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B radley Jiang post hangs browser Eric
9/10/2003 6:40:41 AM
visual studio .net documentation:
Not sure why, but bradley jiang's posted response to
my "Annoying MSI Installer" post hangs my browser. I have
to force reboot. Don't know why.

btw -- tried the suggestions.
wwwroot$ was already shared. I also tried repair and full
install and I still get the msi install dialogs.
The only time the msi installer dialogs don't pop up is
when I'm running with the administrator account
suggesting that this might be a bug. Anyone else with
RE: B radley Jiang post hangs browser bradleyj NO[at]SPAM online.microsoft.com
9/11/2003 3:44:17 AM
Hi,

It seems that non-admin users fails to read or write some files or registry
related to MSDN due to insufficient permissions. Let's try regmon and
filemon:

1. Log on as a non-admin user
2. If you are using Windows XP, right click on the two .exe file and run it
as administrator account. If you are using Windows 2000, in the command
window use the runas
command to run the two tools in administrator account.
3. Set the filter to dexplore.exe so that only MSDN's activities are
recorded.
4. Start MSDN to reproduce the issue. Stop capturing.
5. In the resultant logs, search for "denied" as the keyword. This will
tell you on what files or regs the non-admin user needs more permission.

The regmon and filemon tools are available in http://www.sysinternals.com



Best regards,
Bradley Jiang

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|Not sure why, but bradley jiang's posted response to
|my "Annoying MSI Installer" post hangs my browser. I have
|to force reboot. Don't know why.
|
|btw -- tried the suggestions.
|wwwroot$ was already shared. I also tried repair and full
|install and I still get the msi install dialogs.
|The only time the msi installer dialogs don't pop up is
|when I'm running with the administrator account
|suggesting that this might be a bug. Anyone else with
|this problem?
|
RE: B radley Jiang post hangs browser Eric
9/12/2003 6:33:59 AM
That helped. Thanks!

There was no "denied" access in the registry but some
paths logged in FileMon were getting Access Denied with
my non admin account. Adding extra permissions to the
Microsoft Shared\Help and Application Data\Microsoft Help
were changed.

Now, the installing popups happen only once -- the first
time accessed. Not the best but less of a nuisance.

I tried noting, even revising permissions, for other
access denied locations but expect this is not an
entirely reliable indicator of the problem. Access denied
is often logged just before or after the same file is
opened successfully. This extends beyond my particular
problem.

Thanks. I do think this is a bug that should be
addressed, even If it's something I did in installation!


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RE: B radley Jiang post hangs browser bradleyj NO[at]SPAM online.microsoft.com
9/17/2003 7:51:01 AM
Hi,

Can you tell me what files in which it reports "access denied" in now? Does
it affect your normal operation of MSDN?



Best regards,
Bradley Jiang

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|That helped. Thanks!
|
|There was no "denied" access in the registry but some
|paths logged in FileMon were getting Access Denied with
|my non admin account. Adding extra permissions to the
|Microsoft Shared\Help and Application Data\Microsoft Help
|were changed.
|
|Now, the installing popups happen only once -- the first
|time accessed. Not the best but less of a nuisance.
|
|I tried noting, even revising permissions, for other
|access denied locations but expect this is not an
|entirely reliable indicator of the problem. Access denied
|is often logged just before or after the same file is
|opened successfully. This extends beyond my particular
|problem.
|
|Thanks. I do think this is a bug that should be
|addressed, even If it's something I did in installation!
|
|
|>-----Original Message-----
|>Hi,
|>
|>It seems that non-admin users fails to read or write
|some files or registry
|>related to MSDN due to insufficient permissions. Let's
|try regmon and
|>filemon:
|>
|>1. Log on as a non-admin user
|>2. If you are using Windows XP, right click on the
|two .exe file and run it
|>as administrator account. If you are using Windows 2000,
|in the command
|>window use the runas
|> command to run the two tools in administrator
|account.
|>3. Set the filter to dexplore.exe so that only MSDN's
|activities are
|>recorded.
|>4. Start MSDN to reproduce the issue. Stop capturing.
|>5. In the resultant logs, search for "denied" as the
|keyword. This will
|>tell you on what files or regs the non-admin user needs
|more permission.
|>
|>The regmon and filemon tools are available in
|http://www.sysinternals.com
|>
|>
|>
|>Best regards,
|>Bradley Jiang
|>
|>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
|confers no rights.
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|>|Not sure why, but bradley jiang's posted response to
|>|my "Annoying MSI Installer" post hangs my browser. I
|have
|>|to force reboot. Don't know why.
|>|
|>|btw -- tried the suggestions.
|>|wwwroot$ was already shared. I also tried repair and
|full
|>|install and I still get the msi install dialogs.
|>|The only time the msi installer dialogs don't pop up is
|>|when I'm running with the administrator account
|>|suggesting that this might be a bug. Anyone else with
|>|this problem?
|>|
|>
|>.
|>
|
B radley Jiang post hangs browser Eric
9/17/2003 8:12:45 PM

Bradley:
You replied to my post on September 17 from the thread
beginning Sept 10 "B radley Jiang post hangs browser"

This is the second post of yours that causes my browser
to become unresponsive!
There's no way for me to force it to quit! It's totally
unresponsive and refuses to quit. Eventually I loose my
taskbar and Explorer.
This last time I had to reset my computer.

I've never had this problem with other posts.
Not sure what was in your last post. I can say the
problem I first reported is still happening.

Eric Muzzy





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RE: B radley Jiang post hangs browser bradleyj NO[at]SPAM online.microsoft.com
9/18/2003 9:30:06 AM
Hi,

Really? I can see my post through IE with no problem. It looks like your IE
may have some problems.

What OS are you using? If you are using Windows 2000/XP, can you bring up
the task manager to kill IE process? If your computer totally hangs, the
issue should occur in kernel mode and this can be caused by other programs
running in the background or faulty driver. IE itself is not able to hang
your computer.



Best regards,
Bradley Jiang
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|
|Bradley:
|You replied to my post on September 17 from the thread
|beginning Sept 10 "B radley Jiang post hangs browser"
|
|This is the second post of yours that causes my browser
|to become unresponsive!
|There's no way for me to force it to quit! It's totally
|unresponsive and refuses to quit. Eventually I loose my
|taskbar and Explorer.
|This last time I had to reset my computer.
|
|I've never had this problem with other posts.
|Not sure what was in your last post. I can say the
|problem I first reported is still happening.
|
|Eric Muzzy
|
|
|
|
|
|>-----Original Message-----
|>Not sure why, but bradley jiang's posted response to
|>my "Annoying MSI Installer" post hangs my browser. I
|have
|>to force reboot. Don't know why.
|>
|>btw -- tried the suggestions.
|>wwwroot$ was already shared. I also tried repair and
|full
|>install and I still get the msi install dialogs.
|>The only time the msi installer dialogs don't pop up is
|>when I'm running with the administrator account
|>suggesting that this might be a bug. Anyone else with
|>this problem?
|>.
|>
|
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