flash (macromedia): Hello, What is the best way to protect a flash application from being
hacked/stolen? I have an application in flash and I would like to distribute it
on a cd. I know that anything can be hacked/stolen, but lets just keep the
honest, honest. I'm sure that there is a lot of different methods. Any
information would be helpful. Thanks

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well , take cd, piece of sand paper, rub sandpaper vigorously on data side of cd
and you won't be able to copy or rip it anymore .....

No kidding , true is , if it can be burn , it can be clone and reburn .
There is no way to actually protect anything especially media like CD where
piracy is way ahead of security available for this.

I came across link posted while ago by Flashjester.com tech Crew member
but i have not try it yet so can't say much aboyt it:

Guard - Professional software protection system from http://www.sofpro.com.
Remember it works with Juggled file and not ordinary projector files.

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Regards


urami_*

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By The way:

This is true! Finding a way to somewhat protect my flash application is taking
a life of its own. There has to be some method to quazi-protect a flash
application. Sure, the determined will always prevail. I'm talking about
keeping the honest people out there, er, honest. I once purchased some
software that used flash. It might have been imbedded in a vb app or some other
method of deployment. Not sure on that. But you could not just burn the disk.
The original disk had to be in the tray and it used a serial key too. Does
flashjester have a method? Does anyone know how to get a flash application to
work in vb.net?

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 08:25:28 +0800, urami_
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urami_, your joking is just partially reflects the real situation.
There are few CD protectors which make it impossible to clone
protected CD on _every_ CD recorder. This is because they're burned on
a specially modified device which can do things, normal recorder can't
do. Though nobody in clear mind will try to overcome this issue --
software hacking/cracking is the right way to go here.

Therefore what we could discuss here is "How to protect my Flash
software from hacking". And here we are coming to the software
protection area, where there are several good solutions. Of course you
may ask, how to use these tools for protecting Flash content? I could
answer it, but I think it's offtopic here, because I can't give you an
URL for ready-to-use solution still.

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AFAIK it has only trial versions creation. No registration keys or
something like that. Trial protection, used in Jugglor isn't too
strong... :(

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=8( )
Online activation system... for CD... urami_, is it yet another joke?

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 18:56:26 +0000 (UTC), "Brajeshwar"
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First of all it "protects" only ActionScript. All graphics, texts,
etc. are still editable.
The second thing is that it implements the method I though about yet
around a year ago :) But I've come to the conclusion that AS
protection like this not worth of time spent for coding. Every coder
more or less familiar with SWF format can create decriptor for such
"cryptor". Flash must have at least ability to work with memory in
order to let us to create more or less real protection system. Now it
is just an interpreter.

Once more, there is no real opportunity to protect online Flash
content, because SWF format not allows to modify anything to prevent
its decompilation. More exactly, there is the only one -- to create
your own OCX (based on Flash.OCX) which could support encrypted SWF
content. But first of all ask MM what they think about such solution
:)

As for offline (CD-based) content, it definitely can be protected as
using several trialware creators, as using registration keys system or
hardware keys.
This is because SWF content can be embedded into EXE file and there
are methods to run Flash content without saving it to the HDD. Here
we're coming to the topic of usual software protection (regardless to
its nature -- Flash or not Flash).

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If that's the case than why DVD or Music industry do not use it ?
Piracy is a huge problem for them and if that's a solution I'm sure they have more
budget than ordinary user for special devices to implement it.
I'm taking margin of tolerance on this one , I would see it becoming standard by now
in the above medias if it was really the way you say it.
After all they do suffer great lost due to piracy of these products.


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Why not ? Don't see it funny at all.
I was doing CD for Volvo , it's a electronic service booklet and it require
online activation and can be only process if you provide your car Chassis and Body number
which comes with the purchase documents. It's a special benefits program for Volvo
customers.
Been doing it at least for 150 to 20 clients so far. Not with software above but
online activation is pretty common nova days.



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urami_*

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15 to 20 , not 150 of course .....
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Regards


urami_*

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http://flashfugitive.com/
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On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:06:24 +0800, urami_
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So, boys and girls, let's start from the very basic statements. The
first of such is the next "Nobody never can create protection which
another person couldn't destroy for some definite time period/money
sum". This is the basic statement, and all we could discuss is what is
possible benefits from fraud and whether product worth of its
hacking/cracking. The higher is the product's price/popularity the
stronge protection must be used.

As for DVD protection -- their sale scales/budgets are so astronomic
that of course just online activation system or sofisticated hardware
keys could help here. Any other protection will be destroyed in a days
:)))

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In other words, user must be connected to INternet each time he/she
launches CD presentation. It is not so suitable for notebooks and
other cases where CD is used offline.

Hello,

A protection system called Cops Crypto is well suited for
protection/encryption
of Flash applications, and when combined with CD-Cops it is perfect
for distribution on CD-ROM.

More information on Cops Crypto here:
http://www.linkdata.com/crypto.htm
and information on CD-Cops here: http://www.linkdata.com/cdcops.htm

Kind regards,
Terry

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