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John Pressman
9/16/2003 4:36:19 PM
Any comments comparing Delphi 6/7 to VS 2003?

englere.geoNOSPAM NO[at]SPAM yahoo.com
9/16/2003 11:03:34 PM
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Are you using Delphi now?

I've been using Delphi since v1. I agree with the other poster - it's
very good overall, and it's probably still a good choice for Windows
GUI applications.

The Delphi IDE is still much better than Visual Studio for the
purposes of making Windows GUI applications, and the Object Pascal
language is very good.

However, I see a lot of benefit in using ASP.NET (C# or VB.NET) for
web applications. I know that Delphi 8 will support ASP.NET, but I
don't think I'd use Delphi for this purpose myself.

To be fair, Delphi has lost a lot of ground in recent years. I
wouldn't recommend coding any new projects in Delphi if you are
concerned about the whole lifecycle costs. It's getting difficult to
hire good Delphi programmers, and will be worse in the future. I see a
lot of Delphi people migrating to C#.

Marc Scheuner [MVP ADSI]
9/17/2003 8:20:36 AM
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Yup, my feelings exactly - I've moved from Delphi to C#, and I must
say - I miss Delphi and its so well thought out VCL class library.
Don't get me wrong - .NET is a great step forward to any VB or C++
programmer - but for a Delphite, while a lot feel very well known and
comfy, in some areas, it's more like a step sideways, or back.

The VS.NET IDE is a disaster, compared to Delphi - I sure hope Borland
will put out a great Delphi for .NET this fall ! That'd be the
greatest thing since sliced bread - all the benefits of the .NET
classes, hopefully enriched with some Delphi/VCL goodies, a great
language, and hopefully another stellar Borland IDE !

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If you still target Win32, I would - heck, with Delphi, you'll get the
best Win32 dev tool around, and with Delphi for .NET you'll likely
have the best .NET dev envionrment around, too! :-)

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It's always been hard to find good programmers - period. That's not a
question of the language. We trained dozens of VB'ers and C++ people
in Delphi, and the vast majority of them picked up Delphi in no time,
and couldn't believe they've ever put up with anything else in the
past!! :-)

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For now - but I'll be back doing Delphi for .NET as soon as it's out!

Marc
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