Ok,I just bought the lic to the flashcom server personal ed. correct me if im wrong, but 1MB is that per connection? or is that 1MB shared between 50 connections? Maximum Megabits per second Maximum Connections Price Expiration I know from the sample_videoconferance I can not operate one cam and a chat with two people in it!
No replies???? My Question still stands, Is it 1 MB Shared between 50 users? Or 1 MB per person with 50 connections allowed? Do I have the ability now to provide 50 users with 50 connections after paying five hundred dollars? Or Do I have the ability to provide 1 cam and 2 or 3 users? If I had known it was going to take $7,500 for me to develop anything worth having! I might not have invested the first one! What is it? 1 per person or 1 MB shared between fifty? Truth in advertisement would have said, 1MB shared between fifty people. From what I am seeing and in reality that is about 50 connections that do nothing at all... Or 1 cam and 2 viewers maybe! At 192 X 192 (7) and someone else can view you. If you add one sound stream you pay 500.00 for the server that will server two people at the max! Two people on cam sill lock it up! Its not worth it unless you pay the 7500.00
Ok here is the skinny, it is 1MB cap up to 50 users. Let me explain: you can with a live video feed get your 1MB cap with a couple of users, or if you are making a chat room (text only) get 50 users and not hit the 1MB cap, it is whatever is reached first. As for your cam feed you can limit bandwith on a piblished stream to support more users. It just sounds like you need to do that.
[quoted text, click to view] blackheart45 wrote: > Ok,I just bought the lic to the flashcom server personal ed. > correct me if im wrong, but 1MB is that per connection? or is that 1MB shared > between 50 connections? > > Maximum Megabits per second Maximum Connections Price Expiration > > I know from the sample_videoconferance I can not operate one cam and a chat > with two people in it! >
You can have 50 users connected at once And you FCS supports bandwidth 1 Mbit/s Your bandwidth meens connected people summary speed can not be 1 Mbit/sec (about 128 Kbytes/sec ). As usual it's anought for 5-10 people to communicate with camera and microphone, although this depends of camera quality and resolution.
1 MB shared between 50 users is maybe enough to give each one a connection light. And who in the heck would want a chat room written with Action Script when you have perl and jave out there? The only good thing about flash is it's ability to stream video, and you can not do that with 1MB shared between 50 people! If you find enough idiots like me to rip off like that, then you should by pass Bill Gates in no time at all! Don't think i been ripped off this bad since I bought the webconference system! That wouldn't even run on my server! Your One MB shared between 50 users isn't worth my time to screw with much less worth the money I paid for it! MacroMedia.. A bunch of pirates, Thank you! And with that, I'll have nothing more to do with you'll... *poofism and goners*:P:frown;
The Flash Communication server license cost is pathetic and very overpriced. Let me explain: A license of 1Mbit per second is in practice not much at all (if it was before), because of the way FlashCom calculates the bandwidth. 1. The 1Mbit/s is a TOTAL bandwidth, meaning sum of outgoing and incoming data per second. 2. The effective formula for a video chat, by that I mean where people chat toghether in a group where everybody can see everybody else video stream and is: b = bi + bo where bi = n * s and bo = n * (n - 1) * s where b - total bandwidth, subject to license limit bi - downlink bandwidth (server incoming) bo - uplink bandwidth (server outoing) n - amount of users participating s - bandwidth used per stream, for average video chat with headshots, is approx. 1Kb/s So for lets say 20 users at the same time you have: = 20 * 1 + 20 * 19 * 1 = 400Kb/s = 3.2Mbit/s You can see how much bandwidth you need just to make a chat with 20 people each seeing 19 headshots 80x60 refreshing once each 2 seconds (yes, this is what 1Kb/s stream can do). I came into this by my own will with not many expectations and no prejudice, but I really think Macromedia is going too far with these prices (2500 users, 10Mbit/s license costs 7000$ as far as I know (confirm?)) . At least for individuals this is not an option. The future is P2P :D
yeah P2P has it's advantages.... but considering there is no server to re-route the streams.........instead of a user sending one up-stream to the server and then the server routing it to all connected clients....he/she would have to send a stream to each connected user. considering a connections upload is usually slower then download it might be too intensive for many-many video apps..... and i think the price of the license is closer to $5000 US.... still expense
Berzy, Do you know some developers, who can develop p2p a/v chat application for 5000$, I am interested. Is developer give me unlimited license? Please give me his contact info.
FCS is a good product as AUDIO server. As VIDEO server, image LAG will be a BIG problem, because costly FCS server bandwidth is limited.
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