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Re: ABC Chris Georgenes
9/11/2006 8:53:54 AM
macromedia flash sitedesign:
you are the cure - dont learn from templates - thats the worst way as most of them are slapped
together in an unorganized way just for eye-candy sake to get people to buy them for the "wow" factor.
Flash is a blank canvas - it's up to you as the artist/developer to make it what you want - flash
does not dictate a specific work pattern - quite the opposite as i find it very much freeing. You
can make text as small or as big as you want - animations as long or as short - nothing is crippling
you into a certain way of doing things beyond your control.

look at quality flash sites here:

www.thefwa.com

you aren't approaching flash with the right mindset - once you learn it, you will understand it more.

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ABC Adobob
9/11/2006 12:10:49 PM
Hello,

I am trying Adobe Flash for the first time, to build a website, and have a few
comments and questions.

The first comment is that Flash Pro offers no way to make a high-level
structure of the website,
namely a separation between media and content.

On the website content:

1. With no need to use any computer, one collects texts and photos for the
website, and organizes them in pages.
2. It must be possible to input the above work into the web editor, regardless
of any graphic theme.
3. When the website content is in place, much of the work is done, and one can
turn one's attention to the media,
namely the structure (how the content is arranged within each page, and the
links between pages) and the graphics.

As far as I can see, Flesh offers no way to do this. The content and the media
are blended.

On the website media:

I browsed various Flesh templates to make up ideas about what Flash can do as
a media. I am utterly disappointed,
because the media takes the reader's attention away from the content. More
often than not, the font is too small, the
transition between pages is slow and animated, and the audio does the rest.
Elegance is completely missing.
This is a problem of design, not of Flesh itself. However, one's the above
content (text, photos, and structure) are
in place, it should be possible to finish the website by adding the graphics.
It seems to me that Flesh is about this
last step, while all of the above is missing.

Please let me know if there is a cure to the disease...

Robert Hunter

Re: ABC Moca
9/11/2006 11:53:54 PM
I have to disagree with you in some points :)

Maybe the sites you have seen are indeed just badly designed. Maybe you
saw one of mine, I am guilty as charged. On the other hand there are
fantastic examples of "dynamic" flash where data is completely separate
from the design and very elegant.

It all comes down to the developer's skill level and I think Flash gives
everyone a lot of freedom to do good and bad things, just like any
software tool.

I have been a big fan of css based sites as well where you can change
the entire look of a site from 1 css file. I really admire those who can
do it.
Have you tried to create a fully "valid" site? To me is just not fun and
very frustrating. Having to deal with all the browser "personalities"
and tags just kills the fun of creating but for some it makes a more
standard web...

As far as a cure for the disease, a good Information Architecture book
could be a start. I believe the methods can be applied for flash and
non-flash sites that will make better websites all around.

Sorry if I just went off to a different path :)

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Re: ABC Adobob
9/17/2006 12:00:00 AM
Re: ABC Adobob
9/17/2006 12:00:00 AM
.... Apple Keynote *version 2*, as version 3 does not have the "export to swf" feature.

Bob
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