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Re: SEO - google please see my flash! Chris (mudbubble)
3/24/2006 4:59:37 PM
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google can see flash sites or at least the text in an swf - do a google search for "flash animator"
and my all-flash index page is on google's 4th page - i dont subscribe to any search engine
optimizations.

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Re: SEO - google please see my flash! Chris (mudbubble)
3/24/2006 5:42:33 PM
i always hear and read very different thoughts on this. Here's what I have found:

http://flashmx2004.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3810
http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum104/259.htm
http://www.webrankinfo.com/english/seo-news/topic-6598.htm
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=454163&seqNum=2&rl=1
http://www.webpronews.com/ebusiness/seo/wpn-4-20040907GoogleCanNowIndexFlashAnInterviewwithMichaelMarshall.html

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Re: SEO - google please see my flash! Chris (mudbubble)
3/24/2006 5:52:22 PM
i see what you are saying but my page title does not have the keywords "flash" or "animator" in it.
It may be due to links from other sites i am sure. but page 4 of google just because of links from
others? perhaps - just seems like such a general term and page 4 being pretty high up there.






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SEO - google please see my flash! aphexkx
3/24/2006 9:47:37 PM
i understand that it is a bad idea to have a big block of flash for search
engines finding your site, but i love flash and you can create the best
effects/interavtivity by using the whole page. Ive read countless articles, im
waiting for my Macromedia Flash File Format (SWF) Specification software (not
really sure what thats all about anyway) but basically i want my sites to get
good search engine results without having to cut up and play down my
animations. can anyone pass on any knowledge from their own experience or
methods. thanks for any input. :D

aphexkx
Re: SEO - google please see my flash! cygon
3/24/2006 10:27:48 PM
chris, your page comes up in the engine but it's not the content in your flash
movie that google is reading. it's your page title and the text between your
<noscript> tags. your page also comes up under "flash animator" becuase it's a
popular site. and other sites link back to you.

from a conversation I had with a frined of mine who works for google, google
does not have the ability to "read" the content in a swf file...yet. the engine
is still slow to index and crawl pdfs but that's another topic. google will
index the page the flash movie embeded in however.

your best bet with SOE and flash is to have your descriptions and keywords in
place.
Re: SEO - google please see my flash! cygon
3/25/2006 12:00:00 AM
your key words play a big part in this too.

<META Name="Keywords" content="animation, animator, flash animation, flash
animator, animating, animations, artist, art, film, video, flash mx, flash,
macromedia flash, shockwave, freelance, multimedia, interactive, freelance,
designer, design, art, communication, web, 2d, 2.5D, illustrator, webdesigner,
graphics, media, interactive, artist, arts">

you have "flash animator" in your key words and no where else on your index
page, not even in the content of the flash file. You also have a popular site
that been out ther for a while, allowing others to have a stable link to you.


Re: SEO - google please see my flash! Chris (mudbubble)
3/25/2006 12:45:11 AM
correct - but i have read from too many posts and various sources that google does not use META tags
- I am not cliaming what is true or not true - i don't know the exact technology behind various
search engines - but there seems to be a lot of information and articles out there about how google
parses text in SWF files - yet when I read public discussions about it, there is always somebody who
knows someone who is an employee/developer/otherwise for the actual search engine company who claims
it isn't true.
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You said your friend who worls for google says google can not search flash files - yet on google's
site this is easily found:
http://www.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=4302&query=flash&topic=0&type=f

"Google does index pages that use Macromedia Flash. However, our crawlers may experience problems
indexing Flash pages. If you're concerned that Flash content on your pages may be inhibiting
Google's ability to crawl your site, you may want to consider using a text browser such as Lynx to
examine your site. If features such as Flash keep you from seeing all of your site in a text
browser, then search engine spiders may have trouble crawling your site..."

So this is admittedly confusing to read one thing then read another saying the complete opposite.
Does your google friend know google can index flash pages? just curious.

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Re: SEO - google please see my flash! Chris (mudbubble)
3/25/2006 12:51:23 AM

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I realize you may have meant "content" meaning graphics, images, etc...anything other than text used
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