flash (macromedia):
Supposedly a lot of people want to switch to Firefox and some MMedia evengelists like urami even have buttons on their sites encouraging people to use Firefox instead of IE. The problem is that whenever you install Firefox, you have to install the flash plug-in all over again. It is not included in the base installation like with IE, so stats like 96% of surfers have Flash are meaninglkess. Even morer serious problem is Flash plugin performance under Firefox. It is attrocious. On middle of the road machines everything seems like running in slow motion, especially games. IT IS USELESS. Until this is fixed Flash community should stay the hell away from Firefox and not encourage anybody to use it. ( whether this dismal performance is the fault of the MMedia or just the plug-in architecture as opposed to activeX I don't know, but IT MUST BE FIXED ). And finally Firefox is not inherently any more secure than IE anyway, it's just that virus writers aren't going to bother with such a small percentage of users. If Firefox ever does gain a significant share, they will target it and we will have just as incesure browser which on top of that kills all Flash has to offer. Firefox in its current state = garbage.
Jorge; What is your source for this information? Perhaps I've been lucky, but I've installed firefox on several systems (varying specifications) and I have experienced none of these issues thus far... -Tom Unger
How many hundreds or thousands of machines have you tried it on? Surely no one would be so silly as to make such comments based on just a handful of machines. Personally, I have five machines here at home, all running Firefox with no issues what-so-ever. The machines in use range from a P1 266mHz to a P4 2.2gHz and they all run fine. Pentium, Celeron no matter. Guess I have the only five setups that work. And yes, since I stopped using the giant target that says "SHOOT AT ME" called Internet Explorer, I have much more time for stuff I WANT to do, rather than spending precious time DAILY trying to solve what-ever crap the lastest hacker devised today. -- -- Regards, --Vern =========================== onClipEvent(doSomethingStupid){ setProperty("Face", color, #FF0000); _root.audio = "uh oh!"; }
[quoted text, click to view] Jorge wrote: > Supposedly a lot of people want to switch to Firefox and some MMedia > evengelists like urami even have buttons on their sites encouraging people > to use Firefox instead of IE. > > The problem is that whenever you install Firefox, you have to install the > flash plug-in all over again. > It is not included in the base installation like with IE, so stats like 96% > of surfers have Flash are meaninglkess. > > Even morer serious problem is Flash plugin performance under Firefox. It is > attrocious. On middle of the road machines everything seems like running in > slow motion, especially games. IT IS USELESS. > > Until this is fixed Flash community should stay the hell away from Firefox > and not encourage anybody to use it. ( whether this dismal performance is > the fault of the MMedia or just the plug-in architecture as opposed to > activeX I don't know, but IT MUST BE FIXED ). > > And finally Firefox is not inherently any more secure than IE anyway, it's > just that virus writers aren't going to bother with such a small percentage > of users. If Firefox ever does gain a significant share, they will target it > and we will have just as incesure browser which on top of that kills all > Flash has to offer. > > Firefox in its current state = garbage. > >
You are partially right. Firefox is so far superior to IE that I would use it even if I couldn't use flash. Even if the security was worse than IE, I would sill use it instead of IE. However, having said that, it is more secure, and I never had to do anything special to get Flash to work.
I haven't had any problems either, I have been doing a lot of streaming work with video and Firefox plays it all splendidly ! Dave. [quoted text, click to view] "posted.by(Vern);" <vpenrod@pc-NOSPAMgrafix.com> wrote in message news:craloh$6oi$1@forums.macromedia.com... > How many hundreds or thousands of machines have you tried it on? Surely no > one would be so silly as to make such comments based on just a handful of > machines. Personally, I have five machines here at home, all running > Firefox with no issues what-so-ever. The machines in use range from a P1 > 266mHz to a P4 2.2gHz and they all run fine. Pentium, Celeron no matter. > Guess I have the only five setups that work. And yes, since I stopped using > the giant target that says "SHOOT AT ME" called Internet Explorer, I have > much more time for stuff I WANT to do, rather than spending precious time > DAILY trying to solve what-ever crap the lastest hacker devised today. > > -- > -- > Regards, > --Vern > =========================== > onClipEvent(doSomethingStupid){ > setProperty("Face", color, #FF0000); > _root.audio = "uh oh!"; > } > >
My source is seeing it on several macines between 866mhz and 2.0ghz. Check out any web site which uses more animation and higher frame rates ( like 2advanced, flashlevel, which use 60 fps in flash ) and then check out games. First look at it in IE running the latest player , and then in Firefox running the latest player Try some games from miniclip.com for example. They all run in slow motion when played in Firefox, much slower than in IE. It's vey similar to slowness of the mac player compared to the pc side Also whenever you install Firefox, you have to install the flash plug-in separately. With nIE, it's just there, maybe not the latest version , but at least v. 6 [quoted text, click to view] "Tom Unger" <tjunger@entakeoutter.net> wrote in message news:craf1o$2li$1@forums.macromedia.com... > Jorge; > What is your source for this information? Perhaps I've been lucky, but > I've installed firefox on several systems (varying specifications) and I > have experienced none of these issues thus far... > -Tom Unger > >
Try this simple game engine I found on flashkit http://www.mondomaniatrics.com/blog/masterlao/engines/index.htm Click on hero> spawn hero then use up arrow key to jump and left right to run In firefox it's 3 times slower ( any machine around 1ghz ). This si absolutely unacceptable. 2advanced cut scenes/animations also take 3 times longer to play out in firefox. [quoted text, click to view] "posted.by(Vern);" <vpenrod@pc-NOSPAMgrafix.com> wrote in message news:craloh$6oi$1@forums.macromedia.com... > How many hundreds or thousands of machines have you tried it on? Surely no > one would be so silly as to make such comments based on just a handful of > machines. Personally, I have five machines here at home, all running > Firefox with no issues what-so-ever. The machines in use range from a P1 > 266mHz to a P4 2.2gHz and they all run fine. Pentium, Celeron no matter. > Guess I have the only five setups that work. And yes, since I stopped using > the giant target that says "SHOOT AT ME" called Internet Explorer, I have > much more time for stuff I WANT to do, rather than spending precious time > DAILY trying to solve what-ever crap the lastest hacker devised today. > > -- > -- > Regards, > --Vern > =========================== > onClipEvent(doSomethingStupid){ > setProperty("Face", color, #FF0000); > _root.audio = "uh oh!"; > } > >
[quoted text, click to view] Tom Unger wrote: > Jorge; > What is your source for this information? Perhaps I've been lucky, but > I've installed firefox on several systems (varying specifications) and I > have experienced none of these issues thus far... > -Tom Unger
Same here in fact I'm very happy with firefox , been mass installing it all over office and clients. -- Happy New Year and all the best to all of you guys !!! <urami> http://www.Flashfugitive.com </urami> <web junk free> http://www.firefox.com
[quoted text, click to view] Jorge wrote: > Try this simple game engine I found on flashkit > > http://www.mondomaniatrics.com/blog/masterlao/engines/index.htm > > Click on hero> spawn hero then use up arrow key to jump and left right to > run > > In firefox it's 3 times slower ( any machine around 1ghz ). This si > absolutely unacceptable. > > 2advanced cut scenes/animations also take 3 times longer to play out in > firefox. Weird, look ame in here. No kidding it even seem more smooth in firefox.
I think I have a similar problem, but the other way around; a flash game I'm working on plays at a consistent speed in IE, but all of my friends who use firefox tell me it runs way too FAST. I tried it under firefox on my own klunker, and for me it runs a little slower than it does in IE. Could anyone give me some pointers on what more I can do to standardize the speed? Before anyone suggests it, I should mention that I've made sure they have pipelining turned off. The game can be found here: http://www.studiohunty.com/dungeon
I went to the link to test it out because I've been using Firefox for a long time now, and I definitely prefer it over IE. The flash game/video at that link played just fine for me. It gave me no problems whatsoever, and I've played several other flash games on firefox as well with no problems.
[quoted text, click to view] "luvcraft" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message news:crf6sp$7lg$1@forums.macromedia.com... >I think I have a similar problem, but the other way around; a flash game >I'm > working on plays at a consistent speed in IE, but all of my friends who > use > firefox tell me it runs way too FAST....
IE always has seemed to run Flash slower than other browsers. For the most part, I've found FireFox and Netscape to play flash at the closest speed to the standalone player. A quick note on security, however... I wonder how such a fairly new browser can really stand up to one that's been assaulted by every kind of exploitive attack ever conceived by the teeming hordes of anti-corporate malintents? Probably full o' holes, but then again, FireFox hasn't nearly as many enemies. Kinda like Switzerland or something. angryB
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 05:49:42 GMT, "Angry Binary" [quoted text, click to view] <angrybinary@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >"luvcraft" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message >news:crf6sp$7lg$1@forums.macromedia.com... >>I think I have a similar problem, but the other way around; a flash game >>I'm >> working on plays at a consistent speed in IE, but all of my friends who >> use >> firefox tell me it runs way too FAST.... > >IE always has seemed to run Flash slower than other browsers. For the most >part, I've found FireFox and Netscape to play flash at the closest speed to >the standalone player. > >A quick note on security, however... I wonder how such a fairly new browser >can really stand up to one that's been assaulted by every kind of exploitive >attack ever conceived by the teeming hordes of anti-corporate malintents? >Probably full o' holes, but then again, FireFox hasn't nearly as many >enemies. Kinda like Switzerland or something. > >angryB >
Firefox is open source and the community usually responds really quick on fixes. Sometimes even before they become public. Also, IE has so many item turned on by default that there is much more to attack. The real problem with IE is Microsoft who move at a turtle pace to fix problems and only then when it becomes big enough so that it generates
Flash Player is notorious for playing at varying speeds on different platforms and not keeping the same speed throughout. Adding a synchronised soundtrack to it can help, as the player will slow or skip frames to keep in sync with the sound .. but also adds to the file size. You may be better writing you movie to use frame-rate independent animation (ie use getTimer to look at time elapsed since last movement and calculate where you should be now). Do NOT rely on setInterval to first at regular intervals, or at the specified rate .. it doesn't. For larger delays its not too bad, but for delays close to the frame rate or slower, it can get quite bad. Always check with getTimer to see how much time has ACTUALLY elapsed. -- All the best, Jeckyl
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