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differences in academic vs professional version

MHoffman
8/31/2003 10:59:46 PM

from what I understand, the only difference between the
academic version and profession is templates that students
would find helpful.

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Re: differences in academic vs professional version

Peter van der Goes
9/1/2003 7:05:22 AM

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The academic edition comes with the academic tools, while the Professional
Edition does not, as MHoffman told you.
In addition, the Academic Edition does not support remote debugging, while
the Professional Edition does.
You didn't say whether your Academic Edition is 2002 or 2003, but if it is
2002 and you want to move to 2003, you can get a $29 upgrade for the
Professional Edition. This upgrade is not available for the Academic
Edition.

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Peter - [MVP - Academic]

Re: differences in academic vs professional version

anthonymelillo
9/1/2003 2:11:07 PM

Actually I do not have any version yet. I am taking a course in Visual
Studio .Net in a few weeks and am still looking for the software at a price
that I can actually afford.

The school does not sell the software, they only gave me a web link where I
could buy it but the cost was about $130 and I can not afford that.

They did give me a trial, which I can't even use because it is on a DVD and
I do not have a DVD drive on my PC.

So I am starting a class for a programming language that I can't even use.

Any idea where I can get a deal on Visual Studio .Net ???

I even contacted the college to find out about the software, and they told
me they do not sell it, and it is optional. If I wanted a copy to work
with, I would have to buy it.

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Tony

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Re: differences in academic vs professional version

Peter van der Goes
9/2/2003 5:54:10 AM

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First, you might want to make your college aware of the Microsoft MSDN
Academic Alliance Program, which would allow them to supply faculty and
registered students with all sorts of interesting software free to the
recipient at an amazingly low annual membership fee.

http://www.microsoft.com/businesssolutions/educators/program%20information/msdnaa.mspx

If you can get one or two faculty members interested, they should be willing
to follow through.
While you are a registered student, you can get Visual Studio .NET, Academic
Edition for less than $100 US, at any web retailer who handles academic
software. Here a couple I've used:

Provantage (www.provantage.com)

http://www.provantage.com/buy-22079358-microsoft-development-tools-academic-edition-ae-visual-studio-net-v2003-pro-shopping.htm

Provantage has the lowest price I've seen.

Genesis Technologies (www.genesis-technologies.com)

http://www.genesis-technologies.com/productkeydetail.asp?SearchText=Visual+Studio&imageField3.x=9&imageField3.y=8&ProductID=215149

(watch out for link wrap)

All this assumes you are in the US. Be sure to get 2003, not 2002.

As far as an inexpensive DVD-ROM drive is concerned, I see them on
Pricewatch for as little as $27 US shipped. As I'm sure you know, the trial
version is only good for 60 days.

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Peter - [MVP - Academic]

Re: differences in academic vs professional version

anthonymelillo
9/2/2003 1:11:53 PM

I will try and let them now. The main problem is I am not a full time
student. But it's worth a shot.

What is the big difference between the 2002 version and the 2003 version ?

I may have located one today, will find out for sure later. But I don't
know what version it is.

If it is the 2002 version, can I use the 2003 upgrade that I saw on
Microsoft's web page ?

Thanks
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Tony

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Re: differences in academic vs professional version

Peter van der Goes
9/4/2003 6:26:33 AM

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For info on what's new in Visual Studio .NET 2003, read here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/productinfo/overview/whatsnew.aspx

We're using 2003 at my college, so I'll say that the following features
interested us:
1. The ability to easily choose between local, remote (server-based) or
web-based help during the install.
2. The new framework (1.1)
3. The new Winform C++ template.

That said, the $29 update you saw is *not* available for the Academic
Edition (and, the web page advertising it specifically says that in the
lower right-hand portion, IIRC).
So, if you find a bargain on a 2002 Academic Edition, you can download free
updates such as the .NET Framework v1.1, but you'd have to buy the complete
Visual Studio .NET 2003 Academic Edition to get to 2003.

Re: differences in academic vs professional version

Peter van der Goes
9/4/2003 6:37:19 AM

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Just to clarify, the statement about Visual Studio .NET edition eligibility
for the $29 upgrade to 2003 is bottom-center of:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/howtobuy/upgrade/vstudio03/

"
If you have… …you are eligible to receive the following upgrade for
$29 US
Visual Studio .NET 2002 Professional Visual Studio .NET 2003
Professional
Visual Studio .NET 2002 Enterprise Developer Visual Studio .NET 2003
Enterprise Developer
Visual Studio .NET 2002 Enterprise Architect Visual Studio .NET 2003
Enterprise Architect

Please note that only the above three products are eligible for this offer.
The following products are not eligible for this promotion:

a.. Visual Studio .NET 2002 Academic
b.. Visual Studio .NET 2002 60-day Evaluation
c.. Microsoft Visual Basic® .NET 2002 Standard (Note for customers in US
and Canada)
d.. Microsoft Visual C++® .NET 2002 Standard (Note for customers in US and
Canada)
e.. Microsoft Visual C#® .NET 2002 Standard (Note for customers in US and
Canada) "

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Peter - [MVP - Academic]

Re: differences in academic vs professional version

anthonymelillo
9/4/2003 1:26:58 PM

I really appreciate the help. There is no way I could afford the newest
version of .net. Unless I find it cheaper later. I was able to find a
reasonably priced version of 2002.

But I guess since 2003 is the latest and the greatest, so to speak, the
prices are obviously higher.

To bad there isn't a special deal for developers or students. The only
academic version I was able to find was about $130, and that is way outside
my range.

Thanks for the help
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Tony

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Re: differences in academic vs professional version

joao.coelho NO[at]SPAM online.microsoft.com
9/8/2003 5:45:05 PM

If you want to practice the skills you learned in your class, why don't you go for the Trial version of VS?
Learn more here:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/productinfo/trial/default.aspx

If you want to kmow more about the differences between Academic and Professional, go to this link:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/productinfo/default.aspx
and in the left sidebar, choose Product Information->Product Overview->(Sku you want)

Hope this helps,
- Joao

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