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Actually Ken that's not quite right. Your code would fail if aDataSet is
Nothing because both clauses are evaluated and nothing cannot be evaluated. The more precise transation would be to use the OrElse statment, which short circuits if aDataSet is nothing, therefore the second clause would not be evaluated and there would be no error. Dim Result as Boolean = IsNull(aDataSet) OrElse (aDataSet.Tables.Count = 0) -- I hope this helps, Steve C. Orr, MCSD, MVP http://SteveOrr.net [quoted text, click to view] "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BANSPAMken_cox@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:OeNpjdWDFHA.3256@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > Looks like a logical OR to me... > > Dim Result As Boolean = (aDataset Is Nothing) Or (aDataset.Tables.Count = > 0) > > Sets Result to true if aDataset is Nothing or if there are zero tables in > aDataset > Sets Result to false if aDataset has been initialized or if it has at > least one table. > > "hansiman" <hansi@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:7krf015mr0hb4o615sekfp0jetnpfo7nup@4ax.com... >> on http://www.bsdg.org/2005/01/empty-dataset.shtml >> I came across this C# code: >> >> bool Result = ( aDataset == null ) || ( aDataset.Tables.Count == 0 ); >> >> I think I know what it is supposed to do! >> How is this coded in VB >> >
Looks like a logical OR to me...
Dim Result As Boolean = (aDataset Is Nothing) Or (aDataset.Tables.Count = 0) Sets Result to true if aDataset is Nothing or if there are zero tables in aDataset Sets Result to false if aDataset has been initialized or if it has at least one table. [quoted text, click to view] "hansiman" <hansi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7krf015mr0hb4o615sekfp0jetnpfo7nup@4ax.com... > on http://www.bsdg.org/2005/01/empty-dataset.shtml > I came across this C# code: > > bool Result = ( aDataset == null ) || ( aDataset.Tables.Count == 0 ); > > I think I know what it is supposed to do! > How is this coded in VB >
Actually, it's an OrElse as it's short-circuit
You should always be using OrElse when doing logical comparisons instead of Or...or should only be used as a bit operator.. Karl -- MY ASP.Net tutorials http://www.openmymind.net/ [quoted text, click to view] "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BANSPAMken_cox@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:OeNpjdWDFHA.3256@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > Looks like a logical OR to me... > > Dim Result As Boolean = (aDataset Is Nothing) Or (aDataset.Tables.Count = 0) > > Sets Result to true if aDataset is Nothing or if there are zero tables in > aDataset > Sets Result to false if aDataset has been initialized or if it has at least > one table. > > "hansiman" <hansi@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:7krf015mr0hb4o615sekfp0jetnpfo7nup@4ax.com... > > on http://www.bsdg.org/2005/01/empty-dataset.shtml > > I came across this C# code: > > > > bool Result = ( aDataset == null ) || ( aDataset.Tables.Count == 0 ); > > > > I think I know what it is supposed to do! > > How is this coded in VB > > >
Ha!
I should have known better than to hazard a response about C#! Thanks Steve for setting it straight. Ken [quoted text, click to view] "Steve C. Orr [MVP, MCSD]" <Steve@Orr.net> wrote in message
news:%23aizzhWDFHA.3324@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > Actually Ken that's not quite right. Your code would fail if aDataSet is > Nothing because both clauses are evaluated and nothing cannot be > evaluated. The more precise transation would be to use the OrElse > statment, which short circuits if aDataSet is nothing, therefore the > second clause would not be evaluated and there would be no error. > > Dim Result as Boolean = IsNull(aDataSet) OrElse (aDataSet.Tables.Count = > 0) > > -- > I hope this helps, > Steve C. Orr, MCSD, MVP > http://SteveOrr.net > > > "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BANSPAMken_cox@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:OeNpjdWDFHA.3256@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> Looks like a logical OR to me... >> >> Dim Result As Boolean = (aDataset Is Nothing) Or (aDataset.Tables.Count = >> 0) >> >> Sets Result to true if aDataset is Nothing or if there are zero tables in >> aDataset >> Sets Result to false if aDataset has been initialized or if it has at >> least one table. >> >> "hansiman" <hansi@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:7krf015mr0hb4o615sekfp0jetnpfo7nup@4ax.com... >>> on http://www.bsdg.org/2005/01/empty-dataset.shtml >>> I came across this C# code: >>> >>> bool Result = ( aDataset == null ) || ( aDataset.Tables.Count == 0 ); >>> >>> I think I know what it is supposed to do! >>> How is this coded in VB >>> >> > >
Thanks Karl! From now on I'll leave the C# questions to the guys who know
it! <grin> "Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> [quoted text, click to view] wrote in message news:%23qe2GjWDFHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Actually, it's an OrElse as it's short-circuit > > You should always be using OrElse when doing logical comparisons instead > of > Or...or should only be used as a bit operator.. > > Karl > > -- > MY ASP.Net tutorials > http://www.openmymind.net/ > > > "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BANSPAMken_cox@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:OeNpjdWDFHA.3256@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> Looks like a logical OR to me... >> >> Dim Result As Boolean = (aDataset Is Nothing) Or (aDataset.Tables.Count = > 0) >> >> Sets Result to true if aDataset is Nothing or if there are zero tables in >> aDataset >> Sets Result to false if aDataset has been initialized or if it has at > least >> one table. >> >> "hansiman" <hansi@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:7krf015mr0hb4o615sekfp0jetnpfo7nup@4ax.com... >> > on http://www.bsdg.org/2005/01/empty-dataset.shtml >> > I came across this C# code: >> > >> > bool Result = ( aDataset == null ) || ( aDataset.Tables.Count == 0 ); >> > >> > I think I know what it is supposed to do! >> > How is this coded in VB >> > >> > >
on http://www.bsdg.org/2005/01/empty-dataset.shtml
I came across this C# code: bool Result = ( aDataset == null ) || ( aDataset.Tables.Count == 0 ); I think I know what it is supposed to do! How is this coded in VB
thanks a lot :-)
Ehhh. I'm using IsDbNull not IsNull - seem to work. NB I enjoy your aspnetpro column. On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 14:57:46 -0800, "Steve C. Orr [MVP, MCSD]" [quoted text, click to view] <Steve@Orr.net> wrote:
>Actually Ken that's not quite right. Your code would fail if aDataSet is >Nothing because both clauses are evaluated and nothing cannot be evaluated. >The more precise transation would be to use the OrElse statment, which short >circuits if aDataSet is nothing, therefore the second clause would not be >evaluated and there would be no error. > >Dim Result as Boolean = IsNull(aDataSet) OrElse (aDataSet.Tables.Count = 0)
Well, there IS one other exception to that rule, Karl. If you have a
specific reason for needing to evaluate BOTH experssions (such as function calls that return booleans, but must be made), you should also use the Or operator. -- HTH, Kevin Spencer Microsoft MVP ..Net Developer Neither a follower nor a lender be. "Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> [quoted text, click to view] wrote in message news:%23qe2GjWDFHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > Actually, it's an OrElse as it's short-circuit > > You should always be using OrElse when doing logical comparisons instead > of > Or...or should only be used as a bit operator.. > > Karl > > -- > MY ASP.Net tutorials > http://www.openmymind.net/ > > > "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BANSPAMken_cox@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:OeNpjdWDFHA.3256@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> Looks like a logical OR to me... >> >> Dim Result As Boolean = (aDataset Is Nothing) Or (aDataset.Tables.Count = > 0) >> >> Sets Result to true if aDataset is Nothing or if there are zero tables in >> aDataset >> Sets Result to false if aDataset has been initialized or if it has at > least >> one table. >> >> "hansiman" <hansi@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:7krf015mr0hb4o615sekfp0jetnpfo7nup@4ax.com... >> > on http://www.bsdg.org/2005/01/empty-dataset.shtml >> > I came across this C# code: >> > >> > bool Result = ( aDataset == null ) || ( aDataset.Tables.Count == 0 ); >> > >> > I think I know what it is supposed to do! >> > How is this coded in VB >> > >> > >
I agree this leads to hard-to-read code that is prone to errors, and
therefore should be avoided. This was the argument for having Or function like OrElse does (so that OrElse wouldn't be necessary) but that battle was lost. :-( -- I hope this helps, Steve C. Orr, MCSD, MVP http://SteveOrr.net "Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> [quoted text, click to view] wrote in message news:uMqGFQjDFHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > Kevin: > My personal opinion is that this leads to > hard-to-read-gonna-cause-problems-down-the-road code. Far better to nest > the if statement in those rare instances. But ur right..it could be used > for that. > > Karl > -- > MY ASP.Net tutorials > http://www.openmymind.net/ > > > "Kevin Spencer" <kevin@DIESPAMMERSDIEtakempis.com> wrote in message > news:uHv5aBeDFHA.936@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> Well, there IS one other exception to that rule, Karl. If you have a >> specific reason for needing to evaluate BOTH experssions (such as >> function >> calls that return booleans, but must be made), you should also use the Or >> operator. >> >> -- >> HTH, >> >> Kevin Spencer >> Microsoft MVP >> .Net Developer >> Neither a follower nor a lender be. >> >> "Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> >> wrote in message news:%23qe2GjWDFHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> > Actually, it's an OrElse as it's short-circuit >> > >> > You should always be using OrElse when doing logical comparisons >> > instead >> > of >> > Or...or should only be used as a bit operator.. >> > >> > Karl >> > >> > -- >> > MY ASP.Net tutorials >> > http://www.openmymind.net/ >> > >> > >> > "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BANSPAMken_cox@sympatico.ca> wrote in >> > message >> > news:OeNpjdWDFHA.3256@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> >> Looks like a logical OR to me... >> >> >> >> Dim Result As Boolean = (aDataset Is Nothing) Or >> >> (aDataset.Tables.Count > = >> > 0) >> >> >> >> Sets Result to true if aDataset is Nothing or if there are zero tables > in >> >> aDataset >> >> Sets Result to false if aDataset has been initialized or if it has at >> > least >> >> one table. >> >> >> >> "hansiman" <hansi@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:7krf015mr0hb4o615sekfp0jetnpfo7nup@4ax.com... >> >> > on http://www.bsdg.org/2005/01/empty-dataset.shtml >> >> > I came across this C# code: >> >> > >> >> > bool Result = ( aDataset == null ) || ( aDataset.Tables.Count == >> >> > 0 ); >> >> > >> >> > I think I know what it is supposed to do! >> >> > How is this coded in VB >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Kevin:
My personal opinion is that this leads to hard-to-read-gonna-cause-problems-down-the-road code. Far better to nest the if statement in those rare instances. But ur right..it could be used for that. Karl -- MY ASP.Net tutorials http://www.openmymind.net/ [quoted text, click to view] "Kevin Spencer" <kevin@DIESPAMMERSDIEtakempis.com> wrote in message news:uHv5aBeDFHA.936@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > Well, there IS one other exception to that rule, Karl. If you have a > specific reason for needing to evaluate BOTH experssions (such as function > calls that return booleans, but must be made), you should also use the Or > operator. > > -- > HTH, > > Kevin Spencer > Microsoft MVP > .Net Developer > Neither a follower nor a lender be. > > "Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> > wrote in message news:%23qe2GjWDFHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > > Actually, it's an OrElse as it's short-circuit > > > > You should always be using OrElse when doing logical comparisons instead > > of > > Or...or should only be used as a bit operator.. > > > > Karl > > > > -- > > MY ASP.Net tutorials > > http://www.openmymind.net/ > > > > > > "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BANSPAMken_cox@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > news:OeNpjdWDFHA.3256@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > >> Looks like a logical OR to me... > >> > >> Dim Result As Boolean = (aDataset Is Nothing) Or (aDataset.Tables.Count = > > 0) > >> > >> Sets Result to true if aDataset is Nothing or if there are zero tables in > >> aDataset > >> Sets Result to false if aDataset has been initialized or if it has at > > least > >> one table. > >> > >> "hansiman" <hansi@hotmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:7krf015mr0hb4o615sekfp0jetnpfo7nup@4ax.com... > >> > on http://www.bsdg.org/2005/01/empty-dataset.shtml > >> > I came across this C# code: > >> > > >> > bool Result = ( aDataset == null ) || ( aDataset.Tables.Count == 0 ); > >> > > >> > I think I know what it is supposed to do! > >> > How is this coded in VB > >> > > >> > > > > > >
Well, heck guys, I only said that you could. Just covering all the bases.
-- HTH, Kevin Spencer Microsoft MVP ..Net Developer Neither a follower nor a lender be. "Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> [quoted text, click to view] wrote in message news:uMqGFQjDFHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > Kevin: > My personal opinion is that this leads to > hard-to-read-gonna-cause-problems-down-the-road code. Far better to nest > the if statement in those rare instances. But ur right..it could be used > for that. > > Karl > -- > MY ASP.Net tutorials > http://www.openmymind.net/ > > > "Kevin Spencer" <kevin@DIESPAMMERSDIEtakempis.com> wrote in message > news:uHv5aBeDFHA.936@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> Well, there IS one other exception to that rule, Karl. If you have a >> specific reason for needing to evaluate BOTH experssions (such as >> function >> calls that return booleans, but must be made), you should also use the Or >> operator. >> >> -- >> HTH, >> >> Kevin Spencer >> Microsoft MVP >> .Net Developer >> Neither a follower nor a lender be. >> >> "Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> >> wrote in message news:%23qe2GjWDFHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> > Actually, it's an OrElse as it's short-circuit >> > >> > You should always be using OrElse when doing logical comparisons >> > instead >> > of >> > Or...or should only be used as a bit operator.. >> > >> > Karl >> > >> > -- >> > MY ASP.Net tutorials >> > http://www.openmymind.net/ >> > >> > >> > "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BANSPAMken_cox@sympatico.ca> wrote in >> > message >> > news:OeNpjdWDFHA.3256@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> >> Looks like a logical OR to me... >> >> >> >> Dim Result As Boolean = (aDataset Is Nothing) Or >> >> (aDataset.Tables.Count > = >> > 0) >> >> >> >> Sets Result to true if aDataset is Nothing or if there are zero tables > in >> >> aDataset >> >> Sets Result to false if aDataset has been initialized or if it has at >> > least >> >> one table. >> >> >> >> "hansiman" <hansi@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:7krf015mr0hb4o615sekfp0jetnpfo7nup@4ax.com... >> >> > on http://www.bsdg.org/2005/01/empty-dataset.shtml >> >> > I came across this C# code: >> >> > >> >> > bool Result = ( aDataset == null ) || ( aDataset.Tables.Count == >> >> > 0 ); >> >> > >> >> > I think I know what it is supposed to do! >> >> > How is this coded in VB >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Don't worry Kevin, we weren't ganging up on you!
We agree with you. We just didn't want folks to go thinking it was a good idea to go with that kind of design. But you probably already knew that. -- I hope this helps, Steve C. Orr, MCSD, MVP http://SteveOrr.net [quoted text, click to view] "Kevin Spencer" <kevin@DIESPAMMERSDIEtakempis.com> wrote in message news:eRuTkYqDFHA.560@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > Well, heck guys, I only said that you could. Just covering all the bases. > > -- > HTH, > > Kevin Spencer > Microsoft MVP > .Net Developer > Neither a follower nor a lender be. > > "Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> > wrote in message news:uMqGFQjDFHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> Kevin: >> My personal opinion is that this leads to >> hard-to-read-gonna-cause-problems-down-the-road code. Far better to nest >> the if statement in those rare instances. But ur right..it could be used >> for that. >> >> Karl >> -- >> MY ASP.Net tutorials >> http://www.openmymind.net/ >> >> >> "Kevin Spencer" <kevin@DIESPAMMERSDIEtakempis.com> wrote in message >> news:uHv5aBeDFHA.936@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >>> Well, there IS one other exception to that rule, Karl. If you have a >>> specific reason for needing to evaluate BOTH experssions (such as >>> function >>> calls that return booleans, but must be made), you should also use the >>> Or >>> operator. >>> >>> -- >>> HTH, >>> >>> Kevin Spencer >>> Microsoft MVP >>> .Net Developer >>> Neither a follower nor a lender be. >>> >>> "Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> >>> wrote in message news:%23qe2GjWDFHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >>> > Actually, it's an OrElse as it's short-circuit >>> > >>> > You should always be using OrElse when doing logical comparisons >>> > instead >>> > of >>> > Or...or should only be used as a bit operator.. >>> > >>> > Karl >>> > >>> > -- >>> > MY ASP.Net tutorials >>> > http://www.openmymind.net/ >>> > >>> > >>> > "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BANSPAMken_cox@sympatico.ca> wrote in >>> > message >>> > news:OeNpjdWDFHA.3256@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >>> >> Looks like a logical OR to me... >>> >> >>> >> Dim Result As Boolean = (aDataset Is Nothing) Or >>> >> (aDataset.Tables.Count >> = >>> > 0) >>> >> >>> >> Sets Result to true if aDataset is Nothing or if there are zero >>> >> tables >> in >>> >> aDataset >>> >> Sets Result to false if aDataset has been initialized or if it has at >>> > least >>> >> one table. >>> >> >>> >> "hansiman" <hansi@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> >> news:7krf015mr0hb4o615sekfp0jetnpfo7nup@4ax.com... >>> >> > on http://www.bsdg.org/2005/01/empty-dataset.shtml >>> >> > I came across this C# code: >>> >> > >>> >> > bool Result = ( aDataset == null ) || ( aDataset.Tables.Count == >>> >> > 0 ); >>> >> > >>> >> > I think I know what it is supposed to do! >>> >> > How is this coded in VB >>> >> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >> >> > >
I understand, Steve. :)
-- HTH, Kevin Spencer Microsoft MVP ..Net Developer Neither a follower nor a lender be. [quoted text, click to view] "Steve C. Orr [MVP, MCSD]" <Steve@Orr.net> wrote in message news:ubf5LfuDFHA.1392@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > Don't worry Kevin, we weren't ganging up on you! > We agree with you. We just didn't want folks to go thinking it was a good > idea to go with that kind of design. But you probably already knew that. > > -- > I hope this helps, > Steve C. Orr, MCSD, MVP > http://SteveOrr.net > > > "Kevin Spencer" <kevin@DIESPAMMERSDIEtakempis.com> wrote in message > news:eRuTkYqDFHA.560@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> Well, heck guys, I only said that you could. Just covering all the bases. >> >> -- >> HTH, >> >> Kevin Spencer >> Microsoft MVP >> .Net Developer >> Neither a follower nor a lender be. >> >> "Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> >> wrote in message news:uMqGFQjDFHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >>> Kevin: >>> My personal opinion is that this leads to >>> hard-to-read-gonna-cause-problems-down-the-road code. Far better to >>> nest >>> the if statement in those rare instances. But ur right..it could be >>> used >>> for that. >>> >>> Karl >>> -- >>> MY ASP.Net tutorials >>> http://www.openmymind.net/ >>> >>> >>> "Kevin Spencer" <kevin@DIESPAMMERSDIEtakempis.com> wrote in message >>> news:uHv5aBeDFHA.936@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >>>> Well, there IS one other exception to that rule, Karl. If you have a >>>> specific reason for needing to evaluate BOTH experssions (such as >>>> function >>>> calls that return booleans, but must be made), you should also use the >>>> Or >>>> operator. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> HTH, >>>> >>>> Kevin Spencer >>>> Microsoft MVP >>>> .Net Developer >>>> Neither a follower nor a lender be. >>>> >>>> "Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> >>>> wrote in message news:%23qe2GjWDFHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >>>> > Actually, it's an OrElse as it's short-circuit >>>> > >>>> > You should always be using OrElse when doing logical comparisons >>>> > instead >>>> > of >>>> > Or...or should only be used as a bit operator.. >>>> > >>>> > Karl >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > MY ASP.Net tutorials >>>> > http://www.openmymind.net/ >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BANSPAMken_cox@sympatico.ca> wrote in >>>> > message >>>> > news:OeNpjdWDFHA.3256@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >>>> >> Looks like a logical OR to me... >>>> >> >>>> >> Dim Result As Boolean = (aDataset Is Nothing) Or >>>> >> (aDataset.Tables.Count >>> = >>>> > 0) >>>> >> >>>> >> Sets Result to true if aDataset is Nothing or if there are zero >>>> >> tables >>> in >>>> >> aDataset >>>> >> Sets Result to false if aDataset has been initialized or if it has >>>> >> at >>>> > least >>>> >> one table. >>>> >> >>>> >> "hansiman" <hansi@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> >> news:7krf015mr0hb4o615sekfp0jetnpfo7nup@4ax.com... >>>> >> > on http://www.bsdg.org/2005/01/empty-dataset.shtml >>>> >> > I came across this C# code: >>>> >> > >>>> >> > bool Result = ( aDataset == null ) || ( aDataset.Tables.Count == >>>> >> > 0 ); >>>> >> > >>>> >> > I think I know what it is supposed to do! >>>> >> > How is this coded in VB >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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