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Chris Georgenes
8/2/2006 12:08:56 PM
Are you talking about the "compress movie" feature? if so - i always use it - no reason not to as it
will make your swf movies smaller in file size.
as for "jittery", not sure what that means but it doesn't have anything to do woth compression and
file size.

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bB_
8/2/2006 3:32:47 PM
Hey. Before you publish .swf files..for a website..would you compress them as
well to improve animation/performance etc..coz i;ve seen a few complex websites
that run very smoothly on my computer but some of my ownprojects can be
slightly jittery at times when viewing online? is there a technique to solving
this??
bB_
8/3/2006 12:00:00 AM
thanks ..yeh that is the compression button i'm talking about. but i'm trying
to solve a jittery animtion in the background. meaning it doesn't run smoothly.
ive created a square graphic in Macromedia/(soon to be Adobe) Fireworks which
has different effects applied to it to create the impression it is smoke. to
make a better, smoother animation would you recommend i save it not as a .png
but convert it to something else? ie. jpg or gif? or would this not affect the
animation.(series of motion tweens)? i hope you understand what i'm trying to
describe. :s
Moca
8/3/2006 12:00:00 AM
why dont you post the swf so we can look at it...it would make it easier
Chris Georgenes
8/3/2006 12:00:00 AM
"soon to be Adobe" happened months ago :)
Try going to www.macromedia.com and note the redirect.

As for jittery animation problem - again, nothing to do with compressing the movie. You probably
need to adjust the frame rate but if we can't see what you are doing it's all guesswork - can you
post the SWF to a URL?

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Chris Georgenes
8/3/2006 12:37:50 PM
sorry - wasnt trying to patronize - the way you worded that made it sound like you were not aware of
the aquisition of adobe/macromedia - but now i realize you were talking about the next release of
fireworks - it was just really unclear what you were trying to say.

as for your site - i couldn't wait for the whole thing to load - i mean, seriously, on my broadband
connenction i waited 30-40 seconds for the "skin" to load - then once it did i was presented with
another loader and waited longer for some other part of the site to load and i simply did not have
time to wait to see if there was more to load beyond that - i also didn't know what portion of the
site you were talking about.
I think before needing website critiquing that maybe you concentrate on optimizing graphics - and we
are getting off-topic, not sure if you are still needing advice about jittery animation (try raising
the frame rate) or a lesson in overall web design.
What I did see looked nice but I tend to shy away from global/general critiques of web design since
i don't think i am all that great a designer to give advice and i think the entire topic is too
subjective.

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Chris Georgenes
8/3/2006 2:53:44 PM
The loader itself is fine. What I mean by "graphics" (if i understand correctly) is the images i am
seeing.

Typically, to load a site quickly create a parent "shell" SWF that contains enough graphics and
content to keep the visitor entertained. Then have each section loaded dynamically as external SWFs
(use loadMovie) when the user clicks to see them. It is not a good use of flash to create a
meaga-huge website and make users wait until 100% of it has been loaded - regardless if they care to
see 100% of it.

Search the help docs, this forum or sites like www.kirupa.com and www.gotoandlearn.com for
"loadMovie" if you need help with this.

The graphics that i did see look very cool - just the site overall needs to be setup differently.

As for the jittery issue - usually happenes when motion tweening something a very short distance
over a great length od time.

hope this helps.

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bB_
8/3/2006 3:14:55 PM
hmm.interesting patronism .. but i think you'll find the actual programs Flash
8 and Fireworks 8 are under the macromedia name and that the version 9's are
the ones which will be released under the Adobe name :) anyway that aside...

the project is my first..a website for my band..I'm a 17 year old aspiring web
designer and along with your tips on how to make my animation better :s i'd
like any advice on making the site better overall so i can improve on it and be
more the wiser for future projects..if any?? cheers.



http://www.polkemmetpipeband.com
ps. the animation in main im talking about is the fading grey background.
Chris Georgenes
8/3/2006 5:34:37 PM
Fireworks or Photoshop shouldnt make a difference - a bitmap is a bitmap - i always like to import
as uncompressed PNG format into flash and then set the JPG compression in flash - i have more
control that way.

I say make the tweens shorter - that will decrease file size also.

I'm not in LA - opposite side of US (east coast), very different lifestyle :)

Thanks for the kind words :)

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bB_
8/3/2006 5:48:48 PM
well thanks foryour input..loading is an issue and the technique i;m using
isn't that great but i just wanted to get the site up then concentrate on
getting it worked out a little better. i don't know what you mean by graphics?
if they are a bit rough or cut slightly..off (seen on the wider resolutions)
eh..but hey..loading is a prob..i knew that from the very beginning..and
especially whit ma crappy preloader. : ). dunno if you have any recommendations
on how to load my site better and quicker? do you think i may be using too many
differnt levels?? oor is there a better way to load the background skin,
navigation the nthe content? a last post of help would be great? just to get in
the right direction! :) cheers.
bB_
8/3/2006 8:50:41 PM
kl. i have the site set up so that the background loads...the navigation loads
the nthe content loads. and when the user clicks on say "Media" the content
does load as separate swfs into a movie-clip..so my loading is actually set up
as you are describing. its just i think at the beginning the preloader is doing
less use than it should and its taking more time to actually animate the
preloader than load the content so removing that preloader completely may be a
good idea???:s anyhoo..thanks for telling me about the jittery animation
(jittery must be a word we only use here in scotland! and not LA) :) but motion
tweening for short periods of time across long distances is exactly what seems
to be happening in that beginning .swf. so thanks for that help. I'll look at
,my graphics..some of them are rough and i was intending to cut them a bit
better..but the photos im working with are amateur and ..some of the digi cams
in the band aint that high tech. I'll invest in photo shop instead of fireworks
and that might give me some better results.. and i'll play around with the
reasterization of the images when i import them to flash.

thanks for your help...its has given me a lot of things to think about! :)

cheers

ps. liking ur portfolio also (mudbubble)! =]
Moca
8/4/2006 12:00:00 AM
Very humble Chris, your work freaking rock..

I think the original question was about the smoke effect, and looking at
the site now could be the white animated gradient in the background.. is it?

If so, you mentioned you created that in Fireworks? So is that an series
of images? Or is that a shape tween gradient animation?



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Moca
8/4/2006 12:00:00 AM
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