flash (macromedia): Phil,

You are presumptuous in thinking that anyone who decompiles a .swf file
intends to rip it off. Secondly, I believe there are ways to design and
publish a .swf file in order to protect it from such illegal ripoffs.

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The Lone Ranger

Urami,

Shane Elliott in Flash MX 2004 Killer Tips stated that SoThink's decompiler
was the "best one". I would be eager to get your suggestion as to better
decompilers.

As to .swf protection, I thought there were applications such as Genable
Actionscript Obfuscator that will put protection into your .swf's protecting
them against reverse engineering.

--
The Lone Ranger

Sothink Flash Decompiler is a program that enables anybody to grab any SWF
file off the net and convert it back into a Flash FLA file. Any Flash movie can
now be ripped off and any Flash Movie with sensitive information like -
passwords is now completely exposed! As a designer I find this absolutely
frightening.

Does anybody know if Macromedia is intending to do anything about this??

You can find info on the product here:
http://www.sothink.com/flashdecompiler/index.htm

Phil.

old news, beside sothink there is at least 20 more other products and way more
capable. And no , you can't protect file because SWF is an open format and anyone can make
any tools doing anything with the SWF .

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Regards


urami_*

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http://flashfugitive.com/
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Burak's tools are top notch quality. It is in fact very talented group of people.
I have been testing all their products for pretty long time. What i like about Burak
is fact that they the first to support new flash format, while SoThink was doing flash 5
only long after MX was on the market.
Burak comes with it as first years ago going back to flash 3 or so. Rest are copy cats,
you just can't over come the experience that comes with years of working on something.

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There is no any that works. You need to remember that there is only "that much" you can
mess the source in swf. The Player will still need to understand it to some degree making
a limit to how far you can jam the file.
I saw one obfu , good one , but the files did not run on flash player or stuck half way.
Burak do decompile all the files , they might not allow some of the obfu but this is to
prevent people who use warez version of their programs for known purpose.
Legit user can forward the file and they will do it for you as long as you have a invoice
of purchasing that tool with them :)
I believe it's a good way , anyhow , they still to bit lots of obfus out there w/o problem.


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Regards


urami_*

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http://flashfugitive.com/
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No, as long as you import it rather than linking to external file. There are
currently NO apps that will decompile .dcr (Director's Shockwave format)
files.

As urami states, this has always been the case - the answer is to never
include sensitive data such as usernames and passwords in your .swf.

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If you wish to protect your SWF files from fraud and you're
distributing them on CD (i.e. not embed them into online HTML pages!),
there is a simple and quite cheap solution which can hide your SWF
files forever. None of users will see them anymore even for a
nanosecond :) All they will see will be a standalone and single EXE
file.
And this solution uses pure SWF files (not like Macromedia Director)
and you still can load one SWF into another, load XML into SWF or load
everything Flash lets you load inside the movie. None of such
"external" files will be seen.
Such EXE file can be then protected as every software. You can apply
license keys system to it if you wish.

Please note that this solution will work only by converting your Flash
stuff into one single EXE -- therefore it is oriented to standalone
execution (not a webpages!) Though you may call external SWFs from
your movie (and even SWFs from different URLs, what is prohibited by
default).

How to do it? I can explain -- but I'm afraid it will be offtopic
here, therefore please write me directly to support( at ) flashdig
(dot) com

You can extract SWF files from EXE's

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Not from _every_ EXE :)
More exactly only from Macromedia Projector :)
There are more EXE than Macromedia projector :)

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no only.

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Yes .. I know that. it all depends on the exe and if/how it might encrypt
the SWF file.