> Amdrit,
>
> Some simple questions:
> How long did it take for you and your team to get to the design you have
> now.
> How many resources do you have (people you have interviewed by instance)
> How many documents does your knowledge base contains that made this
> design?
>
> As one of those extended half an hour, what do you than expect from us,
> while if it is less................ I assume what I want to write then.
>
> Cor
>
>
> "AMDRIT" <amdrit@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
> news:u8HpXXZmHHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Bill,
>>
>> I appreciate the offer but I will make do with what I have. I don't
>> think this question invades trade secrets and I should not have to pay
>> someone "smarter" or "more experienced" than I to say "Oh you are looking
>> to create an abstract factory."
>>
>> When given a question, each of us begin to formulate the answer based on
>> knowledge and experience. I wouldn't know about Subject/Observer with
>> out someone taking the time to mention it, and then me browsing the web
>> to get a handle on it.
>>
>> Someone somewhere encountered a situation that I described, then
>> formulated a pattern and then they or someone around them coined a term
>> for the the pattern. This is the tidbit that I am looking for. I can
>> read and, for the most part, I am self taught in everything computer.
>>
>> While I may not be awarded the MVP, contributed in as many publications,
>> or speak Thai, I am accomplished in my own right. Not taking anything
>> from your incredible journey and experiences, I just want it to be known
>> that I was not looking for someone to do my homework.
>>
>> If I wanted formal training on a subject, such as test driven
>> development, then I would look to hire someone to train my team and I. I
>> don't think modeling data at a 10K foot level counts as formal training.
>>
>> I can appreciate that several of my last posts go unanswered, usually
>> they are long winded and more complex than the average post.
>> Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a community for folks at my
>> level. I don't pretend to have all the answers, nor have I encountered
>> every type of issue out there. I rely on my intuition, my experience,
>> and my team to get the job done. My team and I are pretty intelligent
>> and resolve issues on our own or via peer training.
>>
>> So now, we will invent our own pattern and give it a name. We will
>> create a write up about it and post it on the code project. That is,
>> ofcourse, we are able to minimize impact on performance and development
>> with the solution.
>>
>> I did not take your post as a personal afront, please do not read the
>> same into mine. I realize you have to put food on the table just as I
>> do, I did not take this as a cheap plug post, I am just not prepared to
>> bring in more talking heads on a project that is well manned.
>>
>>
>> "William (Bill) Vaughn" <billvaRemoveThis@betav.com> wrote in message
>> news:uAC9qzYmHHA.4852@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> It sounds like you need a few hours/days with a consulting data access
>>> architect. Many contributors to this newsgroup do that for a living (or
>>> as a sideline) and yes, that is something that Beta V Corporation does.
>>>
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>>> "AMDRIT" <amdrit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ebgkOwWmHHA.2272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Got a puzzler for anyone wanting to take on a challenge.
>>>>
>>>> I have some data, which represents something like an insurance policy.
>>>> The
>>>> customer may call up and change the level of coverage at any time.
>>>> These
>>>> changes may or may not produce a change in premium but may produce a
>>>> change
>>>> in legal obligation for my company.
>>>>
>>>> In the event that a customer places a claim on their policy, my company
>>>> must
>>>> first verify that there was coverage on the policy for the date of the
>>>> claim.
>>>>
>>>> What this boils down to is that I need to intellegently preserve
>>>> transactional state of the policy each time a change is made. I am
>>>> looking
>>>> for an effiecient way to store this data in the database and relate to
>>>> it in
>>>> my business logic.
>>>>
>>>> Currently what I am doing is creating a parent table for each of my
>>>> entities
>>>> that act as a place holder for each entity and then I create a details
>>>> table
>>>> to house the data points of interest. I relate the data via a parent
>>>> transaction table and a child transaction details table. A record is
>>>> created
>>>> in the transaction detail table for each row in a detail table that is
>>>> inserted.
>>>>
>>>> Given the insurance example:
>>>>
>>>> Policy
>>>> PK PolicyID
>>>>
>>>> Policy Detail
>>>> FK PolicyID
>>>> FK TransactionDetailID
>>>>
>>>> Driver
>>>> PK DriverID
>>>> FK PolicyID
>>>>
>>>> Driver Detail
>>>> FK DriverID
>>>> FK TransactionDetailID
>>>>
>>>> Vehicle
>>>> PK VehicleID
>>>> FK PolicyID
>>>>
>>>> Vehicle Detail
>>>> FK VehicleID
>>>> FK TransactionDetailID
>>>>
>>>> Transaction
>>>> PK TransactionID
>>>> FK PolicyID
>>>>
>>>> Transaction Detail
>>>> FK TransactionID
>>>>
>>>> In this model there are three types of allowed changes:
>>>> -- A correction, which allows updates and are not transactional (highly
>>>> critical of data allowed to be modified.)
>>>> -- A transactional change in policy coverage, (clone business objects,
>>>> change desired data points, insert new row)
>>>> -- A reversal, which allows a transactional change to be reversed.
>>>>
>>>> Reversals throw out the biggest challenge, because the transaction it
>>>> affected is no longer valid, so the one before it becomes the current
>>>> transaction again. Reversals have the affect of never happened, and
>>>> will be
>>>> ignored when checking for coverage. Reverals will display in the
>>>> transaction