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important as which interface you use to communicate with the DB engine. How many indexes are being used? How many rows are you trying to add? Remember, ADO is NOT a good bulk copy interface--not until ADO 2.0 which includes BCP functionality. I always suggest DTS/BCP for importing lots of rows. When adding a few rows (a dozen or so) a second ADO holds up just fine. More than that you probably should consider a bulk insert strategy as you'll be spending all of your time doing round trips to the server to add the rows individually. ADO 2.0 also has smarter "batch" updates that can help as well... but that won't be here until next year (sometime). -- ____________________________________ William (Bill) Vaughn Author, Mentor, Consultant Microsoft MVP www.betav.com Please reply only to the newsgroup so that others can benefit. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. __________________________________ [quoted text, click to view] "William Ryan eMVP" <dotnetguru@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message news:uj4cPsqZEHA.2844@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > Ian: > > It's a hard thing to benchmark in 'general' terms b/c the hardware and way > you code the app will have a more profound impact. Furhtermore, in the > scenario that you mention, things should be damned fast either way - most > performance differences don't show themselves until there is some stress on > the app. > > MSDE has many advantages though. 1) you can use the SQLClient library which > is going to be faster than ODBC. There are specific providers and they have > a huge impact on performance. 2) You get all of the featueres of SQLServer > NOW. I still don't think mySQL has Stored procs - but I haven't checked > recently. > > I think you can probably rest assured that going forward MSDE will continue > to get support and features from MS that won't be available to other > providers too. > > -- > W.G. Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded > > Have an opinion on the effectiveness of Microsoft Embedded newsgroups? > Let Microsoft know! > https://www.windowsembeddedeval.com/community/newsgroups > "Ian" <ianinmalaga@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:O$9JZLoZEHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > > Hi there, > > > > I am currently writing an application for NNTP, the application requires > > very FAST inserts, updates etc. > > > > I started to write it with mySQL and I got good results, I was wondering > if > > anyone can confirm speed comparisions (and other comparisons) using MSDE > > rather than mySQL. > > > > As far as i know my app which runs on the desktop requires no special > > licenses to use MSDE but mySQL does. > > > > The application with only have 1 concurrent user and is being developed > with > > c# Visual Studio.net, although there will be only 1 user accessing the > > database (desktop application) there could be around 10 connections to the > > database.. > > > > Any help or information anybody can offer would be gratefully appreciated > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Ian > > > > > > > >
Ian:
It's a hard thing to benchmark in 'general' terms b/c the hardware and way you code the app will have a more profound impact. Furhtermore, in the scenario that you mention, things should be damned fast either way - most performance differences don't show themselves until there is some stress on the app. MSDE has many advantages though. 1) you can use the SQLClient library which is going to be faster than ODBC. There are specific providers and they have a huge impact on performance. 2) You get all of the featueres of SQLServer NOW. I still don't think mySQL has Stored procs - but I haven't checked recently. I think you can probably rest assured that going forward MSDE will continue to get support and features from MS that won't be available to other providers too. -- W.G. Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded Have an opinion on the effectiveness of Microsoft Embedded newsgroups? Let Microsoft know! https://www.windowsembeddedeval.com/community/newsgroups [quoted text, click to view] "Ian" <ianinmalaga@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:O$9JZLoZEHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > Hi there, > > I am currently writing an application for NNTP, the application requires > very FAST inserts, updates etc. > > I started to write it with mySQL and I got good results, I was wondering if > anyone can confirm speed comparisions (and other comparisons) using MSDE > rather than mySQL. > > As far as i know my app which runs on the desktop requires no special > licenses to use MSDE but mySQL does. > > The application with only have 1 concurrent user and is being developed with > c# Visual Studio.net, although there will be only 1 user accessing the > database (desktop application) there could be around 10 connections to the > database.. > > Any help or information anybody can offer would be gratefully appreciated > > Thanks in advance > > Ian > > >
Hi there,
I am currently writing an application for NNTP, the application requires very FAST inserts, updates etc. I started to write it with mySQL and I got good results, I was wondering if anyone can confirm speed comparisions (and other comparisons) using MSDE rather than mySQL. As far as i know my app which runs on the desktop requires no special licenses to use MSDE but mySQL does. The application with only have 1 concurrent user and is being developed with c# Visual Studio.net, although there will be only 1 user accessing the database (desktop application) there could be around 10 connections to the database.. Any help or information anybody can offer would be gratefully appreciated Thanks in advance Ian
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"Ian" <ianinmalaga@hotmail.com> wrote in message However, to install MSDE on your clients, your clients must own MS/Officenews:O$9JZLoZEHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > As far as i know my app which runs on the desktop requires no special > licenses to use MSDE but mySQL does. > suite in order to use MSDE free. John
Ah no. Not any longer. There aren't any such restrictions.
-- ____________________________________ William (Bill) Vaughn Author, Mentor, Consultant Microsoft MVP www.betav.com Please reply only to the newsgroup so that others can benefit. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. __________________________________ [quoted text, click to view] "WJ" <JohnWebbs@HotMail.Com> wrote in message news:OvD$gXuZEHA.3692@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > "Ian" <ianinmalaga@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:O$9JZLoZEHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > > > As far as i know my app which runs on the desktop requires no special > > licenses to use MSDE but mySQL does. > > > However, to install MSDE on your clients, your clients must own MS/Office > suite in order to use MSDE free. > > John > >
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"William (Bill) Vaughn" <billvaRemoveThis@nwlink.com> wrote in message news:OalZM%23vZEHA.2444@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > Ah no. Not any longer. There aren't any such restrictions. > Must be nice. Hail to MS :) John
THanks everyone for there comments...
I have settled on MSDE ... but must ensure I optimize etc Thanks again Ian [quoted text, click to view] "William (Bill) Vaughn" <billvaRemoveThis@nwlink.com> wrote in message news:OalZM%23vZEHA.2444@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > Ah no. Not any longer. There aren't any such restrictions. > > -- > ____________________________________ > William (Bill) Vaughn > Author, Mentor, Consultant > Microsoft MVP > www.betav.com > Please reply only to the newsgroup so that others can benefit. > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. > __________________________________ > > "WJ" <JohnWebbs@HotMail.Com> wrote in message > news:OvD$gXuZEHA.3692@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > > "Ian" <ianinmalaga@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:O$9JZLoZEHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > > > > > As far as i know my app which runs on the desktop requires no special > > > licenses to use MSDE but mySQL does. > > > > > However, to install MSDE on your clients, your clients must own MS/Office > > suite in order to use MSDE free. > > > > John > > > > > >
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