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Visual Studio compiles slowly, low CPU usage
I'm currently experiencing a strange phenomenon: At my Office, Visual Studio takes a very long time to compile our solution (more than 1 minute for the first project). At home, Visual Studio compiles the same solution much faster (about 10 seconds for the first project). My home computer is only marginally faster than the one I have at the office (P4 2.53 vs. P4 2.4, same amount of RAM). On the slow machine, the CPU usage is very low, especially at the end of the compilation phase (once the progress bar is at the end, waiting for the "build complete" message). This low CPU phase seems to account for the difference in overall time. There is no other process taking CPU during that time (the "overall" CPU usage is 0 or very close to 0). Also, we observe the same slowness on all the machines that we have in our office. And the behavior is not due to the corporate antivirus because we turned it off. I'm puzzled (and a bit frustrated). Could this be due to the fact that we are on a corporate LAN and that .NET needs to run more expensive security checks that block on network requests. This my only hypothesis so far because I saw small bursts of activity in lsass.exe during the low CPU phase. Anybody experienced something like this? Any clues on what could cause this? Bruno.
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:20:35 +0200, "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" [quoted text, click to view] <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> wrote: >I'm currently experiencing a strange phenomenon: > >At my Office, Visual Studio takes a very long time to compile our solution >(more than 1 minute for the first project). >At home, Visual Studio compiles the same solution much faster (about 10 >seconds for the first project). > >My home computer is only marginally faster than the one I have at the office >(P4 2.53 vs. P4 2.4, same amount of RAM). >On the slow machine, the CPU usage is very low, especially at the end of the >compilation phase (once the progress bar is at the end, waiting for the >"build complete" message). This low CPU phase seems to account for the >difference in overall time. There is no other process taking CPU during that >time (the "overall" CPU usage is 0 or very close to 0). > >Also, we observe the same slowness on all the machines that we have in our >office. And the behavior is not due to the corporate antivirus because we >turned it off. > >I'm puzzled (and a bit frustrated). Could this be due to the fact that we >are on a corporate LAN and that .NET needs to run more expensive security >checks that block on network requests. This my only hypothesis so far >because I saw small bursts of activity in lsass.exe during the low CPU >phase.
Could be... I know it is possible to run VS.net for a group of developpers on a server... Most likely at your workplace, the VS.net will be running from a server (hence the 'overall CPU usage' being so low) end thus needs to be shared with your co-workers... Bully them untill they give up using it whenever you need it ;) How did you perform the installation of VS.net? Was it installed localy (if so, my answer here is not to be considered)? --
[quoted text, click to view] "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> wrote in message news:<eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>... > I'm currently experiencing a strange phenomenon: > > At my Office, Visual Studio takes a very long time to compile our solution > (more than 1 minute for the first project). > At home, Visual Studio compiles the same solution much faster (about 10 > seconds for the first project). > > My home computer is only marginally faster than the one I have at the office > (P4 2.53 vs. P4 2.4, same amount of RAM). > On the slow machine, the CPU usage is very low, especially at the end of the > compilation phase (once the progress bar is at the end, waiting for the > "build complete" message). This low CPU phase seems to account for the > difference in overall time. There is no other process taking CPU during that > time (the "overall" CPU usage is 0 or very close to 0). > > Also, we observe the same slowness on all the machines that we have in our > office. And the behavior is not due to the corporate antivirus because we > turned it off. > > I'm puzzled (and a bit frustrated). Could this be due to the fact that we > are on a corporate LAN and that .NET needs to run more expensive security > checks that block on network requests. This my only hypothesis so far > because I saw small bursts of activity in lsass.exe during the low CPU > phase. > > Anybody experienced something like this? Any clues on what could cause this? > > Bruno.
OK so the usual suspects are absent (Anti-Virus and Network Read/Writes) lets look a bit deeper. 1) What OS and Service Packs are you running? 2) What other processes are running in the background? 3) Have you run Performance Monitor to check CPU / Disk / LSASS.EXE
I've experienced this problem when the source files have been stored on a network drive. In my case it turned out to be a slow router and changing it with a hub solved the problem. What transfer rate are you getting from your server? The best solution would probably be to use sourcesafe, that way all files are on your local machine and network speed is not important. -- Michael Culley
Visual Studio is installed locally and the source files are local too (we use CVS as source code control). So the explanation is somewhere else. Thanks anyway for the quick reply. Bruno "NULL" <Thomas_Delrue@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:rp77lv8gasna6l4n51b1jc8vfeb4quj24c@4ax.com... [quoted text, click to view] > On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:20:35 +0200, "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" > <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> wrote: > > >I'm currently experiencing a strange phenomenon: > > > >At my Office, Visual Studio takes a very long time to compile our solution > >(more than 1 minute for the first project). > >At home, Visual Studio compiles the same solution much faster (about 10 > >seconds for the first project). > > > >My home computer is only marginally faster than the one I have at the office > >(P4 2.53 vs. P4 2.4, same amount of RAM). > >On the slow machine, the CPU usage is very low, especially at the end of the > >compilation phase (once the progress bar is at the end, waiting for the > >"build complete" message). This low CPU phase seems to account for the > >difference in overall time. There is no other process taking CPU during that > >time (the "overall" CPU usage is 0 or very close to 0). > > > >Also, we observe the same slowness on all the machines that we have in our > >office. And the behavior is not due to the corporate antivirus because we > >turned it off. > > > >I'm puzzled (and a bit frustrated). Could this be due to the fact that we > >are on a corporate LAN and that .NET needs to run more expensive security > >checks that block on network requests. This my only hypothesis so far > >because I saw small bursts of activity in lsass.exe during the low CPU > >phase. > > Could be... I know it is possible to run VS.net for a group of > developpers on a server... Most likely at your workplace, the VS.net > will be running from a server (hence the 'overall CPU usage' being so > low) end thus needs to be shared with your co-workers... > > Bully them untill they give up using it whenever you need it ;) > > How did you perform the installation of VS.net? Was it installed > localy (if so, my answer here is not to be considered)? > > -- > NULL
Visual Studio is installed locally and the source files are local too (we use CVS as source code control). So the explanation is somewhere else. Thanks anyway for the quick reply. Bruno "Michael Culley" <mculley@NOSPAMoptushome.com.au> a écrit dans le message de news:udarKWNcDHA.3748@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > I've experienced this problem when the source files have been stored on a network drive. In my case it turned out to be a slow > router and changing it with a hub solved the problem. What transfer rate are you getting from your server? > > The best solution would probably be to use sourcesafe, that way all files are on your local machine and network speed is not > important. > > -- > Michael Culley > >
Visual Studio is installed locally and the source files are local too (we use CVS as source code control). So the explanation is somewhere else. Thanks anyway for the quick reply. Bruno "Michael Culley" <mculley@NOSPAMoptushome.com.au> a écrit dans le message de news:udarKWNcDHA.3748@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > I've experienced this problem when the source files have been stored on a network drive. In my case it turned out to be a slow > router and changing it with a hub solved the problem. What transfer rate are you getting from your server? > > The best solution would probably be to use sourcesafe, that way all files are on your local machine and network speed is not > important. > > -- > Michael Culley > >
Bruno, Make sure your disk is being slowed down by something like a defrag, that will slow things down. Regards Lee [quoted text, click to view] "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> wrote in message news:eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > I'm currently experiencing a strange phenomenon: > > At my Office, Visual Studio takes a very long time to compile our solution > (more than 1 minute for the first project). > At home, Visual Studio compiles the same solution much faster (about 10 > seconds for the first project). > > My home computer is only marginally faster than the one I have at the office > (P4 2.53 vs. P4 2.4, same amount of RAM). > On the slow machine, the CPU usage is very low, especially at the end of the > compilation phase (once the progress bar is at the end, waiting for the > "build complete" message). This low CPU phase seems to account for the > difference in overall time. There is no other process taking CPU during that > time (the "overall" CPU usage is 0 or very close to 0). > > Also, we observe the same slowness on all the machines that we have in our > office. And the behavior is not due to the corporate antivirus because we > turned it off. > > I'm puzzled (and a bit frustrated). Could this be due to the fact that we > are on a corporate LAN and that .NET needs to run more expensive security > checks that block on network requests. This my only hypothesis so far > because I saw small bursts of activity in lsass.exe during the low CPU > phase. > > Anybody experienced something like this? Any clues on what could cause this? > > Bruno. > >
H Bruno, Could it be because you have network shares/drives in your PATH? I've had similar problems caused by a network share on a computer that was offline. Regards, Bert [quoted text, click to view] "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> wrote in message news:eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > I'm currently experiencing a strange phenomenon: > > At my Office, Visual Studio takes a very long time to compile our solution > (more than 1 minute for the first project). > At home, Visual Studio compiles the same solution much faster (about 10 > seconds for the first project). > > My home computer is only marginally faster than the one I have at the office > (P4 2.53 vs. P4 2.4, same amount of RAM). > On the slow machine, the CPU usage is very low, especially at the end of the > compilation phase (once the progress bar is at the end, waiting for the > "build complete" message). This low CPU phase seems to account for the > difference in overall time. There is no other process taking CPU during that > time (the "overall" CPU usage is 0 or very close to 0). > > Also, we observe the same slowness on all the machines that we have in our > office. And the behavior is not due to the corporate antivirus because we > turned it off. > > I'm puzzled (and a bit frustrated). Could this be due to the fact that we > are on a corporate LAN and that .NET needs to run more expensive security > checks that block on network requests. This my only hypothesis so far > because I saw small bursts of activity in lsass.exe during the low CPU > phase. > > Anybody experienced something like this? Any clues on what could cause this? > > Bruno. > >
Could you possibly have the BLASTER visus worm ? [quoted text, click to view] "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> wrote in message news:eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > I'm currently experiencing a strange phenomenon: > > At my Office, Visual Studio takes a very long time to compile our solution > (more than 1 minute for the first project). > At home, Visual Studio compiles the same solution much faster (about 10 > seconds for the first project). > > My home computer is only marginally faster than the one I have at the office > (P4 2.53 vs. P4 2.4, same amount of RAM). > On the slow machine, the CPU usage is very low, especially at the end of the > compilation phase (once the progress bar is at the end, waiting for the > "build complete" message). This low CPU phase seems to account for the > difference in overall time. There is no other process taking CPU during that > time (the "overall" CPU usage is 0 or very close to 0). > > Also, we observe the same slowness on all the machines that we have in our > office. And the behavior is not due to the corporate antivirus because we > turned it off. > > I'm puzzled (and a bit frustrated). Could this be due to the fact that we > are on a corporate LAN and that .NET needs to run more expensive security > checks that block on network requests. This my only hypothesis so far > because I saw small bursts of activity in lsass.exe during the low CPU > phase. > > Anybody experienced something like this? Any clues on what could cause this? > > Bruno. > >
Check the installation: many "company setups" install the OS on C:, which is typically rather small, and this will get you a fragmented swapdisk, and the system is always searching for room to write the temporary files... Searchpath can also be critical (especially on nonexsitant drives <g>) HTH thomas "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:eqzCksRcDHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Visual Studio is installed locally and the source files are local too (we > use CVS as source code control). > So the explanation is somewhere else. > > Thanks anyway for the quick reply. > > Bruno > > "NULL" <Thomas_Delrue@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de > news:rp77lv8gasna6l4n51b1jc8vfeb4quj24c@4ax.com... > > On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:20:35 +0200, "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" > > <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> wrote: > > > > >I'm currently experiencing a strange phenomenon: > > > > > >At my Office, Visual Studio takes a very long time to compile our > solution > > >(more than 1 minute for the first project). > > >At home, Visual Studio compiles the same solution much faster (about 10 > > >seconds for the first project). > > > > > >My home computer is only marginally faster than the one I have at the > office > > >(P4 2.53 vs. P4 2.4, same amount of RAM). > > >On the slow machine, the CPU usage is very low, especially at the end of > the > > >compilation phase (once the progress bar is at the end, waiting for the > > >"build complete" message). This low CPU phase seems to account for the > > >difference in overall time. There is no other process taking CPU during > that > > >time (the "overall" CPU usage is 0 or very close to 0). > > > > > >Also, we observe the same slowness on all the machines that we have in > our > > >office. And the behavior is not due to the corporate antivirus because we > > >turned it off. > > > > > >I'm puzzled (and a bit frustrated). Could this be due to the fact that we > > >are on a corporate LAN and that .NET needs to run more expensive security > > >checks that block on network requests. This my only hypothesis so far > > >because I saw small bursts of activity in lsass.exe during the low CPU > > >phase. > > > > Could be... I know it is possible to run VS.net for a group of > > developpers on a server... Most likely at your workplace, the VS.net > > will be running from a server (hence the 'overall CPU usage' being so > > low) end thus needs to be shared with your co-workers... > > > > Bully them untill they give up using it whenever you need it ;) > > > > How did you perform the installation of VS.net? Was it installed > > localy (if so, my answer here is not to be considered)? > > > > -- > > NULL > >
C drive cannot be the culprit because there is only one drive (C:) and there is plenty of room on it. I'm going to check the searchpath. Thanks for the pointer. Bruno. "Thomas Ganss" <TGanss@t-online.de> a écrit dans le message de news:bj1s8q$5re$00$1@news.t-online.com... [quoted text, click to view] > Check the installation: > many "company setups" install the OS on C:, > which is typically rather small, and this will get you a > fragmented swapdisk, and the system is always searching for > room to write the temporary files... > > Searchpath can also be critical (especially on nonexsitant > drives <g>) > > HTH > > thomas > > "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > news:eqzCksRcDHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > > Visual Studio is installed locally and the source files are local too (we > > use CVS as source code control). > > So the explanation is somewhere else. > > > > Thanks anyway for the quick reply. > > > > Bruno > > > > "NULL" <Thomas_Delrue@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de > > news:rp77lv8gasna6l4n51b1jc8vfeb4quj24c@4ax.com... > > > On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:20:35 +0200, "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" > > > <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> wrote: > > > > > > >I'm currently experiencing a strange phenomenon: > > > > > > > >At my Office, Visual Studio takes a very long time to compile our > > solution > > > >(more than 1 minute for the first project). > > > >At home, Visual Studio compiles the same solution much faster (about 10 > > > >seconds for the first project). > > > > > > > >My home computer is only marginally faster than the one I have at the > > office > > > >(P4 2.53 vs. P4 2.4, same amount of RAM). > > > >On the slow machine, the CPU usage is very low, especially at the end > of > > the > > > >compilation phase (once the progress bar is at the end, waiting for the > > > >"build complete" message). This low CPU phase seems to account for the > > > >difference in overall time. There is no other process taking CPU during > > that > > > >time (the "overall" CPU usage is 0 or very close to 0). > > > > > > > >Also, we observe the same slowness on all the machines that we have in > > our > > > >office. And the behavior is not due to the corporate antivirus because > we > > > >turned it off. > > > > > > > >I'm puzzled (and a bit frustrated). Could this be due to the fact that > we > > > >are on a corporate LAN and that .NET needs to run more expensive > security > > > >checks that block on network requests. This my only hypothesis so far > > > >because I saw small bursts of activity in lsass.exe during the low CPU > > > >phase. > > > > > > Could be... I know it is possible to run VS.net for a group of > > > developpers on a server... Most likely at your workplace, the VS.net > > > will be running from a server (hence the 'overall CPU usage' being so > > > low) end thus needs to be shared with your co-workers... > > > > > > Bully them untill they give up using it whenever you need it ;) > > > > > > How did you perform the installation of VS.net? Was it installed > > > localy (if so, my answer here is not to be considered)? > > > > > > -- > > > NULL > > > > > >
I have network shares but I don't think that they are in my PATH (but I'm not sure). I'll check that tomorrow (at my office). Thanks for the pointer. Bruno. "Bert Roos" <reply@to.group> a écrit dans le message de news:OO3fPVScDHA.1808@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > H Bruno, > > Could it be because you have network shares/drives in your PATH? I've had > similar problems caused by a network share on a computer that was offline. > > Regards, Bert > > "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> wrote in message > news:eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > > I'm currently experiencing a strange phenomenon: > > > > At my Office, Visual Studio takes a very long time to compile our solution > > (more than 1 minute for the first project). > > At home, Visual Studio compiles the same solution much faster (about 10 > > seconds for the first project). > > > > My home computer is only marginally faster than the one I have at the > office > > (P4 2.53 vs. P4 2.4, same amount of RAM). > > On the slow machine, the CPU usage is very low, especially at the end of > the > > compilation phase (once the progress bar is at the end, waiting for the > > "build complete" message). This low CPU phase seems to account for the > > difference in overall time. There is no other process taking CPU during > that > > time (the "overall" CPU usage is 0 or very close to 0). > > > > Also, we observe the same slowness on all the machines that we have in our > > office. And the behavior is not due to the corporate antivirus because we > > turned it off. > > > > I'm puzzled (and a bit frustrated). Could this be due to the fact that we > > are on a corporate LAN and that .NET needs to run more expensive security > > checks that block on network requests. This my only hypothesis so far > > because I saw small bursts of activity in lsass.exe during the low CPU > > phase. > > > > Anybody experienced something like this? Any clues on what could cause > this? > > > > Bruno. > > > > > >
[quoted text, click to view] > 1) What OS and Service Packs are you running?
XP pro sp1 with all the critical patches I could get from Windows Update (same on both machines). [quoted text, click to view] > 2) What other processes are running in the background?
SQL server is running (but idle). [quoted text, click to view] > 3) Have you run Performance Monitor to check CPU / Disk / LSASS.EXE > etc.
Yes and I did not see any significant activity but I need to do more research with perfmon. I did not monitor network or disk activity. Before going too deep into monitoring, I wanted to check if anybody had experienced something like this, and get the most obvious pointers. So, I'll investigate the network shares in %PATH% (see other replies) and I'll do a bit of perfmon testing if I don't find anything. Bruno.
No, I had run Windows Update a few days before the attack and my machine was protected. Also, I ran the AntiVirus after the attack and it did not find anything. So Blaster's not the culprit. Bruno. "james" <nospam@hypercon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:ubGrPDWcDHA.1656@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Could you possibly have the BLASTER visus worm ? > > > "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> wrote in message > news:eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > > I'm currently experiencing a strange phenomenon: > > > > At my Office, Visual Studio takes a very long time to compile our solution > > (more than 1 minute for the first project). > > At home, Visual Studio compiles the same solution much faster (about 10 > > seconds for the first project). > > > > My home computer is only marginally faster than the one I have at the > office > > (P4 2.53 vs. P4 2.4, same amount of RAM). > > On the slow machine, the CPU usage is very low, especially at the end of > the > > compilation phase (once the progress bar is at the end, waiting for the > > "build complete" message). This low CPU phase seems to account for the > > difference in overall time. There is no other process taking CPU during > that > > time (the "overall" CPU usage is 0 or very close to 0). > > > > Also, we observe the same slowness on all the machines that we have in our > > office. And the behavior is not due to the corporate antivirus because we > > turned it off. > > > > I'm puzzled (and a bit frustrated). Could this be due to the fact that we > > are on a corporate LAN and that .NET needs to run more expensive security > > checks that block on network requests. This my only hypothesis so far > > because I saw small bursts of activity in lsass.exe during the low CPU > > phase. > > > > Anybody experienced something like this? Any clues on what could cause > this? > > > > Bruno. > > > > > >
Hi Bruno, Are you on a Domain at work? If so see 318738 FIX: .NET Programs Are Slow to Load When Running Under a Domain http://support.microsoft.com/?id=318738 This is 'supposed' to be fixed, but might be worth a look. You may need to to have an ASPNet account set up according to the article.. Want to know more? Check out the MSDN Library at http://msdn.microsoft.com or the Microsoft Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com Scot Rose, MCSD Microsoft Visual Basic Developer Support Email : scotr@online.microsoft.com <Remove word online. from address> This posting is provided “AS IS”, with no warranties, and confers no rights. -------------------- [quoted text, click to view] >From: "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> >Subject: Visual Studio compiles slowly, low CPU usage >Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:20:35 +0200 >Lines: 30 >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 >Message-ID: <eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp,microsoft.public.dotnet.vjsharp >NNTP-Posting-Host: f06a-12-232.d1.club-internet.fr 212.194.131.232 >Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl >Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl microsoft.public.dotnet.vjsharp:4386 microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp:181364 >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp > >I'm currently experiencing a strange phenomenon: > >At my Office, Visual Studio takes a very long time to compile our solution >(more than 1 minute for the first project). >At home, Visual Studio compiles the same solution much faster (about 10 >seconds for the first project). > >My home computer is only marginally faster than the one I have at the office >(P4 2.53 vs. P4 2.4, same amount of RAM). >On the slow machine, the CPU usage is very low, especially at the end of the >compilation phase (once the progress bar is at the end, waiting for the >"build complete" message). This low CPU phase seems to account for the >difference in overall time. There is no other process taking CPU during that >time (the "overall" CPU usage is 0 or very close to 0). > >Also, we observe the same slowness on all the machines that we have in our >office. And the behavior is not due to the corporate antivirus because we >turned it off. > >I'm puzzled (and a bit frustrated). Could this be due to the fact that we >are on a corporate LAN and that .NET needs to run more expensive security >checks that block on network requests. This my only hypothesis so far >because I saw small bursts of activity in lsass.exe during the low CPU >phase. > >Anybody experienced something like this? Any clues on what could cause this? > >Bruno. > > >
Hi Scot, Yes, we are running under a domain at work, and not at home. I looked at the link but I don't think it explains our problem: * The problem is not with the .NET apps that we create but with Visual Studio .NET itself. * Visual Studio starts normally (so the problem is not at load time). The problem shows up at the end of compilation: CPU usage is very low (2% or less) and stays like this for more than 1 minute before completing and moving to the next project of our solution. * We are running Studio 2003, so the underlying framework is 1.1 rather than 1.0. One note: our solution mixes J# and C# projects. The first project that takes the longuest to compile is a J# project which is referenced by all our other projects. Depending on what we are building, we have between 5 and 46 projects in the solution but the problem does not seem to be related to the number of projects in the solution. Also, recently we have rewritten our resource handling to use the .NET mechanisms (resx files) rather than our old Java scheme, and it seems that the slow compile pb has worsened at about the same time. So, it may be related to the build of satellite assemblies. What I can't understand is why the compiler sits almost idle for long seconds before completing compilation. It really looks like it's waiting for some kind of network response (from the domain controller???). Bruno. "Scot Rose [MSFT]" <scotr@online.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message de news:SvHT8n6cDHA.2108@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Hi Bruno, Are you on a Domain at work? If so see > > 318738 FIX: .NET Programs Are Slow to Load When Running Under a Domain > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=318738 > > This is 'supposed' to be fixed, but might be worth a look. You may need to to have an ASPNet account set up according to the article.. > > Want to know more? Check out the MSDN Library at http://msdn.microsoft.com or the Microsoft Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com > > Scot Rose, MCSD > Microsoft Visual Basic Developer Support > Email : scotr@online.microsoft.com <Remove word online. from address> > > This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no rights. > > > > > -------------------- > >From: "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> > >Subject: Visual Studio compiles slowly, low CPU usage > >Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:20:35 +0200 > >Lines: 30 > >X-Priority: 3 > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 > >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 > >Message-ID: <eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> > >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp,microsoft.public.dotnet.vjsharp > >NNTP-Posting-Host: f06a-12-232.d1.club-internet.fr 212.194.131.232 > >Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl > >Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl microsoft.public.dotnet.vjsharp:4386 microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp:181364 > >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp > > > >I'm currently experiencing a strange phenomenon: > > > >At my Office, Visual Studio takes a very long time to compile our solution > >(more than 1 minute for the first project). > >At home, Visual Studio compiles the same solution much faster (about 10 > >seconds for the first project). > > > >My home computer is only marginally faster than the one I have at the office > >(P4 2.53 vs. P4 2.4, same amount of RAM). > >On the slow machine, the CPU usage is very low, especially at the end of the > >compilation phase (once the progress bar is at the end, waiting for the > >"build complete" message). This low CPU phase seems to account for the > >difference in overall time. There is no other process taking CPU during that > >time (the "overall" CPU usage is 0 or very close to 0). > > > >Also, we observe the same slowness on all the machines that we have in our > >office. And the behavior is not due to the corporate antivirus because we > >turned it off. > > > >I'm puzzled (and a bit frustrated). Could this be due to the fact that we > >are on a corporate LAN and that .NET needs to run more expensive security > >checks that block on network requests. This my only hypothesis so far > >because I saw small bursts of activity in lsass.exe during the low CPU > >phase. > > > >Anybody experienced something like this? Any clues on what could cause this? > > > >Bruno. > > > > > > > >
Yes, BUT the .Net environment somehow has to see the ASP net User (Acording to that article) thats why I brought it up. Make sure that account exists and has proper permissions... Want to know more? Check out the MSDN Library at http://msdn.microsoft.com or the Microsoft Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com Scot Rose, MCSD Microsoft Visual Basic Developer Support Email : scotr@online.microsoft.com <Remove word online. from address> This posting is provided “AS IS”, with no warranties, and confers no rights. -------------------- [quoted text, click to view] >From: "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> >References: <eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> <SvHT8n6cDHA.2108@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> >Subject: Re: Visual Studio compiles slowly, low CPU usage >Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:36:14 +0200 >Lines: 116 >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 >Message-ID: <ubSSc1#cDHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp >NNTP-Posting-Host: f13v-10-213.d1.club-internet.fr 212.195.181.213 >Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl >Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp:182726 >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp > >Hi Scot, > >Yes, we are running under a domain at work, and not at home. I looked at the >link but I don't think it explains our problem: > >* The problem is not with the .NET apps that we create but with Visual >Studio .NET itself. > >* Visual Studio starts normally (so the problem is not at load time). The >problem shows up at the end of compilation: CPU usage is very low (2% or >less) and stays like this for more than 1 minute before completing and >moving to the next project of our solution. > >* We are running Studio 2003, so the underlying framework is 1.1 rather than >1.0. > >One note: our solution mixes J# and C# projects. The first project that >takes the longuest to compile is a J# project which is referenced by all our >other projects. Depending on what we are building, we have between 5 and 46 >projects in the solution but the problem does not seem to be related to the >number of projects in the solution. > >Also, recently we have rewritten our resource handling to use the .NET >mechanisms (resx files) rather than our old Java scheme, and it seems that >the slow compile pb has worsened at about the same time. So, it may be >related to the build of satellite assemblies. > >What I can't understand is why the compiler sits almost idle for long >seconds before completing compilation. It really looks like it's waiting for >some kind of network response (from the domain controller???). > >Bruno. > > >"Scot Rose [MSFT]" <scotr@online.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message de >news:SvHT8n6cDHA.2108@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl... >> Hi Bruno, Are you on a Domain at work? If so see >> >> 318738 FIX: .NET Programs Are Slow to Load When Running Under a Domain >> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=318738 >> >> This is 'supposed' to be fixed, but might be worth a look. You may need to >to have an ASPNet account set up according to the article.. >> >> Want to know more? Check out the MSDN Library at http://msdn.microsoft.com >or the Microsoft Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com >> >> Scot Rose, MCSD >> Microsoft Visual Basic Developer Support >> Email : scotr@online.microsoft.com <Remove word online. from address> >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no >rights. >> >> >> >> >> -------------------- >> >From: "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> >> >Subject: Visual Studio compiles slowly, low CPU usage >> >Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:20:35 +0200 >> >Lines: 30 >> >X-Priority: 3 >> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >> >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 >> >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 >> >Message-ID: <eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> >> >Newsgroups: >microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp,microsoft.public.dotnet.vjsharp >> >NNTP-Posting-Host: f06a-12-232.d1.club-internet.fr 212.194.131.232 >> >Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl >> >Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl microsoft.public.dotnet.vjsharp:4386 >microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp:181364 >> >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp >> > >> >I'm currently experiencing a strange phenomenon: >> > >> >At my Office, Visual Studio takes a very long time to compile our >solution >> >(more than 1 minute for the first project). >> >At home, Visual Studio compiles the same solution much faster (about 10 >> >seconds for the first project). >> > >> >My home computer is only marginally faster than the one I have at the >office >> >(P4 2.53 vs. P4 2.4, same amount of RAM). >> >On the slow machine, the CPU usage is very low, especially at the end of >the >> >compilation phase (once the progress bar is at the end, waiting for the >> >"build complete" message). This low CPU phase seems to account for the >> >difference in overall time. There is no other process taking CPU during >that >> >time (the "overall" CPU usage is 0 or very close to 0). >> > >> >Also, we observe the same slowness on all the machines that we have in >our >> >office. And the behavior is not due to the corporate antivirus because we >> >turned it off. >> > >> >I'm puzzled (and a bit frustrated). Could this be due to the fact that we >> >are on a corporate LAN and that .NET needs to run more expensive security >> >checks that block on network requests. This my only hypothesis so far >> >because I saw small bursts of activity in lsass.exe during the low CPU >> >phase. >> > >> >Anybody experienced something like this? Any clues on what could cause >this? >> > >> >Bruno. >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > >
Hi Scot, The ASPNET user exists (we really need it because we are developing a web app). So the problem must be somewhere else. Thanks anyway for the info. Bruno. "Scot Rose [MSFT]" <scotr@online.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message de news:6DwY50hdDHA.2116@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Yes, BUT the .Net environment somehow has to see the ASP net User
(Acording to that article) thats why I brought it up. Make sure that account exists and has proper [quoted text, click to view] > permissions... > > Want to know more? Check out the MSDN Library at http://msdn.microsoft.com or the Microsoft Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com > > Scot Rose, MCSD > Microsoft Visual Basic Developer Support > Email : scotr@online.microsoft.com <Remove word online. from address> > > This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no rights. > > > > > -------------------- > >From: "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> > >References: <eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> <SvHT8n6cDHA.2108@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> > >Subject: Re: Visual Studio compiles slowly, low CPU usage > >Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:36:14 +0200 > >Lines: 116 > >X-Priority: 3 > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 > >Message-ID: <ubSSc1#cDHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> > >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp > >NNTP-Posting-Host: f13v-10-213.d1.club-internet.fr 212.195.181.213 > >Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl > >Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp:182726 > >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp > > > >Hi Scot, > > > >Yes, we are running under a domain at work, and not at home. I looked at the > >link but I don't think it explains our problem: > > > >* The problem is not with the .NET apps that we create but with Visual > >Studio .NET itself. > > > >* Visual Studio starts normally (so the problem is not at load time). The > >problem shows up at the end of compilation: CPU usage is very low (2% or > >less) and stays like this for more than 1 minute before completing and > >moving to the next project of our solution. > > > >* We are running Studio 2003, so the underlying framework is 1.1 rather than > >1.0. > > > >One note: our solution mixes J# and C# projects. The first project that > >takes the longuest to compile is a J# project which is referenced by all our > >other projects. Depending on what we are building, we have between 5 and 46 > >projects in the solution but the problem does not seem to be related to the > >number of projects in the solution. > > > >Also, recently we have rewritten our resource handling to use the .NET > >mechanisms (resx files) rather than our old Java scheme, and it seems that > >the slow compile pb has worsened at about the same time. So, it may be > >related to the build of satellite assemblies. > > > >What I can't understand is why the compiler sits almost idle for long > >seconds before completing compilation. It really looks like it's waiting for > >some kind of network response (from the domain controller???). > > > >Bruno. > > > > > >"Scot Rose [MSFT]" <scotr@online.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message de > >news:SvHT8n6cDHA.2108@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl... > >> Hi Bruno, Are you on a Domain at work? If so see > >> > >> 318738 FIX: .NET Programs Are Slow to Load When Running Under a Domain > >> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=318738 > >> > >> This is 'supposed' to be fixed, but might be worth a look. You may need to > >to have an ASPNet account set up according to the article.. > >> > >> Want to know more? Check out the MSDN Library at http://msdn.microsoft.com > >or the Microsoft Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com > >> > >> Scot Rose, MCSD > >> Microsoft Visual Basic Developer Support > >> Email : scotr@online.microsoft.com <Remove word online. from address> > >> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no > >rights. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -------------------- > >> >From: "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> > >> >Subject: Visual Studio compiles slowly, low CPU usage > >> >Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:20:35 +0200 > >> >Lines: 30 > >> >X-Priority: 3 > >> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >> >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 > >> >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 > >> >Message-ID: <eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> > >> >Newsgroups: > >microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp,microsoft.public.dotnet.vjsharp > >> >NNTP-Posting-Host: f06a-12-232.d1.club-internet.fr 212.194.131.232 > >> >Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl > >> >Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl microsoft.public.dotnet.vjsharp:4386 > >microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp:181364 > >> >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp > >> > > >> >I'm currently experiencing a strange phenomenon: > >> > > >> >At my Office, Visual Studio takes a very long time to compile our > >solution > >> >(more than 1 minute for the first project). > >> >At home, Visual Studio compiles the same solution much faster (about 10 > >> >seconds for the first project). > >> > > >> >My home computer is only marginally faster than the one I have at the > >office > >> >(P4 2.53 vs. P4 2.4, same amount of RAM). > >> >On the slow machine, the CPU usage is very low, especially at the end of > >the > >> >compilation phase (once the progress bar is at the end, waiting for the > >> >"build complete" message). This low CPU phase seems to account for the > >> >difference in overall time. There is no other process taking CPU during > >that > >> >time (the "overall" CPU usage is 0 or very close to 0). > >> > > >> >Also, we observe the same slowness on all the machines that we have in > >our > >> >office. And the behavior is not due to the corporate antivirus because we > >> >turned it off. > >> > > >> >I'm puzzled (and a bit frustrated). Could this be due to the fact that we > >> >are on a corporate LAN and that .NET needs to run more expensive security > >> >checks that block on network requests. This my only hypothesis so far > >> >because I saw small bursts of activity in lsass.exe during the low CPU > >> >phase. > >> > > >> >Anybody experienced something like this? Any clues on what could cause > >this? > >> > > >> >Bruno. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
Could Name resolution possibley be the issue? Perhaps you could put an entry for the machine where the files are located in the HOSTS file and see if that resolves the problem. Its a long shot but it could be that simple... Scot Rose, MCSD Microsoft Visual Basic Developer Support Email : scotr@online.microsoft.com <Remove word online. from address> This posting is provided “AS IS”, with no warranties, and confers no rights. -------------------- [quoted text, click to view] >From: "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> >References: <eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> <SvHT8n6cDHA.2108@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> <ubSSc1#cDHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> <6DwY50hdDHA.2116@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> >Subject: Re: Visual Studio compiles slowly, low CPU usage >Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:44:24 +0200 >Lines: 185 >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 >Message-ID: <eJzbQ3pdDHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl> >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp >NNTP-Posting-Host: f14m-9-109.d1.club-internet.fr 212.195.96.109 >Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl >Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp:183360 >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp > >Hi Scot, > >The ASPNET user exists (we really need it because we are developing a web >app). So the problem must be somewhere else. > >Thanks anyway for the info. > >Bruno. >"Scot Rose [MSFT]" <scotr@online.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message de >news:6DwY50hdDHA.2116@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl... >> Yes, BUT the .Net environment somehow has to see the ASP net User >(Acording to that article) thats why I brought it up. Make sure that account >exists and has proper >> permissions... >> >> Want to know more? Check out the MSDN Library at http://msdn.microsoft.com >or the Microsoft Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com >> >> Scot Rose, MCSD >> Microsoft Visual Basic Developer Support >> Email : scotr@online.microsoft.com <Remove word online. from address> >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no >rights. >> >> >> >> >> -------------------- >> >From: "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> >> >References: <eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> ><SvHT8n6cDHA.2108@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> >> >Subject: Re: Visual Studio compiles slowly, low CPU usage >> >Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:36:14 +0200 >> >Lines: 116 >> >X-Priority: 3 >> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >> >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 >> >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 >> >Message-ID: <ubSSc1#cDHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> >> >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp >> >NNTP-Posting-Host: f13v-10-213.d1.club-internet.fr 212.195.181.213 >> >Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl >> >Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl >microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp:182726 >> >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp >> > >> >Hi Scot, >> > >> >Yes, we are running under a domain at work, and not at home. I looked at >the >> >link but I don't think it explains our problem: >> > >> >* The problem is not with the .NET apps that we create but with Visual >> >Studio .NET itself. >> > >> >* Visual Studio starts normally (so the problem is not at load time). The >> >problem shows up at the end of compilation: CPU usage is very low (2% or >> >less) and stays like this for more than 1 minute before completing and >> >moving to the next project of our solution. >> > >> >* We are running Studio 2003, so the underlying framework is 1.1 rather >than >> >1.0. >> > >> >One note: our solution mixes J# and C# projects. The first project that >> >takes the longuest to compile is a J# project which is referenced by all >our >> >other projects. Depending on what we are building, we have between 5 and >46 >> >projects in the solution but the problem does not seem to be related to >the >> >number of projects in the solution. >> > >> >Also, recently we have rewritten our resource handling to use the .NET >> >mechanisms (resx files) rather than our old Java scheme, and it seems >that >> >the slow compile pb has worsened at about the same time. So, it may be >> >related to the build of satellite assemblies. >> > >> >What I can't understand is why the compiler sits almost idle for long >> >seconds before completing compilation. It really looks like it's waiting >for >> >some kind of network response (from the domain controller???). >> > >> >Bruno. >> > >> > >> >"Scot Rose [MSFT]" <scotr@online.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message >de >> >news:SvHT8n6cDHA.2108@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl... >> >> Hi Bruno, Are you on a Domain at work? If so see >> >> >> >> 318738 FIX: .NET Programs Are Slow to Load When Running Under a Domain >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=318738 >> >> >> >> This is 'supposed' to be fixed, but might be worth a look. You may need >to >> >to have an ASPNet account set up according to the article.. >> >> >> >> Want to know more? Check out the MSDN Library at > http://msdn.microsoft.com >> >or the Microsoft Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com >> >> >> >> Scot Rose, MCSD >> >> Microsoft Visual Basic Developer Support >> >> Email : scotr@online.microsoft.com <Remove word online. from address> >> >> >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no >> >rights. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------- >> >> >From: "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> >> >> >Subject: Visual Studio compiles slowly, low CPU usage >> >> >Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:20:35 +0200 >> >> >Lines: 30 >> >> >X-Priority: 3 >> >> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >> >> >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 >> >> >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 >> >> >Message-ID: <eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> >> >> >Newsgroups: >> >microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp,microsoft.public.dotnet.vjsharp >> >> >NNTP-Posting-Host: f06a-12-232.d1.club-internet.fr 212.194.131.232 >> >> >Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl >> >> >Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl microsoft.public.dotnet.vjsharp:4386 >> >microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp:181364 >> >> >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp >> >> > >> >> >I'm currently experiencing a strange phenomenon: >> >> > >> >> >At my Office, Visual Studio takes a very long time to compile our >> >solution >> >> >(more than 1 minute for the first project). >> >> >At home, Visual Studio compiles the same solution much faster (about >10 >> >> >seconds for the first project). >> >> > >> >> >My home computer is only marginally faster than the one I have at the >> >office
Hi Scot, The files (Studio and source) are on the local disk. Actually, I crossposted on microsoft.public.dotnet.vjsharp and Michael Green (MS) suggested that I unplug the network cable. I tried it and it fixed the problem. The results are the following: With network cable: First project: 110 s Whole solution: 240 s Without network cable: First project: 20s Whole solution 150 s So, the compiler wastes 1 min 30 s if the network cable is connected. And only the first project of the solution is affected. Strange! This shows 2 things: * Everything is installed locally, because I can build with the network cable unplugged. * VStudio is doing something strange over the network at the end of the first project build. Michael suggests that I run netmon to investigate what is going on through the wire but I don't have time to investigate this right now. I just turned my machine around so that I can easily unplug the net cable before compiling. Problem is that the fan is a bit noisy! Bruno. "Scot Rose [MSFT]" <scotr@online.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message de news:EkwQRhGeDHA.2420@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Could Name resolution possibley be the issue? Perhaps you could put an
entry for the machine where the files are located in the HOSTS file and see if that resolves the problem. [quoted text, click to view] > Its a long shot but it could be that simple... > > Scot Rose, MCSD > Microsoft Visual Basic Developer Support > Email : scotr@online.microsoft.com <Remove word online. from address> > > This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no rights. > > > > > -------------------- > >From: "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> > >References: <eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>
<SvHT8n6cDHA.2108@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> <ubSSc1#cDHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> [quoted text, click to view] > <6DwY50hdDHA.2116@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> > >Subject: Re: Visual Studio compiles slowly, low CPU usage > >Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:44:24 +0200 > >Lines: 185 > >X-Priority: 3 > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 > >Message-ID: <eJzbQ3pdDHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl> > >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp > >NNTP-Posting-Host: f14m-9-109.d1.club-internet.fr 212.195.96.109 > >Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl > >Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp:183360 > >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp > > > >Hi Scot, > > > >The ASPNET user exists (we really need it because we are developing a web > >app). So the problem must be somewhere else. > > > >Thanks anyway for the info. > > > >Bruno. > >"Scot Rose [MSFT]" <scotr@online.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message de > >news:6DwY50hdDHA.2116@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl... > >> Yes, BUT the .Net environment somehow has to see the ASP net User > >(Acording to that article) thats why I brought it up. Make sure that account > >exists and has proper > >> permissions... > >> > >> Want to know more? Check out the MSDN Library at http://msdn.microsoft.com > >or the Microsoft Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com > >> > >> Scot Rose, MCSD > >> Microsoft Visual Basic Developer Support > >> Email : scotr@online.microsoft.com <Remove word online. from address> > >> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no > >rights. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -------------------- > >> >From: "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> > >> >References: <eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> > ><SvHT8n6cDHA.2108@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> > >> >Subject: Re: Visual Studio compiles slowly, low CPU usage > >> >Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:36:14 +0200 > >> >Lines: 116 > >> >X-Priority: 3 > >> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >> >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 > >> >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 > >> >Message-ID: <ubSSc1#cDHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> > >> >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp > >> >NNTP-Posting-Host: f13v-10-213.d1.club-internet.fr 212.195.181.213 > >> >Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl > >> >Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl > >microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp:182726 > >> >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp > >> > > >> >Hi Scot, > >> > > >> >Yes, we are running under a domain at work, and not at home. I looked at > >the > >> >link but I don't think it explains our problem: > >> > > >> >* The problem is not with the .NET apps that we create but with Visual > >> >Studio .NET itself. > >> > > >> >* Visual Studio starts normally (so the problem is not at load time). The > >> >problem shows up at the end of compilation: CPU usage is very low (2% or > >> >less) and stays like this for more than 1 minute before completing and > >> >moving to the next project of our solution. > >> > > >> >* We are running Studio 2003, so the underlying framework is 1.1 rather > >than > >> >1.0. > >> > > >> >One note: our solution mixes J# and C# projects. The first project that > >> >takes the longuest to compile is a J# project which is referenced by all > >our > >> >other projects. Depending on what we are building, we have between 5 and > >46 > >> >projects in the solution but the problem does not seem to be related to > >the > >> >number of projects in the solution. > >> > > >> >Also, recently we have rewritten our resource handling to use the .NET > >> >mechanisms (resx files) rather than our old Java scheme, and it seems > >that > >> >the slow compile pb has worsened at about the same time. So, it may be > >> >related to the build of satellite assemblies. > >> > > >> >What I can't understand is why the compiler sits almost idle for long > >> >seconds before completing compilation. It really looks like it's waiting > >for > >> >some kind of network response (from the domain controller???). > >> > > >> >Bruno. > >> > > >> > > >> >"Scot Rose [MSFT]" <scotr@online.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message > >de > >> >news:SvHT8n6cDHA.2108@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl... > >> >> Hi Bruno, Are you on a Domain at work? If so see > >> >> > >> >> 318738 FIX: .NET Programs Are Slow to Load When Running Under a Domain > >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=318738 > >> >> > >> >> This is 'supposed' to be fixed, but might be worth a look. You may need > >to > >> >to have an ASPNet account set up according to the article.. > >> >> > >> >> Want to know more? Check out the MSDN Library at > > http://msdn.microsoft.com > >> >or the Microsoft Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com > >> >> > >> >> Scot Rose, MCSD > >> >> Microsoft Visual Basic Developer Support > >> >> Email : scotr@online.microsoft.com <Remove word online. from address>
[quoted text, click to view] > Everything's > local: source code, dev tools but also testing/debugging environment. We > test on localhost (so each of us can test on his own machine).
Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of the windows kernel, or deep in the bowels of the framework? Could be any name. Chris
Problem could be name resolution as I mentined before... Put the IP Address of teh Web Server in the Hosts file and see what happens... Checking a Netmon trace is probably definately the way to go to resolve this in the future. Scot Rose, MCSD Microsoft Visual Basic Developer Support Email : scotr@online.microsoft.com <Remove word online. from address> This posting is provided “AS IS”, with no warranties, and confers no rights. Get Secure! http://www.microsoft.com/security http://www.microsoft.com/protect -------------------- [quoted text, click to view] >From: "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> >References: <eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> <SvHT8n6cDHA.2108@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> <ubSSc1#cDHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> <6DwY50hdDHA.2116@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> <eJzbQ3pdDHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl> <EkwQRhGeDHA.2420@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> >Subject: Re: Visual Studio compiles slowly, low CPU usage >Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:57:47 +0200 >Lines: 289 >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 >Message-ID: <emEt34IeDHA.1824@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp >NNTP-Posting-Host: f15v-1-14.d1.club-internet.fr 212.195.192.14 >Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGXA05.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl >Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp:184163 >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp > >Hi Scot, > >The files (Studio and source) are on the local disk. > >Actually, I crossposted on microsoft.public.dotnet.vjsharp and Michael Green >(MS) suggested that I unplug the network cable. >I tried it and it fixed the problem. The results are the following: > >With network cable: > First project: 110 s > Whole solution: 240 s > >Without network cable: > First project: 20s > Whole solution 150 s > >So, the compiler wastes 1 min 30 s if the network cable is connected. And >only the first project of the solution is affected. Strange! > >This shows 2 things: > >* Everything is installed locally, because I can build with the network >cable unplugged. >* VStudio is doing something strange over the network at the end of the >first project build. > >Michael suggests that I run netmon to investigate what is going on through >the wire but I don't have time to investigate this right now. >I just turned my machine around so that I can easily unplug the net cable >before compiling. Problem is that the fan is a bit noisy! > >Bruno. > >"Scot Rose [MSFT]" <scotr@online.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message de >news:EkwQRhGeDHA.2420@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl... >> Could Name resolution possibley be the issue? Perhaps you could put an >entry for the machine where the files are located in the HOSTS file and see >if that resolves the problem. >> Its a long shot but it could be that simple... >> >> Scot Rose, MCSD >> Microsoft Visual Basic Developer Support >> Email : scotr@online.microsoft.com <Remove word online. from address> >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no >rights. >> >> >> >> >> -------------------- >> >From: "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> >> >References: <eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> ><SvHT8n6cDHA.2108@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> ><ubSSc1#cDHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> >> <6DwY50hdDHA.2116@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> >> >Subject: Re: Visual Studio compiles slowly, low CPU usage >> >Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:44:24 +0200 >> >Lines: 185 >> >X-Priority: 3 >> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >> >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 >> >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 >> >Message-ID: <eJzbQ3pdDHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl> >> >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp >> >NNTP-Posting-Host: f14m-9-109.d1.club-internet.fr 212.195.96.109 >> >Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl >> >Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl >microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp:183360 >> >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp >> > >> >Hi Scot, >> > >> >The ASPNET user exists (we really need it because we are developing a web >> >app). So the problem must be somewhere else. >> > >> >Thanks anyway for the info. >> > >> >Bruno. >> >"Scot Rose [MSFT]" <scotr@online.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message >de >> >news:6DwY50hdDHA.2116@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl... >> >> Yes, BUT the .Net environment somehow has to see the ASP net User >> >(Acording to that article) thats why I brought it up. Make sure that >account >> >exists and has proper >> >> permissions... >> >> >> >> Want to know more? Check out the MSDN Library at > http://msdn.microsoft.com >> >or the Microsoft Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com >> >> >> >> Scot Rose, MCSD >> >> Microsoft Visual Basic Developer Support >> >> Email : scotr@online.microsoft.com <Remove word online. from address> >> >> >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no >> >rights. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------- >> >> >From: "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> >> >> >References: <eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> >> ><SvHT8n6cDHA.2108@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> >> >> >Subject: Re: Visual Studio compiles slowly, low CPU usage >> >> >Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:36:14 +0200 >> >> >Lines: 116 >> >> >X-Priority: 3 >> >> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >> >> >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 >> >> >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 >> >> >Message-ID: <ubSSc1#cDHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> >> >> >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp >> >> >NNTP-Posting-Host: f13v-10-213.d1.club-internet.fr 212.195.181.213 >> >> >Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl >> >> >Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl >> >microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp:182726 >> >> >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp >> >> > >> >> >Hi Scot, >> >> > >> >> >Yes, we are running under a domain at work, and not at home. I looked >at >> >the >> >> >link but I don't think it explains our problem: >> >> > >> >> >* The problem is not with the .NET apps that we create but with Visual >> >> >Studio .NET itself. >> >> > >> >> >* Visual Studio starts normally (so the problem is not at load time). >The >> >> >problem shows up at the end of compilation: CPU usage is very low (2% >or >> >> >less) and stays like this for more than 1 minute before completing and >> >> >moving to the next project of our solution. >> >> > >> >> >* We are running Studio 2003, so the underlying framework is 1.1 >rather >> >than >> >> >1.0. >> >> > >> >> >One note: our solution mixes J# and C# projects. The first project >that
Hi Scott, I don't understand which Web Server you are talking about. Everything's local: source code, dev tools but also testing/debugging environment. We test on localhost (so each of us can test on his own machine). The only thing that's remote is our CVS source control but we got rid of the IDE integration and we run WinCvs on the side (and we access it by IP, not by name). So, do you mean that I should put "localhost" in my Hosts file? I'm a bit lost. Bruno. "Scot Rose [MSFT]" <scotr@online.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message de news:qItWHdVeDHA.2192@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Problem could be name resolution as I mentined before... Put the IP
Address of teh Web Server in the Hosts file and see what happens... Checking a Netmon trace is probably [quoted text, click to view] > definately the way to go to resolve this in the future. > > > Scot Rose, MCSD > Microsoft Visual Basic Developer Support > Email : scotr@online.microsoft.com <Remove word online. from address> > > This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no rights. > > Get Secure! > http://www.microsoft.com/security > http://www.microsoft.com/protect > > > -------------------- > >From: "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> > >References: <eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> <SvHT8n6cDHA.2108@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> <ubSSc1#cDHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> [quoted text, click to view] > <6DwY50hdDHA.2116@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl>
<eJzbQ3pdDHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl> <EkwQRhGeDHA.2420@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> [quoted text, click to view] > >Subject: Re: Visual Studio compiles slowly, low CPU usage > >Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:57:47 +0200 > >Lines: 289 > >X-Priority: 3 > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 > >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 > >Message-ID: <emEt34IeDHA.1824@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> > >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp > >NNTP-Posting-Host: f15v-1-14.d1.club-internet.fr 212.195.192.14 > >Path:
cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGXA05.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08 ..phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl [quoted text, click to view] > >Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp:184163 > >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp > > > >Hi Scot, > > > >The files (Studio and source) are on the local disk. > > > >Actually, I crossposted on microsoft.public.dotnet.vjsharp and Michael Green > >(MS) suggested that I unplug the network cable. > >I tried it and it fixed the problem. The results are the following: > > > >With network cable: > > First project: 110 s > > Whole solution: 240 s > > > >Without network cable: > > First project: 20s > > Whole solution 150 s > > > >So, the compiler wastes 1 min 30 s if the network cable is connected. And > >only the first project of the solution is affected. Strange! > > > >This shows 2 things: > > > >* Everything is installed locally, because I can build with the network > >cable unplugged. > >* VStudio is doing something strange over the network at the end of the > >first project build. > > > >Michael suggests that I run netmon to investigate what is going on through > >the wire but I don't have time to investigate this right now. > >I just turned my machine around so that I can easily unplug the net cable > >before compiling. Problem is that the fan is a bit noisy! > > > >Bruno. > > > >"Scot Rose [MSFT]" <scotr@online.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message de > >news:EkwQRhGeDHA.2420@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl... > >> Could Name resolution possibley be the issue? Perhaps you could put an > >entry for the machine where the files are located in the HOSTS file and see > >if that resolves the problem. > >> Its a long shot but it could be that simple... > >> > >> Scot Rose, MCSD > >> Microsoft Visual Basic Developer Support > >> Email : scotr@online.microsoft.com <Remove word online. from address> > >> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no > >rights. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -------------------- > >> >From: "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> > >> >References: <eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> > ><SvHT8n6cDHA.2108@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> > ><ubSSc1#cDHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> > >> <6DwY50hdDHA.2116@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> > >> >Subject: Re: Visual Studio compiles slowly, low CPU usage > >> >Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:44:24 +0200 > >> >Lines: 185 > >> >X-Priority: 3 > >> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >> >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 > >> >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 > >> >Message-ID: <eJzbQ3pdDHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl> > >> >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp > >> >NNTP-Posting-Host: f14m-9-109.d1.club-internet.fr 212.195.96.109 > >> >Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl > >> >Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl > >microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp:183360 > >> >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp > >> > > >> >Hi Scot, > >> > > >> >The ASPNET user exists (we really need it because we are developing a web > >> >app). So the problem must be somewhere else. > >> > > >> >Thanks anyway for the info. > >> > > >> >Bruno. > >> >"Scot Rose [MSFT]" <scotr@online.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message > >de > >> >news:6DwY50hdDHA.2116@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl... > >> >> Yes, BUT the .Net environment somehow has to see the ASP net User > >> >(Acording to that article) thats why I brought it up. Make sure that > >account > >> >exists and has proper > >> >> permissions... > >> >> > >> >> Want to know more? Check out the MSDN Library at > > http://msdn.microsoft.com > >> >or the Microsoft Knowledge Base at http://support.microsoft.com > >> >> > >> >> Scot Rose, MCSD > >> >> Microsoft Visual Basic Developer Support > >> >> Email : scotr@online.microsoft.com <Remove word online. from address> > >> >> > >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no > >> >rights. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -------------------- > >> >> >From: "Bruno Jouhier [MVP]" <bjouhier@club-internet.fr> > >> >> >References: <eBR9f4LcDHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> > >> ><SvHT8n6cDHA.2108@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl> > >> >> >Subject: Re: Visual Studio compiles slowly, low CPU usage > >> >> >Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:36:14 +0200 > >> >> >Lines: 116 > >> >> >X-Priority: 3 > >> >> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >> >> >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 > >> >> >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 > >> >> >Message-ID: <ubSSc1#cDHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> > >> >> >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp > >> >> >NNTP-Posting-Host: f13v-10-213.d1.club-internet.fr 212.195.181.213 > >> >> >Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl > >> >> >Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl
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