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Upgrading to VS.NET 2003 MB
4/13/2004 9:19:58 PM
visual studio .net general:
I have been using Visual Studio 6 Professional for some
time now. However, I mainly use the VB and InterDev
components. I haven't had much of a need for the other
components(VFP, etc.) I'd like to upgrade to Visual
Studio.NET 2003 but wasn't sure if I needed this full
blown version. Maybe VB.net would be sufficient? My main
interest at this point is to develop Windows applications
as well as ASP.net applications. Will VB.net be enough or
should I spring for the Pro version of VS.net? Does
ASP.net development offer a VB style development
environment or am I still stuck using Notepad to develop
ASP webs?

Also, I planned on installing on a new Win2003 Server. I
have a full version of VS6 and would like to only
purchase the VS.net upgrade instead of the full version.
Will I be required to install VS6 first then upgrade it?
Or will the VS.net install just ask for the CD to prove I
have it. I would like to avoid installing VS6 on the new
machine if I can avoid it.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

-mark
Re: Upgrading to VS.NET 2003 Michael Giagnocavo [MVP]
4/14/2004 1:12:18 AM
Well, considering the difference is $1000+ between Standard and Pro, and
another $1000+ for enterprise, go with whatever you can afford :). I
personally can't work without Enterprise (the data tools). Here's a
comparison chart:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/howtobuy/choosing.aspx

If you decide to get Pro or Enterprise, *don't buy Visual Studio directly*!.
Get an MSDN subscription. It's almost the same price, except you get MUCH,
MUCH, more (all their servers, OSes, other dev products, etc.), inc. some
free support issues (They cost like $200 each).

http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/

-mike
MVP

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Re: Upgrading to VS.NET 2003 MB
4/14/2004 9:07:08 AM
Thanks for the response. It looks like I can upgrade to
the pro version for around $500 but the Pro subscription
is over $1000. We are also IT people so we have all the
latest desktop and server OS's. Sounds like its an annual
cost too. Not sure I see the benefit at this point.

Regaring the actual upgrade process. Do you know if I
will be required to instal VS6 first then upgrade? Or
will the VS.Net install just prompt me for the CD to
prove I own it? I want to avoid install VS6 if I can?

Last question: I've seen where the .NET version of studio
is supposed to improve on the way you develop web apps.
My experience was to use Notepad to build ASP pages. Its
a very lame approach to programming and offers no real
way to debug, in my opinion. Does VS.NET resolve this
issue and offer a VB style debugger for debugging ASP or
ASP.net apps. Am I still limited to writing in Notepad?

thanks



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Re: Upgrading to VS.NET 2003 Michael Giagnocavo [MVP]
4/14/2004 1:33:34 PM
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Well, if you're getting an upgrade price, yes, it might be more expensive to
get a subscription. If you already have all the dev tools you need (SQL
Server, BizTalk, Virtual PC, etc.) then there might not be any point. It's
an annual subscription, but you aren't required to renew. The subscription
also gives you new software (such as VS2005) as soon as it's released.

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As far as the actual process, I couldn't find any information.

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ASP and ASP.NET apps are debuggable in VS.NET. They were also debuggable
with Visual Studio 6 (Visual Interdev). Please put notepad down :).

-mike
MVP

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Re: Upgrading to VS.NET 2003 Phil Barila
4/14/2004 11:34:36 PM
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VS6, VS.NET, and VS\.NET 2003 will all peacefully coexist on one system.
The only gotcha is that VS.NET and VS.NET 2003 share the same extensions,
but incompatible file formats, so VS.NET 2003 becomes the default.

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It does, though I don't know how good it is. I did web/dB yuck with VS 6,
and I don't ever want to do that again with any tool.

Phil
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