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counted on. Beyond that, could you give a specific example of what you are trying to do? -- Curt Christianson Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software www.Darkfalz.com [quoted text, click to view] <aa> wrote in message news:u2WI3wuzDHA.2676@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > In global.asa I have some code outside all the Subs. > > I have some confirmation that it is being executed OnStart. > Yet I can's see if it is executed OnEnd. > > The literature I have says that OnEnd the Sub Application_OnEnd is executed, > but is does not say that anything else is executed > > Actually I even can't understand if global.asa is permited to have any code > outside the Subs > > Could someone comment on this? > >
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> In global.asa I have some code outside all the Subs. Could you be more specific? What "code" is "outside all the subs"? Could you show your global.asa? How do you expect it to be executed? How can you tell it's being executed OnStart (on start of WHAT) and not OnEnd (again, on end of WHAT)?
Exactly... most people try to use it for when a person "leaves" the site. As
long as you can wait for the actual session expiration it should work.... They expect the "X" from the browser to fire it, which we all know doesnt' work -- Curt Christianson Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software www.Darkfalz.com [quoted text, click to view] <aa> wrote in message news:OJgH3$vzDHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > In which sense is it unreliable? > I have been using is on nt4/iis4 for 2 years now to save page hit counters - > it seemed to work fine. > Saving application variables is one of the most common usage of global.asa > and it relies heavily on OnEnd. > The only unreliability I noticed that it is difficult to tell when exactly > this even is expected to fire. But it looks like it had been firing at the > end of the day. > I keep a log on my provider of server down times recording date and time > when thevapplication end and application start - and it has beed quite > consistent. > > > "Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message > news:uQntr7uzDHA.716@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > > first off, the Application_OnEnd is not reliable....and should not be > > counted on. > > Beyond that, could you give a specific example of what you are trying to > do? > > > > -- > > Curt Christianson > > Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software > > www.Darkfalz.com > > > > > > <aa> wrote in message news:u2WI3wuzDHA.2676@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > > In global.asa I have some code outside all the Subs. > > > > > > I have some confirmation that it is being executed OnStart. > > > Yet I can's see if it is executed OnEnd. > > > > > > The literature I have says that OnEnd the Sub Application_OnEnd is > > executed, > > > but is does not say that anything else is executed > > > > > > Actually I even can't understand if global.asa is permited to have any > > code > > > outside the Subs > > > > > > Could someone comment on this? > > > > > > > > > > > >
My bad... I mis-read it. It's been that type of day....
-- Curt Christianson Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software www.Darkfalz.com [quoted text, click to view] <aa> wrote in message news:Ou9BrUwzDHA.1760@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > Not sure. > You seem to mean Session OnEnd, whereas I mean Application OnEnd > > "Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message > news:uZZh4SwzDHA.536@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > Exactly... most people try to use it for when a person "leaves" the site. > As > > long as you can wait for the actual session expiration it should work.... > > They expect the "X" from the browser to fire it, which we all know doesnt' > > work > > > > -- > > Curt Christianson > > Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software > > www.Darkfalz.com > > > > > > <aa> wrote in message news:OJgH3$vzDHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > > > In which sense is it unreliable? > > > I have been using is on nt4/iis4 for 2 years now to save page hit > > counters - > > > it seemed to work fine. > > > Saving application variables is one of the most common usage of > global.asa > > > and it relies heavily on OnEnd. > > > The only unreliability I noticed that it is difficult to tell when > exactly > > > this even is expected to fire. But it looks like it had been firing at > the > > > end of the day. > > > I keep a log on my provider of server down times recording date and time > > > when thevapplication end and application start - and it has beed quite > > > consistent. > > > > > > > > > "Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message > > > news:uQntr7uzDHA.716@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > > > > first off, the Application_OnEnd is not reliable....and should not be > > > > counted on. > > > > Beyond that, could you give a specific example of what you are trying > to > > > do? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Curt Christianson > > > > Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software > > > > www.Darkfalz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > <aa> wrote in message news:u2WI3wuzDHA.2676@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > > > > In global.asa I have some code outside all the Subs. > > > > > > > > > > I have some confirmation that it is being executed OnStart. > > > > > Yet I can's see if it is executed OnEnd. > > > > > > > > > > The literature I have says that OnEnd the Sub Application_OnEnd is > > > > executed, > > > > > but is does not say that anything else is executed > > > > > > > > > > Actually I even can't understand if global.asa is permited to have > any > > > > code > > > > > outside the Subs > > > > > > > > > > Could someone comment on this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
In global.asa I have some code outside all the Subs.
I have some confirmation that it is being executed OnStart. Yet I can's see if it is executed OnEnd. The literature I have says that OnEnd the Sub Application_OnEnd is executed, but is does not say that anything else is executed Actually I even can't understand if global.asa is permited to have any code outside the Subs Could someone comment on this?
Thank you for asking questions
In global.asa outside all the Subs, I define and initiate a variable to hold a path to a file to which I write something on Application_OnEnd and read from on Application_OnStart. I use MapPath and do it outside Subs because MapPath for some reason does not work well inside Application On_End. My question is: what is the lifetime of that variable? Does it get lost as soon the global.asa is executed? Or it is stored somewhere? From my 2 year experience with nt4/iis it seems that it is either stored like an Application scope variable or (more likely) this out-of-subs code gets executed OnEnd as well. This is proven that file in question has been consistently found and records were read from it OnStart and added to it OnEnd. The reason I am asking this question is that I moved to w2k server and there the impression is that the OnEnd event is not fired at all. The log is registering the times the application starts, but no traces of application stops [quoted text, click to view] <aa> wrote in message news:u2WI3wuzDHA.2676@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > In global.asa I have some code outside all the Subs. > > I have some confirmation that it is being executed OnStart. > Yet I can's see if it is executed OnEnd. > > The literature I have says that OnEnd the Sub Application_OnEnd is executed, > but is does not say that anything else is executed > > Actually I even can't understand if global.asa is permited to have any code > outside the Subs > > Could someone comment on this? > >
In which sense is it unreliable?
I have been using is on nt4/iis4 for 2 years now to save page hit counters - it seemed to work fine. Saving application variables is one of the most common usage of global.asa and it relies heavily on OnEnd. The only unreliability I noticed that it is difficult to tell when exactly this even is expected to fire. But it looks like it had been firing at the end of the day. I keep a log on my provider of server down times recording date and time when thevapplication end and application start - and it has beed quite consistent. [quoted text, click to view] "Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message news:uQntr7uzDHA.716@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > first off, the Application_OnEnd is not reliable....and should not be > counted on. > Beyond that, could you give a specific example of what you are trying to do? > > -- > Curt Christianson > Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software > www.Darkfalz.com > > > <aa> wrote in message news:u2WI3wuzDHA.2676@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > In global.asa I have some code outside all the Subs. > > > > I have some confirmation that it is being executed OnStart. > > Yet I can's see if it is executed OnEnd. > > > > The literature I have says that OnEnd the Sub Application_OnEnd is > executed, > > but is does not say that anything else is executed > > > > Actually I even can't understand if global.asa is permited to have any > code > > outside the Subs > > > > Could someone comment on this? > > > > > >
Not sure.
You seem to mean Session OnEnd, whereas I mean Application OnEnd [quoted text, click to view] "Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message news:uZZh4SwzDHA.536@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > Exactly... most people try to use it for when a person "leaves" the site. As > long as you can wait for the actual session expiration it should work.... > They expect the "X" from the browser to fire it, which we all know doesnt' > work > > -- > Curt Christianson > Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software > www.Darkfalz.com > > > <aa> wrote in message news:OJgH3$vzDHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > > In which sense is it unreliable? > > I have been using is on nt4/iis4 for 2 years now to save page hit > counters - > > it seemed to work fine. > > Saving application variables is one of the most common usage of global.asa > > and it relies heavily on OnEnd. > > The only unreliability I noticed that it is difficult to tell when exactly > > this even is expected to fire. But it looks like it had been firing at the > > end of the day. > > I keep a log on my provider of server down times recording date and time > > when thevapplication end and application start - and it has beed quite > > consistent. > > > > > > "Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message > > news:uQntr7uzDHA.716@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > > > first off, the Application_OnEnd is not reliable....and should not be > > > counted on. > > > Beyond that, could you give a specific example of what you are trying to > > do? > > > > > > -- > > > Curt Christianson > > > Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software > > > www.Darkfalz.com > > > > > > > > > <aa> wrote in message news:u2WI3wuzDHA.2676@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > > > In global.asa I have some code outside all the Subs. > > > > > > > > I have some confirmation that it is being executed OnStart. > > > > Yet I can's see if it is executed OnEnd. > > > > > > > > The literature I have says that OnEnd the Sub Application_OnEnd is > > > executed, > > > > but is does not say that anything else is executed > > > > > > > > Actually I even can't understand if global.asa is permited to have any > > > code > > > > outside the Subs > > > > > > > > Could someone comment on this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Never mind, Curt. What about my original query?
[quoted text, click to view] "Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message news:eSKVzfwzDHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > My bad... I mis-read it. It's been that type of day.... > > -- > Curt Christianson > Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software > www.Darkfalz.com > > > <aa> wrote in message news:Ou9BrUwzDHA.1760@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > > Not sure. > > You seem to mean Session OnEnd, whereas I mean Application OnEnd > > > > "Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message > > news:uZZh4SwzDHA.536@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > > Exactly... most people try to use it for when a person "leaves" the > site. > > As > > > long as you can wait for the actual session expiration it should > work.... > > > They expect the "X" from the browser to fire it, which we all know > doesnt' > > > work > > > > > > -- > > > Curt Christianson > > > Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software > > > www.Darkfalz.com > > > > > > > > > <aa> wrote in message news:OJgH3$vzDHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > > > > In which sense is it unreliable? > > > > I have been using is on nt4/iis4 for 2 years now to save page hit > > > counters - > > > > it seemed to work fine. > > > > Saving application variables is one of the most common usage of > > global.asa > > > > and it relies heavily on OnEnd. > > > > The only unreliability I noticed that it is difficult to tell when > > exactly > > > > this even is expected to fire. But it looks like it had been firing at > > the > > > > end of the day. > > > > I keep a log on my provider of server down times recording date and > time > > > > when thevapplication end and application start - and it has beed quite > > > > consistent. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message > > > > news:uQntr7uzDHA.716@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > > > > > first off, the Application_OnEnd is not reliable....and should not > be > > > > > counted on. > > > > > Beyond that, could you give a specific example of what you are > trying > > to > > > > do? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Curt Christianson > > > > > Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software > > > > > www.Darkfalz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <aa> wrote in message news:u2WI3wuzDHA.2676@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > > > > > In global.asa I have some code outside all the Subs. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have some confirmation that it is being executed OnStart. > > > > > > Yet I can's see if it is executed OnEnd. > > > > > > > > > > > > The literature I have says that OnEnd the Sub Application_OnEnd is > > > > > executed, > > > > > > but is does not say that anything else is executed > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually I even can't understand if global.asa is permited to have > > any > > > > > code > > > > > > outside the Subs > > > > > > > > > > > > Could someone comment on this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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