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Firefox kills flash Jorge
1/2/2005 9:58:52 PM
flash (macromedia):
Supposedly a lot of people want to switch to Firefox and some MMedia
evengelists like urami even have buttons on their sites encouraging people
to use Firefox instead of IE.

The problem is that whenever you install Firefox, you have to install the
flash plug-in all over again.
It is not included in the base installation like with IE, so stats like 96%
of surfers have Flash are meaninglkess.

Even morer serious problem is Flash plugin performance under Firefox. It is
attrocious. On middle of the road machines everything seems like running in
slow motion, especially games. IT IS USELESS.

Until this is fixed Flash community should stay the hell away from Firefox
and not encourage anybody to use it. ( whether this dismal performance is
the fault of the MMedia or just the plug-in architecture as opposed to
activeX I don't know, but IT MUST BE FIXED ).

And finally Firefox is not inherently any more secure than IE anyway, it's
just that virus writers aren't going to bother with such a small percentage
of users. If Firefox ever does gain a significant share, they will target it
and we will have just as incesure browser which on top of that kills all
Flash has to offer.

Firefox in its current state = garbage.

Re: Firefox kills flash Tom Unger
1/2/2005 10:40:20 PM
Jorge;
What is your source for this information? Perhaps I've been lucky, but
I've installed firefox on several systems (varying specifications) and I
have experienced none of these issues thus far...
-Tom Unger

Re: Firefox kills flash posted.by(Vern);
1/2/2005 11:38:23 PM
How many hundreds or thousands of machines have you tried it on? Surely no
one would be so silly as to make such comments based on just a handful of
machines. Personally, I have five machines here at home, all running
Firefox with no issues what-so-ever. The machines in use range from a P1
266mHz to a P4 2.2gHz and they all run fine. Pentium, Celeron no matter.
Guess I have the only five setups that work. And yes, since I stopped using
the giant target that says "SHOOT AT ME" called Internet Explorer, I have
much more time for stuff I WANT to do, rather than spending precious time
DAILY trying to solve what-ever crap the lastest hacker devised today.

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Regards,
--Vern
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Re: Firefox kills flash meltedown
1/3/2005 3:32:33 AM
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You are partially right. Firefox is so far superior to IE that I would
use it even if I couldn't use flash. Even if the security was worse than
IE, I would sill use it instead of IE. However, having said that, it is
more secure, and I never had to do anything special to get Flash to work.

Re: Firefox kills flash phatkow
1/3/2005 4:27:08 AM
Re: Firefox kills flash Davehalo1
1/3/2005 10:50:58 AM
I haven't had any problems either,
I have been doing a lot of streaming work with video and Firefox plays it
all splendidly !

Dave.

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Re: Firefox kills flash Jorge
1/3/2005 2:03:10 PM
My source is seeing it on several macines between 866mhz and 2.0ghz.

Check out any web site which uses more animation and higher frame rates
( like 2advanced, flashlevel, which use 60 fps in flash ) and then check
out games.
First look at it in IE running the latest player , and then in Firefox
running the latest player
Try some games from miniclip.com for example.

They all run in slow motion when played in Firefox, much slower than in IE.
It's vey similar to slowness of the mac player compared to the pc side

Also whenever you install Firefox, you have to install the flash plug-in
separately.
With nIE, it's just there, maybe not the latest version , but at least v. 6


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Re: Firefox kills flash Jorge
1/3/2005 2:30:11 PM
Try this simple game engine I found on flashkit

http://www.mondomaniatrics.com/blog/masterlao/engines/index.htm

Click on hero> spawn hero then use up arrow key to jump and left right to
run

In firefox it's 3 times slower ( any machine around 1ghz ). This si
absolutely unacceptable.

2advanced cut scenes/animations also take 3 times longer to play out in
firefox.




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Re: Firefox kills flash urami_
1/3/2005 3:52:25 PM


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Same here
in fact I'm very happy with firefox , been mass installing it all over office
and clients.


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Happy New Year and all the best to all of you guys !!!


<urami>
http://www.Flashfugitive.com
</urami>


<web junk free>
http://www.firefox.com
Re: Firefox kills flash urami_
1/4/2005 7:12:25 AM


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Weird, look ame in here. No kidding it even seem more smooth in firefox.
Re: Firefox kills flash luvcraft
1/4/2005 10:55:21 PM
I think I have a similar problem, but the other way around; a flash game I'm
working on plays at a consistent speed in IE, but all of my friends who use
firefox tell me it runs way too FAST. I tried it under firefox on my own
klunker, and for me it runs a little slower than it does in IE. Could anyone
give me some pointers on what more I can do to standardize the speed? Before
anyone suggests it, I should mention that I've made sure they have pipelining
turned off.

The game can be found here:

http://www.studiohunty.com/dungeon
Re: Firefox kills flash alanlivin
1/4/2005 11:25:17 PM
I went to the link to test it out because I've been using Firefox for a long
time now, and I definitely prefer it over IE. The flash game/video at that
link played just fine for me. It gave me no problems whatsoever, and I've
played several other flash games on firefox as well with no problems.
Re: Firefox kills flash Angry Binary
1/5/2005 5:49:42 AM
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IE always has seemed to run Flash slower than other browsers. For the most
part, I've found FireFox and Netscape to play flash at the closest speed to
the standalone player.

A quick note on security, however... I wonder how such a fairly new browser
can really stand up to one that's been assaulted by every kind of exploitive
attack ever conceived by the teeming hordes of anti-corporate malintents?
Probably full o' holes, but then again, FireFox hasn't nearly as many
enemies. Kinda like Switzerland or something.

angryB

Re: Firefox kills flash Donald Link
1/5/2005 9:34:34 AM
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 05:49:42 GMT, "Angry Binary"
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Firefox is open source and the community usually responds really quick
on fixes. Sometimes even before they become public. Also, IE has so
many item turned on by default that there is much more to attack. The
real problem with IE is Microsoft who move at a turtle pace to fix
problems and only then when it becomes big enough so that it generates
Re: Firefox kills flash Jeckyl
1/5/2005 10:00:16 AM
Flash Player is notorious for playing at varying speeds on different
platforms and not keeping the same speed throughout. Adding a synchronised
soundtrack to it can help, as the player will slow or skip frames to keep in
sync with the sound .. but also adds to the file size.

You may be better writing you movie to use frame-rate independent animation
(ie use getTimer to look at time elapsed since last movement and calculate
where you should be now). Do NOT rely on setInterval to first at regular
intervals, or at the specified rate .. it doesn't. For larger delays its
not too bad, but for delays close to the frame rate or slower, it can get
quite bad. Always check with getTimer to see how much time has ACTUALLY
elapsed.
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All the best,
Jeckyl

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