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macromedia players flash : Flash for Linux?


salfner
11/1/2006 11:33:22 PM
The latest Flash Player for Linux has major version 7. More and more Websites
exist for which version 7 is not sufficient anymore. Are newer versions of the
Flash Player ported to Linux? If so, does anybody know any release date?
Jeckyl
11/2/2006 12:00:00 AM
Adobe has been announcing these recently .. not sure if fully released or
still in beta.
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Jeckyl

salfner
11/2/2006 12:00:00 AM
LinuxGuy3
11/12/2006 3:48:00 PM
Don't hold your breath. Seems like they are not interested in the Linux
Community.
I guess with enough pressure, web sites will either find an alternative that
everyone can use,
or by some miracle, Adobe will Hire a Linux prgrammer to complete the player
for us to use.
I would like to see the latter, especially since the Linux community has grown
like never before just this last year.


Jeckyl
11/13/2006 12:00:00 AM
Here we go .. another Linux winger, who chooses to use a minority platform
and then wonders why the support for it by commercial software companies is
not as good. If you wanted good commercial software, then you shouldn't
have picked Linux. Go for Windows (or maybe Mac). You can't expect to have
your cake and eat it to. Not that Linux isn't a good platform, or is a poor
choice .. but you get what you pay for (or don't pay for) and availability
of software for your platform of choice should be a part of your decision to
adopt it. maybe you should be looking at broadening your horizons to
embrace a mainstream O/S like Windows (or Mac if you prefer unix-like os) if
you want to have the widest range of software.

And really ... do you think they don't have Linux programmers there working
on their Linux port .. you think maybe they got the tea-lady to do some
programming on the side for them? How dumb do you think Adobe is? And how
limited your understanding of the issues involved in both a port and overall
product planning and development resource management.
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Jeckyl

Jeckyl
11/13/2006 12:00:00 AM
thisisnottaken999123
11/21/2006 6:08:10 PM
Well Jeckyl, I think you've pretty much made a complete fool of yourself
between those two posts. Seems to me that the LINUX version of flash9 is
actually BETTER than the winsucks version. Why? Well for one, you just download
the file and copy it into your plugins directory and it JUST WORKS. On the
other hand, if you scroll through this forum, post after post after post is
saying the the winsucks version *DOESN'T WORK*, or at least, a very large
portion of the time.

Its really saying something when the BETA LINUX version works better than the
STABLE WINSUCKS version.
Jeckyl
11/22/2006 12:00:00 AM
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Reeally .. How? What you're saying here seems to completely agree with
everything I've been saying.

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That's great. I don't see why it wouldn't be.

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Yeup. I'm not happy either with the bugs in Flash and Flash Player over the
years . And I've long complained about Macromedia's apparent policy of
leaving bugs unfixed for years and instead concentrating on adding new
features (and new bugs) instead of getting a stable working product.

Maybe this time they got it right. Good on them. it sounds like all the
work they've been doing on the porting (which all the Linux wingers here
seemed to think wasn't happening) has paid off.

But I still don't see in anyway how I'm made a fool of myself.

If anything it has confirmed my repeated assertions the Adobe was working
hard on the port, that the issue were not trivial and required some time to
get done properly to get good performance and stability.

It the Linux wingers demanding a release and complaining that Adobe is
ignoring them and not working on the port and having no idea about Linux
programming and porting that are the fools. Everything comes to those who
wait.
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Jeckyl

Jeckyl
11/23/2006 12:00:00 AM
Funny .. post today from Seehun242 about Flash Player 9.0.21.78 for Linux

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With more than one Flash animation/app playing, Firefox and all Gecko-based
browsers (like Galeon) will grind to a halt.
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Makes you look kinda foolish when you're spouting off how the Linux beta is
so wonderful :)

Guess it still has some work to go yet. And, as I've said repeatedly, Adobe
is working on the Linux player port and want to do it right.
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Jeckyl

LinuxGuy3
1/4/2007 12:41:01 AM
I am not sure that I am a Winger or not, however I am an Electrical Engineer
and have my PHD in Engineering and Networks.
I design and built security system for networks and CCTV and hold
three US Patents.
With that stated, I would like to ask you try Linux and see what is is to be
in control of your OS, instead of it controlling you.

There are both good and bad in every OS produced. Many professionals that use
Unix/Linux do so because of the 70% market share of todays web Servers compared
to Microsoft's 20% share. (10% to others).
Since we have learned that Unix/Linux serve better we know that Desktop System
will afford us better protection against Virii, Intrutions, Spyware,
Trojan-horses, & Adware.
Evidently you are a mainstream user, and there is nothing wrong with that,
except you speak as if you understand both OS's. It is evident you do not
understand why people have dropped Windows and moved on. to Linux.
It is not about free as in free beer, it is free as in freedom.
I donate regularly to Unix/Linux projects and support them.
and I don't mind paying for Linux programs either. I would pay for Macromedia
flash player for my Linux system. Just because my
Suse Linux sold for USD 60. and the Windows OS wit Office and CD/DVD burning
software and Programming languages such as C++ , would have cost me over USD
1000 per machinewith my 11 systems that is USD 11,000
I found linux can do all of it.for USD 660
It is a matter of economics and security.
Simply put Linux is a better OS In My Humble and Educated Opinion

Jeckyl
1/4/2007 1:44:20 PM
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It doesn't sound like it from the post you jsut made :)

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That's nice for you :)

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Personally, I'm quite happy with Windows, and as the software I develop is
for Windows, and it has al the tools I need for doing that .. so it makes no
sense for me to use anything else. So I will decline your invitation, it
really would just be a waste of time for me with my current job etc.

And for others, such as yourself, Linux can very well be the better choice
(for the various reasons you outline).

Its all a matter of your requirements and what the various platforms offer
to meet those requirements.

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I do understand, but it really is irrelevant to the complaints here. Noone
is saying that Linux is a bad operating system, or that people should not
use it. Its a personal (or business) decision for what operating system to
use.

But as part of that decision, one should take into account that availablilty
of software. If you can get what you want with Linux, that's great. If
not, then maybe you should look at a platform that DOES provide it. If
developing flash applications, or visiting Flash-based websites, is what you
need to be doing, then Linux does not seem the correct choice.

As an analogy, if you were buying a home entertainment system that did not
include a provision for a DVD player, and you wanted to play DVD's, then
your decsion to use that system would not be a good one, depite how much
better the sound or video quality might be.

Other people (the Linux whingers) do seem to think that, because they feel
Linux is the best operating system, and that they have chosen to use it,
that EVERYONE must feel that way, and that all companies should make their
software for Linux etc etc, and that to no do so is somhow a bad business
decision and that indicates membership of the secret anti-linux society that
is headed by Bill Gates etc etc. Really.. people that make those sort of
claims and complatins are either naive, fanatics, or insecure in their
decision to use Linux.

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That may well be.

But, again, it is completely irrelevant regarding the availability of a
Linux version of Flash Player. And certainly irrelevant to the complaints
that porting to Linux should be trivial and that Adobe are in some
clandestine arrangement with Microsoft to kill of Linux (or whatever other
conspiracy theories they seem to have).

If Adobe/Macromedia are wanting to get their Flash platform onto as many
users computers as possible, then it is sensible to develop for Windows and
Mac first, and port to less popular (consumer) operating systems after that.
Especially if they are in the situation of having a codebase that was not
originally written to be cross-platform (its quite an old codebase), which
makes porting to other OS non-trivial. Ideally, if Adobe was starting on
Flash Player completely from scratch, they would certainly develop it to be
cross-platform from the ground up so porting WOULD then be trivial. But
that is not the way things are, whinging about it isn't going to change it.

Anyway .. good luck with Linux, patents etc etc, and I hope the Flash Player
for Linux platforms works well when finally fully released (I think its
still in Beta).
--
Jeckyl

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