>> Globalization Infrastructure, Fonts, and Tools >>>> Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap >>>> >>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with >>>> no warranties, and confers no rights. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message >>>> news:OnzPuKx8FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >>>>>I have written m own "RichTextView" using Uniscribe. >>>>> Now I see there is a new text rendering class: SWF.TextRenderer. >>>>> >>>>> I haven't tested it out yet but it seems interesting. >>>>> >>>>> However I see a couple of issues with it: >>>>> 1. It doesn't gives me bidi "run" layout information so I have to call >>>>> uniscribe to get that >>>>> 2. It only gives me string width, if I want to wrap my text around >>>>> some boundary I have either to call MeasureText repitively or I have >>>>> to use Uniscribe again >>>>> 3. It doesn't gives me cluster boundary for caret placement >>>>> 4. If I render unsuported char/glyph I don't know which kind of font >>>>> fall back mechanism it uses so I'm not sure my measurement (which I >>>>> should do with Uniscribe for reason 1,2,3) will fit the new drawing. >>>>> >>>>> Is there any plan to improve these issues? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
hoho...
I see..... And what about my printing issue :-( (PrintPreview doesn't work at all!! and Print space coordinate is scaled by 3 (not 96 / 300)) Anyway I'm about to give a try to paint with the TextRenderer instead of ScriptTextOut. Hoping it might solve the print preview issue... "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@microsoft.online.com> wrote in message news:OzXf4ur%23FHA.904@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] >I talk about this a little bit here: > > http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/500485.aspx > > > -- > MichKa [Microsoft] > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead > Globalization Infrastructure, Fonts, and Tools > Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with > no warranties, and confers no rights. > > > "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message > news:OnzPuKx8FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >>I have written m own "RichTextView" using Uniscribe. >> Now I see there is a new text rendering class: SWF.TextRenderer. >> >> I haven't tested it out yet but it seems interesting. >> >> However I see a couple of issues with it: >> 1. It doesn't gives me bidi "run" layout information so I have to call >> uniscribe to get that >> 2. It only gives me string width, if I want to wrap my text around some >> boundary I have either to call MeasureText repitively or I have to use >> Uniscribe again >> 3. It doesn't gives me cluster boundary for caret placement >> 4. If I render unsuported char/glyph I don't know which kind of font fall >> back mechanism it uses so I'm not sure my measurement (which I should do >> with Uniscribe for reason 1,2,3) will fit the new drawing. >> >> Is there any plan to improve these issues? >> >> > >
Forget about the text renderer.
PrintPreview is not working at all if I use ScriptTextOut to render text. Also, wether using Print Preview and/or Print, and wether using ScriptTextOut and/or TextRenderer the text (GDI/ScriptTextOut rendered) is scaled compare to other GDI+ rendering on the printer. "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@microsoft.online.com> wrote in message news:u3qOcws%23FHA.2452@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > There is no context that I am aware of that would explin how the > PrintPreview issue you refer to relates to the TextRenderer. > > > -- > MichKa [Microsoft] > NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead > Globalization Infrastructure, Fonts, and Tools > Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with > no warranties, and confers no rights. > > > > "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message > news:%23XxpnCs%23FHA.3852@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >> hoho... >> I see..... >> >> And what about my printing issue :-( >> (PrintPreview doesn't work at all!! and Print space coordinate is scaled >> by 3 (not 96 / 300)) >> >> Anyway I'm about to give a try to paint with the TextRenderer instead of >> ScriptTextOut. >> Hoping it might solve the print preview issue... >> >> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@microsoft.online.com> wrote in >> message news:OzXf4ur%23FHA.904@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >>>I talk about this a little bit here: >>> >>> http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/500485.aspx >>> >>> >>> -- >>> MichKa [Microsoft] >>> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >>> Globalization Infrastructure, Fonts, and Tools >>> Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap >>> >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with >>> no warranties, and confers no rights. >>> >>> >>> "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message >>> news:OnzPuKx8FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >>>>I have written m own "RichTextView" using Uniscribe. >>>> Now I see there is a new text rendering class: SWF.TextRenderer. >>>> >>>> I haven't tested it out yet but it seems interesting. >>>> >>>> However I see a couple of issues with it: >>>> 1. It doesn't gives me bidi "run" layout information so I have to call >>>> uniscribe to get that >>>> 2. It only gives me string width, if I want to wrap my text around some >>>> boundary I have either to call MeasureText repitively or I have to use >>>> Uniscribe again >>>> 3. It doesn't gives me cluster boundary for caret placement >>>> 4. If I render unsuported char/glyph I don't know which kind of font >>>> fall back mechanism it uses so I'm not sure my measurement (which I >>>> should do with Uniscribe for reason 1,2,3) will fit the new drawing. >>>> >>>> Is there any plan to improve these issues? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
oki doki ;-)
"Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@microsoft.online.com> wrote in message news:O63Elut%23FHA.740@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Probably best to let your other thread carry this issue, all thing > considered? > > The TextRenderer just uses Uniscribe, so there is nothing > TextRenderer-specific here. > > > > "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message > news:OzYuCjt%23FHA.3104@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> Forget about the text renderer. >> PrintPreview is not working at all if I use ScriptTextOut to render >> text. >> >> >> Also, wether using Print Preview and/or Print, and wether using >> ScriptTextOut and/or TextRenderer the text (GDI/ScriptTextOut rendered) >> is scaled compare to other GDI+ rendering on the printer. >> >> >> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@microsoft.online.com> wrote in >> message news:u3qOcws%23FHA.2452@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >>> There is no context that I am aware of that would explin how the >>> PrintPreview issue you refer to relates to the TextRenderer. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> MichKa [Microsoft] >>> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >>> Globalization Infrastructure, Fonts, and Tools >>> Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap >>> >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with >>> no warranties, and confers no rights. >>> >>> >>> >>> "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message >>> news:%23XxpnCs%23FHA.3852@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >>>> hoho... >>>> I see..... >>>> >>>> And what about my printing issue :-( >>>> (PrintPreview doesn't work at all!! and Print space coordinate is >>>> scaled by 3 (not 96 / 300)) >>>> >>>> Anyway I'm about to give a try to paint with the TextRenderer instead >>>> of ScriptTextOut. >>>> Hoping it might solve the print preview issue... >>>> >>>> "Michael (michka) Kaplan [MS]" <michkap@microsoft.online.com> wrote in >>>> message news:OzXf4ur%23FHA.904@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >>>>>I talk about this a little bit here: >>>>> >>>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/500485.aspx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> MichKa [Microsoft] >>>>> NLS Collation/Locale/Keyboard Technical Lead >>>>> Globalization Infrastructure, Fonts, and Tools >>>>> Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap >>>>> >>>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with >>>>> no warranties, and confers no rights. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Lloyd Dupont" <net.galador@ld> wrote in message >>>>> news:OnzPuKx8FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >>>>>>I have written m own "RichTextView" using Uniscribe. >>>>>> Now I see there is a new text rendering class: SWF.TextRenderer. >>>>>> >>>>>> I haven't tested it out yet but it seems interesting. >>>>>> >>>>>> However I see a couple of issues with it: >>>>>> 1. It doesn't gives me bidi "run" layout information so I have to >>>>>> call uniscribe to get that >>>>>> 2. It only gives me string width, if I want to wrap my text around >>>>>> some boundary I have either to call MeasureText repitively or I have >>>>>> to use Uniscribe again >>>>>> 3. It doesn't gives me cluster boundary for caret placement >>>>>> 4. If I render unsuported char/glyph I don't know which kind of font >>>>>> fall back mechanism it uses so I'm not sure my measurement (which I >>>>>> should do with Uniscribe for reason 1,2,3) will fit the new drawing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there any plan to improve these issues? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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