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However, I have some problems that I'd like to resolve before I install the new version. Problem 1: Somehow I have installed TWO parallel versions of the Library installed. When you look at Help Contents from the VS IDE I have three entries. July 2004 MSDN Library Visual Studio.Net MSDN Library. Every time I do a help search, I get two lines for every matching topic. They are named exactly the same, and presumably one is from the Jul 2004 version and one is from some long past version. Where should the MSDN Library be installed? How do I get rid of the "extra" one and get the current one in the right place? Problem 2: I thought my problem might have originated from an error that I might have made in installing the July 2004 version so I ran the install for the Oct 2004 version paying close attention to the prompts. The install does detect that I have a previous version installed. I probably installed using the "Quick" install last time. This time I chose custom installation so I could see all the options. I chose Minimum Install and when it asked where to install I chose Browse. The install showed me a folder C:\Program Files\MSDN with several sub-folders labeled with past versions of the Library (including the July 2004 version). I don't really want to carry past versions of the Library (at 600 Mb a pop) on my disk. Can I safely remove those old versions? Problem 3: I cancelled out before anything was installed. I want to install the October 2004 version so that it's the ONLY Library version that's present. How do I do that? Thanks.
Hi BBM, Thank you for your post. From your description, I understand that you would like to install MSDN October 2004 and get rid of the previous version of MSDN. If I have misunderstood, please let me know. To do this, you may remove the MSDN Library for Visual Studio .NET 2003 and MSDN Library - July 2004 from Control Panel. Then you may check whether the "MSDN" folder under the path "C:\Program Files". If so, delete the folder. After you have fully uninstalled the previous version of MSDN, installing MSDN October 2004 should be fix the problem. Should you have any concerns, please feel free to let me know. Regards, Wendy Dong Microsoft Online Partner Support Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
Wendy,
Thanks for your response. Because the MSDN Library is integrated with VS, I didn't realize it was a separate application with its own install. I did what you suggested (removed all the MSDN applications through the Control Panel and installed the Oct 2004 MSDN Library), but now when I go to Help / Contents, I only have an entry for Oct 2004 MSDN Library. I no longer have an entry for Visual Studio.Net, so it looks to me like I'm missing some documentation. I went to my most recent VS Studio install disk and went to re-install the product documentation. The installer looks just like the one for the MSDN Library. To reiterate my previous question, what is the "Contents" Help menu supposed to look like? Have I inadventently clobbered some VS documentation or is everything in the Oct 2004 MSDN Library? BBM [quoted text, click to view] "Wendy Dong" wrote:
> > Hi BBM, > > Thank you for your post. > > From your description, I understand that you would like to install MSDN > October 2004 and get rid of the previous version of MSDN. If I have > misunderstood, please let me know. > > To do this, you may remove the MSDN Library for Visual Studio .NET 2003 and > MSDN Library - July 2004 from Control Panel. Then you may check whether > the "MSDN" folder under the path "C:\Program Files". If so, delete the > folder. After you have fully uninstalled the previous version of MSDN, > installing MSDN October 2004 should be fix the problem. > > Should you have any concerns, please feel free to let me know. > > Regards, > > Wendy Dong > Microsoft Online Partner Support > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security > This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights. >
Wendy,
Thanks for the help system references. I'll take a look at them. My question is very simple. 1) Does the Oct 2004 MSDN Library contain the complete set of documentation that I need for VS .Net OR do I have to do something to restore the "Visual Studio .Net" entry on the "contents" help menu? This is not clear from your post. 2) If I have to re-install the "Visual Studio.Net" documentation, how do I do it? Just reinstall product documentation from the Visual Studio .Net DVD? If so how do I do this without reloading the Feb 2003 MSDN library? [quoted text, click to view] "Wendy Dong" wrote:
> Hi BBM, > > Thank you for your post. > > As I know, MSDN for Visual Studio .NET 2003 is a special version of MSDN. > We name it as MSDN Feb 2003 according to its release date. If you install > this version of MSDN Library, you will see two parts in the Contents: > "Visual Studio .NET" and "MSDN Library". However, other versions of MSDN > only include one part --- MSDN Library. The part "Visual Studio .NET" > included in MSDN Feb 2003 is uniquely written for Visual Studio .NET 2003. > > What you mentioned MSDN Oct 2004 is the latest version of Visual Studio > .NET 2003 Documentation. Please understand that this version should include > all the documentation updates of "MSDN" part in the previous MSDN Quarterly > Libraries. In other words, it include all the contents of "MSDN" part in > MSDN Feb 2003. > > From your previous email, I understand that you still have some concerns > about Combined Help Collection. Please refer to the following link for more > information. > > Specifying a Preferred Help Collection > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vsintro7/ht > ml/vxtskspecifyingpreferredhelpcollection.asp > > Help, Environment, Options Dialog Box > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vsintro7/ht > ml/vxurfhelpenvironmentoptionsdialogbox.asp > > Using the Combined Help Collection Manager > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vsintro7/ht > ml/vxurfthecombinedhelpcollectionmanager.asp > > Should you have any concerns or new findings regarding the issue, please > feel free to let me know. > > Regards, > > Wendy Dong > Microsoft Online Partner Support > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security > This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights. >
Hi BBM,
Thank you for your post. As I know, MSDN for Visual Studio .NET 2003 is a special version of MSDN. We name it as MSDN Feb 2003 according to its release date. If you install this version of MSDN Library, you will see two parts in the Contents: "Visual Studio .NET" and "MSDN Library". However, other versions of MSDN only include one part --- MSDN Library. The part "Visual Studio .NET" included in MSDN Feb 2003 is uniquely written for Visual Studio .NET 2003. What you mentioned MSDN Oct 2004 is the latest version of Visual Studio ..NET 2003 Documentation. Please understand that this version should include all the documentation updates of "MSDN" part in the previous MSDN Quarterly Libraries. In other words, it include all the contents of "MSDN" part in MSDN Feb 2003. From your previous email, I understand that you still have some concerns about Combined Help Collection. Please refer to the following link for more information. Specifying a Preferred Help Collection http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vsintro7/ht ml/vxtskspecifyingpreferredhelpcollection.asp Help, Environment, Options Dialog Box http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vsintro7/ht ml/vxurfhelpenvironmentoptionsdialogbox.asp Using the Combined Help Collection Manager http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vsintro7/ht ml/vxurfthecombinedhelpcollectionmanager.asp Should you have any concerns or new findings regarding the issue, please feel free to let me know. Regards, Wendy Dong Microsoft Online Partner Support Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
Hi,
The Oct 2004 MSDN is the latest version of MSDN. It contains all the contents from the previous versions (after Oct. 2001) and it fully integrates with VS.Net 2002 or VS.Net 2003. As a result, there is no need for us to install the VS.Net 2003 Documentation that ships with VS.Net Installation Package. On my workstation, I only have three versions of MSDN: 1. Oct 2001 for Visual Studio 6.0 products. This is the latest version of MSDN that integrates with VS 6 products. 2. July 2004 for VS.Net 2003 and VS.Net 2002. I don't have Oct 2004 MSDN yet. 3. MSDN Library for Visual Studio 2005 Beta. This is a beta version of MSDN for VS.Net 2005. I hope the information is useful to you. Regards, Felix Wang Microsoft Online Partner Support Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
Hi Felix,
I fooled around some with the MSDN libraries last night. My expectation is that VS.Net has some sort of "base" help functionality that is extended by the MSDN Library. MSDN appears to contain mainly technical articles that further explain certain features of .Net and associated products. That's the way it's set up when you install VS.Net 2003. If you go to the Help / Contents menu you get two items showing in the help window... Visual Studio.Net and MSDN. Under Visual Studio.Net you get very general topics (VB & C# Programming for example). These topics tell you the general features of languages and about the VS IDE with walk-thrus. Under MSDN you get technical articles on specific features or aspects of .Net. Now I would expect that when I get a new MSDN Library disk that it would either 1) Just replace the MSDN portion of the Help Contents with a new updated version, or 2) That it would replace both the Visual Studio .Net items AND replace the old MSDN entry with a new updated MSDN library. Neither of these happens. When I install the Oct2004 MSDN Library on top of the "base" installation of VS documentation (the one that ships with the product), I have only one entry in Contents ... MSDN Oct 2004. No more general help topics. For now I've gone back to the "base" product documentation because I think the general topics are more useful than those shipped with the new MSDN library. Isn't there a way to have both? Thanks. BBM [quoted text, click to view] "Felix Wang" wrote:
> Hi, > > The Oct 2004 MSDN is the latest version of MSDN. It contains all the > contents from the previous versions (after Oct. 2001) and it fully > integrates with VS.Net 2002 or VS.Net 2003. > > As a result, there is no need for us to install the VS.Net 2003 > Documentation that ships with VS.Net Installation Package. On my > workstation, I only have three versions of MSDN: > > 1. Oct 2001 for Visual Studio 6.0 products. This is the latest version of > MSDN that integrates with VS 6 products. > 2. July 2004 for VS.Net 2003 and VS.Net 2002. I don't have Oct 2004 MSDN > yet. > 3. MSDN Library for Visual Studio 2005 Beta. This is a beta version of MSDN > for VS.Net 2005. > > I hope the information is useful to you. > > Regards, > > Felix Wang > Microsoft Online Partner Support > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security > This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights. >
Hi BBM,
Thanks for your update. As I mentioned, the latest MSDN covers all the contents that ships with VS.Net 2003's Documentation CD. There is no need for us to keep the orginal VS.Net 2003's Documentation. If we install both of them, the contents will be duplicate. We also have "VB & C# Programming" topics in MSDN Oct 2004: .Net Development => Visual Studio .NET => Product Documentation => Visual Basic and Visual C# You may check whether we have any topics available in VS.Net 2003 Documentation, but unavailable in MSDN Oct 2004 (as long as you choose "Full Install"). I don't think we have. When we install MSDN Oct 2004, the installation program will prompt us with a check box whether we would like to integrate it with VS.Net 2003 (as well as VS.Net 2002 if it exists). If we check the check box, we will be able to open MSDN library directly when we press F1 in VS.Net. Regards, Felix Wang Microsoft Online Partner Support Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
Thanks Felix.
I understand how it works now, and was able to find the product documention in the updated library. I still don't see why they buried the product documentation three levels deep in the topic tree. Thanks again for your help. [quoted text, click to view] "Felix Wang" wrote:
> Hi BBM, > > Thanks for your update. As I mentioned, the latest MSDN covers all the > contents that ships with VS.Net 2003's Documentation CD. There is no need > for us to keep the orginal VS.Net 2003's Documentation. If we install both > of them, the contents will be duplicate. We also have "VB & C# > Programming" topics in MSDN Oct 2004: > > .Net Development => Visual Studio .NET => Product Documentation => Visual > Basic and Visual C# > > You may check whether we have any topics available in VS.Net 2003 > Documentation, but unavailable in MSDN Oct 2004 (as long as you choose > "Full Install"). I don't think we have. > > When we install MSDN Oct 2004, the installation program will prompt us with > a check box whether we would like to integrate it with VS.Net 2003 (as well > as VS.Net 2002 if it exists). If we check the check box, we will be able to > open MSDN library directly when we press F1 in VS.Net. > > Regards, > > Felix Wang > Microsoft Online Partner Support > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security > This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights. >
Hi BBM,
Thanks for your update. I understand you concerns here. Sometimes I also find it troublesome to locate a particular topic, as I need to double-click and expand the tree nodes for a number of times. The reason for this design is that there are many different catagories in the library, as the technologies are growing and expanding. The MSDN is no longer the "private" product document for Visual Studio. Instead, it contains all development related topics, including Microsoft Platform SDKs, DDK and so on. Please feel free to post here if there is anything else we can do for you. Enjoy reading MSDN! Regards, Felix Wang Microsoft Online Partner Support Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.
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