"DJS2C" <firespindesignTAKEOUT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi I am a print designer who has never done web work , but in the spirit
of
> bravado I have around 10 months to produce a smashing e-commerce primerily
> with internet only tune downloads (for a charge), and lots of things to
buy.
> Also free streaming movie and much more..
>
> I like Flash sites so I am looking to do all this in Flash , Is this
> possible? i.e I can do everything in Flash? Or will some of the site need
to
> be HTML? I am learning Flash 5 at the moment (PC) and when I have my Mac
> will be using MX. Will I be able to port my work over ok?
>
> Anyadvice on the way forward for me starting out?

"DJS2C" <firespindesignTAKEOUT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> > You brought up many issues, but I'll address one I feel is important.
One
> of
> > the biggest problems I see with "Print Guys" transitioning to get on the
> > web, is they need to get out of the 'it has to look perfect' mode (as
> > required for print production)
>
> Hmm sounds fair enough mate :) nice
>
> and learn the 'file size must be small' mode
> > (to facilitate fast web page loading).
>
> Yes mate I will be heeding to file sizes etc and I guess I know general
web
> technologys I just havnt done any designing yet. I have supplied
> illutrations, graphics etc for web projects tho so am hoping to be ok :)
>
>
> <snip> Google Flash Tutorials
>
> >
> >
> > Larry
> >
>
> Thanks Larry I have found many Flash stuff on the net , was wondering if
> there was any sujestions as to which is best :)?

> You brought up many issues, but I'll address one I feel is important. One
of
> the biggest problems I see with "Print Guys" transitioning to get on the
> web, is they need to get out of the 'it has to look perfect' mode (as
> required for print production)

> (to facilitate fast web page loading).

>
>
> Larry
>

"DJS2C" <firespindesignTAKEOUT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi I am a print designer who has never done web work , but in the spirit
of
> bravado I have around 10 months to produce a smashing e-commerce primerily
> with internet only tune downloads (for a charge), and lots of things to
buy.
> Also free streaming movie and much more..
>
> I like Flash sites so I am looking to do all this in Flash , Is this
> possible? i.e I can do everything in Flash? Or will some of the site need
to
> be HTML? I am learning Flash 5 at the moment (PC) and when I have my Mac
> will be using MX. Will I be able to port my work over ok?
>
> Anyadvice on the way forward for me starting out? Places to go, Things to
> see? What do I get done/do the database of products linked to the site in?
> Flash Action Script. As you can see im at the start. I have a lot of time
> and this is my project.
>
> Laters On
> J
>
>

"DJS2C" <firespindesignTAKEOUT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi I am a print designer who has never done web work , but in the spirit
of
> bravado I have around 10 months to produce a smashing e-commerce primerily
> with internet only tune downloads (for a charge), and lots of things to
buy.
> Also free streaming movie and much more..
>
> I like Flash sites so I am looking to do all this in Flash , Is this
> possible? i.e I can do everything in Flash? Or will some of the site need
to
> be HTML? I am learning Flash 5 at the moment (PC) and when I have my Mac
> will be using MX. Will I be able to port my work over ok?
>
> Anyadvice on the way forward for me starting out? Places to go, Things to
> see? What do I get done/do the database of products linked to the site in?
> Flash Action Script. As you can see im at the start. I have a lot of time
> and this is my project.
>
> Laters On
> J
>
>

"Chris Allen" <c.allen@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Well if you're doing it all yourself you have got a lot to learn in 10
> months and there are lots of other things to think about. Here's few which
> spring to mind.
>
> 1) What's the budget?

> 2) You said you've got 10 months but what happens if it's not ready by
then?
> What are they expecting to be delivered on month 10?

> 3) Other than selling "tunes" or "movies" does the site need to meet any
> other objective? Does it need to talk to an existing system? Maybe an
> accounting system/sales/marketing system?

> 4) Flash sites are nice but are your users going to wait for it to
download?
> 85% of people visiting sites for the first time will give it beween 20-30
> seconds. You'll be competing with a lot of other "tune" sites why would
they
> bother to wait, afterall they come for "tunes" not to look at someone
elses
> idea of a cool site.

> 5) How are your users going to find your site? If you're relying on search
> engines then don't. Flash sites won't get as higher ranking as thier HTML
> equivelant.

> 6) You might be better off with pay-per-click advertising. Is that in the
> budget?
> 7) How are you going to take payment? You might need to arrange a merchant
> number or at least a secure connection. Have you / your client got that in
> thier budget? Maybe go the PayPal route instead? Will your visitors be
happy
> with that?

> 8) How do you expect your visitors to view your site? Maybe most will come
> to download via mobile phones in which case you need to cater/design your
> site with that in mind.

> 9) Chances are your going to need a database to gather info/details behind
> the scenes. Are you familiar with database technology/programming/SQL.
> You'll probably need at least a working knowledge of ASP or PHP and Perl.
> 10) Finally, whose going to maintain the site? How are you going to keep
> your content updated? What's technical level of that person? You might
need
> a CMS system. If so how will that affect your site's design?
>
> Bravado's great but planning's better. Sorry if this sounds a bit harsh,
but
> if you get this wrong it can end up costing you/your boss a lot of
> time/money to put right.
>

> As to your question about PC and Mac Flash files, yes they're
interchangeble
> between platforms. We do it all the time and have no problems.
>

> Good luck!

> Chris
J
> http://www.embright.co.uk
>
> "DJS2C" <firespindesignTAKEOUT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cjupuo$rl$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > Hi I am a print designer who has never done web work , but in the spirit
> of
> > bravado I have around 10 months to produce a smashing e-commerce
primerily
> > with internet only tune downloads (for a charge), and lots of things to
> buy.
> > Also free streaming movie and much more..
> >
> > I like Flash sites so I am looking to do all this in Flash , Is this
> > possible? i.e I can do everything in Flash? Or will some of the site
need
> to
> > be HTML? I am learning Flash 5 at the moment (PC) and when I have my
Mac
> > will be using MX. Will I be able to port my work over ok?
> >
> > Anyadvice on the way forward for me starting out? Places to go, Things
to
> > see? What do I get done/do the database of products linked to the site
in?
> > Flash Action Script. As you can see im at the start. I have a lot of
time
> > and this is my project.
> >
> > Laters On
> > J
> >
> >
>
>

"DJS2C" <firespindesignTAKEOUT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your input mate
> Think I will answer some questions on here anyway
> "Chris Allen" <c.allen@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:ckeobi$a04$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Well if you're doing it all yourself you have got a lot to learn in 10
> > months and there are lots of other things to think about. Here's few
which
> > spring to mind.
> >
> > 1) What's the budget?
>
> till working out, a thousand or two I guess but the content is sorted out
> realy
>
> > 2) You said you've got 10 months but what happens if it's not ready by
> then?
> > What are they expecting to be delivered on month 10?
>
> We shall have to prospone, but Im aiming for a fiished site.
>
> > 3) Other than selling "tunes" or "movies" does the site need to meet any
> > other objective? Does it need to talk to an existing system? Maybe an
> > accounting system/sales/marketing system?
>
> The site will be comunity based and have imput from the VJ community. No
to
> the last lot, just another sites database and our own.
>
> > 4) Flash sites are nice but are your users going to wait for it to
> download?
> > 85% of people visiting sites for the first time will give it beween
20-30
> > seconds. You'll be competing with a lot of other "tune" sites why would
> they
> > bother to wait, afterall they come for "tunes" not to look at someone
> elses
> > idea of a cool site.
>
> Noted Im considering a flash intro and elements but html site. But am
mostly
> looking at a total flash site as I lke the vector syle.
>
> > 5) How are your users going to find your site? If you're relying on
search
> > engines then don't. Flash sites won't get as higher ranking as thier
HTML
> > equivelant.
>
> Not by search engine. Advertising and due to the name it will be visited
>
> > 6) You might be better off with pay-per-click advertising. Is that in
the
> > budget?
> > 7) How are you going to take payment? You might need to arrange a
merchant
> > number or at least a secure connection. Have you / your client got that
in
> > thier budget? Maybe go the PayPal route instead? Will your visitors be
> happy
> > with that?
>
> Yeh merchant account.
>
> > 8) How do you expect your visitors to view your site? Maybe most will
come
> > to download via mobile phones in which case you need to cater/design
your
> > site with that in mind.
>
> Good point. Computer and Phone
>
> > 9) Chances are your going to need a database to gather info/details
behind
> > the scenes. Are you familiar with database technology/programming/SQL.
> > You'll probably need at least a working knowledge of ASP or PHP and
Perl.
> > 10) Finally, whose going to maintain the site? How are you going to keep
> > your content updated? What's technical level of that person? You might
> need
> > a CMS system. If so how will that affect your site's design?
> >
> > Bravado's great but planning's better. Sorry if this sounds a bit harsh,
> but
> > if you get this wrong it can end up costing you/your boss a lot of
> > time/money to put right.
> >
>
> have done lots of planning, need to learn and implement
>
> > As to your question about PC and Mac Flash files, yes they're
> interchangeble
> > between platforms. We do it all the time and have no problems.
> >
>
> Good
>
> > Good luck!
>
> Thanks
>
> > Chris
> J
> > http://www.embright.co.uk
> >
> > "DJS2C" <firespindesignTAKEOUT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:cjupuo$rl$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > > Hi I am a print designer who has never done web work , but in the
spirit
> > of
> > > bravado I have around 10 months to produce a smashing e-commerce
> primerily
> > > with internet only tune downloads (for a charge), and lots of things
to
> > buy.
> > > Also free streaming movie and much more..
> > >
> > > I like Flash sites so I am looking to do all this in Flash , Is this
> > > possible? i.e I can do everything in Flash? Or will some of the site
> need
> > to
> > > be HTML? I am learning Flash 5 at the moment (PC) and when I have my
> Mac
> > > will be using MX. Will I be able to port my work over ok?
> > >
> > > Anyadvice on the way forward for me starting out? Places to go,
Things
> to
> > > see? What do I get done/do the database of products linked to the site
> in?
> > > Flash Action Script. As you can see im at the start. I have a lot of
> time
> > > and this is my project.
> > >
> > > Laters On
> > > J
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>