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nomailplease@smyonic.net wrote: > Does anyone know of a good place to search for Usenet news? I used to > use groups.google but that's become more and more corrupt with Google-only > and Corporate-posting-only Groups over the past few years. > > Do a search on "no.flash websites" for example. The first 6+ hits are > from Adobe's corporate macromedia "discussion" groups and all appear to > be moderated to insure that no flash-critical post goes unchallenged. > I'd be surprised if Google didn't receive a fat check from Adobe for > ranking this topic in such a corporation-friendly way. > > I still need an unbiased source to do research. Any recommendations? > > MHawley I am sure there are many people out there who would be willing and able to create such a thing. Just identify them, send along a Google sized budget and allow a few years for development. --
Does anyone know of a good place to search for Usenet news? I used to use groups.google but that's become more and more corrupt with Google-only and Corporate-posting-only Groups over the past few years. Do a search on "no.flash websites" for example. The first 6+ hits are from Adobe's corporate macromedia "discussion" groups and all appear to be moderated to insure that no flash-critical post goes unchallenged. I'd be surprised if Google didn't receive a fat check from Adobe for ranking this topic in such a corporation-friendly way. I still need an unbiased source to do research. Any recommendations?
Scripsit nomailplease@smyonic.net:
[quoted text, click to view] > Does anyone know of a good place to search for Usenet news? By sending to three groups where the question is grossly off-topic and by using a probably forged email address, you indicate disrespect for Usenet conduct, so it would be immoral to try to help you before you learn to behave. -- Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca") http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php use the nntp feed from your ISP Even better learn TIN one of the text based readers.
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Phil Nelson wrote: [quoted text, click to view] > I am sure there are many people out there who would be willing and > able to create such a thing. Just identify them, send along a Google > sized budget and allow a few years for development. That's hilarious, Phil. You've gotten straight to the point! I have a smaller size USENET archive (in the sig) for a few years now and I can tell that it requires enormous amount of upkeep with all the junk that gets tossed into Usenet daily. As far as the OP's desire to get an unbiased search is concerned: you can go ahead and search my archive if you want but please don't expect Google's reach and retention. For that you need those small things mentioned in Phil's post! -- Cheers, Dmitri See Site Sig Below - +----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Follow comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html,ba.internet,macromedia.players.flash threads | with your Firefox Live Bookmarks! Set it up at | http://www.1-script.com/forums/ +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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In ba.internet www.1-script.com <info_at_1-script_dot_com@foo.com> wrote: >Phil Nelson wrote: >> I am sure there are many people out there who would be willing and >> able to create such a thing. Just identify them, send along a Google >> sized budget and allow a few years for development. > >go ahead and search my archive if you want but please don't expect >Google's reach and retention. For that you need those small things >mentioned in Phil's post! Evidently I should also budget some Microsoft/Google sized bucks for astroturfing.
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writing in news:45d37f3c$0$14088$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net: [quoted text, click to view] > > Does anyone know of a good place to search for Usenet news? I used to > use groups.google but that's become more and more corrupt with > Google-only and Corporate-posting-only Groups over the past few years. > > Do a search on "no.flash websites" for example. The first 6+ hits are > from Adobe's corporate macromedia "discussion" groups and all appear > to be moderated to insure that no flash-critical post goes > unchallenged. I'd be surprised if Google didn't receive a fat check > from Adobe for ranking this topic in such a corporation-friendly way. > > I still need an unbiased source to do research. Any recommendations? > > MHawley I still use Google Groups at work because I don't have nntp access at work. The groups I frequent are on the list that I can access once I am signed in. If I am looking for a particular group, then I drill down to the group I want. Then there's always nntp through a newsreader, or some other Usenet providers, Supernews and Easynews come to mind. -- Adrienne Boswell at Home Arbpen Web Site Design Services http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info Please respond to the group so others can share
On 14 Feb 2007 21:29:32 GMT, <nomailplease@smyonic.net> wrote in
<45d37f3c$0$14088$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>: [quoted text, click to view] >Does anyone know of a good place to search for Usenet news? I used to >use groups.google but that's become more and more corrupt with Google-only >and Corporate-posting-only Groups over the past few years. > >Do a search on "no.flash websites" for example. The first 6+ hits are >from Adobe's corporate macromedia "discussion" groups and all appear to >be moderated to insure that no flash-critical post goes unchallenged. >I'd be surprised if Google didn't receive a fat check from Adobe for >ranking this topic in such a corporation-friendly way. > >I still need an unbiased source to do research. Any recommendations? Use Advanced Search in Google Groups, and specify the relevant Usenet newsgroups. -- Best regards,
Thu, 15 Feb 2007 02:13:16 GMT from Adrienne Boswell
<arbpen@yahoo.com>: [quoted text, click to view] > I still use Google Groups at work because I don't have nntp access at > work. That must be why I see so few of your articles. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://OakRoadSystems.com/ HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/ validator: http://validator.w3.org/ CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/ validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ Why We Won't Help You:
Troll alert. And some more garbage dumped, over and over- you are the
scurge of of your own complaining. How many times will you write this tripe b.s? Get a life. Consider this a prompt for your top post rant! Enjoy yet another chance to spam the world with your sig... [quoted text, click to view] On Feb 14, 10:24 pm, "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorp...@cs.tut.fi> wrote: > Scripsit nomailple...@smyonic.net: > > > Does anyone know of a good place to search for Usenet news? > > By sending to three groups where the question is grossly off-topic and by > using a probably forged email address, you indicate disrespect for Usenet > conduct, so it would be immoral to try to help you before you learn to > behave. > > -- > Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
[quoted text, click to view] "Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote in message news:MPG.203ec8743ea35b9898a9bb@news.individual.net... > Thu, 15 Feb 2007 02:13:16 GMT from Adrienne Boswell > <arbpen@yahoo.com>: >> I still use Google Groups at work because I don't have nntp access at >> work. > > That must be why I see so few of your articles. I apparently missed the memo: Now if you post on Google Groups the post is only on Google Groups, and doesn't flow to USENET and to sonic and supernews, etc?
Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:32:14 -0800 from Bob Mgr
<kilbyfan@spammenotAOL.com>: [quoted text, click to view] > > "Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote in message > news:MPG.203ec8743ea35b9898a9bb@news.individual.net... > > Thu, 15 Feb 2007 02:13:16 GMT from Adrienne Boswell > > <arbpen@yahoo.com>: > >> I still use Google Groups at work because I don't have nntp access at > >> work. > > > > That must be why I see so few of your articles. > > I apparently missed the memo: Now if you post on Google Groups the post is > only on Google Groups, and doesn't flow to USENET and to sonic and > supernews, etc? No, unfortunately. But many folks have decided that the signal/noise ratio from Google Groups posters is so low that in self defense we killfile everything from that source. Yes, we miss the occasional article from someone worth reading; but if we let Google Groups through we'd be so swamped that we'd probably miss it anyway. See http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://OakRoadSystems.com/ HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/ validator: http://validator.w3.org/ CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/ validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ Why We Won't Help You:
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On 2007-02-22, Stan Brown wrote: .... > No, unfortunately. But many folks have decided that the signal/noise > ratio from Google Groups posters is so low that in self defense we > killfile everything from that source. Yes, we miss the occasional > article from someone worth reading; but if we let Google Groups > through we'd be so swamped that we'd probably miss it anyway. I don't killfile posts from GG, and I don't see anything approaching being "swamped". The problem is nothing like what it was a couple of years ago. -- Chris F.A. Johnson <http://cfaj.freeshell.org> =================================================================== Author:
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[quoted text, click to view] Bob Mgr <kilbyfan@spammenotAOL.com> wrote: >I apparently missed the memo: Now if you post on Google Groups the post is >only on Google Groups, and doesn't flow to USENET and to sonic and >supernews, etc? God do I wish. That would sure cut down on the spam. Sadly, they're still polluting Usenet proper. -Patti -- Patti Beadles, Oakland, CA | pattib~pattib.org | http://www.pattib.org/ | http://www.urbanscapephoto.com
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