Hello all,

First things first, I must say that I know very, VERY little about Flash, and
nothing at all of Director.

I found a shockwave blackjack game on the web a few years ago that I liked,
and implemented it on my own site
..http://www.bartlett-family.net/chrisbartlett/blackjack/play2.html

Same game, same "dcr" file, just valid code. BUT, the second game does NOT
work in IE. Could someone help me figure out why?

Thank you very, very much.

Chris

WorldBuilder;
Not to offend, but you may not get much help without letting the other
develpers here know if you have the owners permission to put these games on
your site?
-Tom Unger

I don't find that offensive, and can certainly understand that. I don't know
who the "owner" is.

I got the file from www.freeblackjacktips.com several years ago. At the time,
I e-mailed the webmaster there (I forget his name now) and he told me that it
was fine. If no one wants to help me because of suspicion, e-mail him, but I
highly doubt he'll remember me.

Oh well.

I've had it for years on various sites with no problem. He knows (or did
know).

I'd really like to know a solution to this problem, please.

HTH,

Chris

All understood and taken to heart, Dave.

I am in a browser (FF) and wasn't aware of the difference between this and a
news client. I'll try the Director forum (assuming I can find it).

Actually, the Satay method is how I got as far as I did, but I'm now at a
complete standstill. Erf...

Thanks for your info and help.

Chris

Good heavens.

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Ok. Show me the Director forum, and I'll post there...

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this forum, because the practice is rude (your message is no more important
than anyone else's).
http://www.macromedia.com/support/forums/guidelines.html

I am well aware of the forum rules. After an hour, though, my post was on
page 3! No one's going to see it there. I have been courteous. I'm sorry to
keep bumping this, but I won't do it anymore. So, will anyone actually help
me, though?


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least. If IE has the Shockwave plug-in, the DCR will work, provided the
file is correctly embedded in the HTML -- which probably makes this an HTML
question, but without seeing your code, we won't know.


My IE does have the plugin. I'm sure it IS an html question (in a sense).
But it's Flash (or Director) generated html code. As far as code, all you have
to do is view the 2 sites I linked to originally (the original working, but
invalid & the newer, valid page that doesn't work in IE) to see the difference.
View Source is a beautiful thing.

I'd really appreciate any help. I apologize for getting frustrated, but I
figured when I got here that if the people in a Macromedia-specific forum
couldn't help, no one could. There has to be SOMEONE who knows how to get this
working.

Instead, I'm getting yelled at for everything under the sun. So I'll tell you
what. I'll stop bumping and talking, and hope that a good soul will help out.

Have a good day.

Chris

*BUMP*

Sorry, but I could use some help if anyone knows.

Thanks!

WorldBuilder,

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Good heavens.

1) You're posting about a Director file in a Flash forum. Why?

2) You're bumping your posts, which is a "don't" in the guidelines for
this forum, because the practice is rude (your message is no more important
than anyone else's).
http://www.macromedia.com/support/forums/guidelines.html

3) The file involved "doesn't work in IE," which is vague, to say the
least. If IE has the Shockwave plug-in, the DCR will work, provided the
file is correctly embedded in the HTML -- which probably makes this an HTML
question, but without seeing your code, we won't know.


David
stiller (at) quip (dot) net
"Luck is the residue of good design."

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I don't know if you're posting from a news client, such as Outlook
Express, or from your browser. If you're in a browser, look to the main
nav, click Support > Forums, then find Director under the Product Forums
section. If you're in a news client, open forums.macromedia.com and find
the macromedia.director.basics group.

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So ... they just don't apply to you?

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That tells me you *are* in a browser. News clients, which many of the
contributors here use, don't have pages, so this isn't a consideration.
Bumping your posts doesn't affect their standing in news clients at all. In
the browser version, they put your post at the top again, which is
effectively as rude as cutting in line.

Sometimes questions aren't answered for days. And in any case, what
makes your question more urgent than someone else's -- more important than
people who don't bump? Many people who answer questions search for topics
in their expertise and do, in fact, find questions three pages deep.

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Except for the bumping, right?

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Probably.

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HTML is HTML. Flash and Director, both, generate embedding code for
you, but they can only do what browsers will accept. It's possible you
copied/pasted incorrectly. It's possible that the code generated is old by
today's standards.

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When it comes to plug-ins and validated code, you'll be in for
headaches, for sure. If it's truly important to you that your HTML is
validated, you may just have to live with certain plug-ins not working in a
given browser. IE happens to not be a particularly standards-compliant
browser, which is a shame, since it's so popular. There is a
valid-conscious way of embedding Flash movies (SWFs), for example, known as
the Satay method ...

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/

.... read up on it to see the tedium and difficulties involved. There may,
in fact, be a standards-compliant way to embed DCRs, but it would likely be
just as tedious.

In the end, this truly *is* an HTML question. The Director forum may
help you better, but your best bet is to hunker down and study the object
and embed tags, get to know them, and experiment with them. Neither Flash
nor Director does something "special" to the HTML, which is a good thing:
it means you have countless resources out there, because HTML is widely
studied. I can't stress enough, though, that you may not be able to embed
this DCR with valid, standards compliant code ... the reality of that is one
of the many challenges of working in the web world, and why (for example)
one often hears mild disdain toward Flash and Director content on the
Dreamweaver forum. These multimedia files muddy the water a bit.

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Not everything, just the parts that worried people, like the possibility
of your stealing another's work -- which you've covered, and I see no reason
to disbelieve you -- and the bumping. I don't hear yelling, though, in any
case.


David
stiller (at) quip (dot) net
"Luck is the residue of good design."

*BUMP* again...

Anyone, please?

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It's in there. :) Here's hoping someone in that group will know what
you need; however, my suspicion is, you won't find a Director-savvy person
who is also HTML standards complant savvy.

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Best of luck. Keep your chin up.


David
stiller (at) quip (dot) net
"Luck is the residue of good design."

WorldBuilder;
As David pointed out the game is a director file, and this is a flash
forum, so I would also recommend that you should try posting in one of the
macromedia director forums. I did try your link to take a look at the html,
but the page completely crashed firefox here and I didn't have time to
troubleshoot that issue as well. Someone in the director forum will be more
knowlegeable and better set-up to check it out for you. Best of luck with
it. -Tom Unger