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I have a network at home which uses a server 2003 machine and no router. The server has 2 nics, one directly to the internet and the other out to the other machines via an 8 port switch. One is a notebook which also is used at my work via a wireless card connected to a wireless router. The problem I am encountering is this. The wireless can access the FTP site on the home server in Passive mode and retrieve all files and upload too.I can also use passive via IE and all is fine.I mainly use Coffecup as a general client.This can also connect in passive mode. However, none of the machines inside the home can access the FTP in passive Including the notebook/laptop. Any Ideas please? Thanks much Joe
I can connect to the FTP sites in both places (via the internet) but I cannot
connect Passive at home. I have to connect in active mode at mome (8 port switch). I access them via the web not the command prompt. and I will try ftp.exe Thanks Bernard Joe [quoted text, click to view] "Bernard" wrote:
> Are you saying: > > wireless notebook via public network (internet) can connect to your IIS ftp > server > but > machines via internal network (8 port switch) can't connect to your IIS ftp > server > > > skip the passive mode first, can any of the internal client > uses ftp.exe to connect at command prompt ? > > is the ftp bind to both internal and public IP ? > > > -- > Regards, > Bernard Cheah > http://www.tryiis.com/ > http://support.microsoft.com/ > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:ECA5142B-3918-409F-9710-9A667337F027@microsoft.com... > > Hello, > > > > I have a network at home which uses a server 2003 machine and no router. > > The server has 2 nics, one directly to the internet and the other out to > the > > other machines via an 8 port switch. > > > > One is a notebook which also is used at my work via a wireless card > > connected to a wireless router. > > > > The problem I am encountering is this. > > > > The wireless can access the FTP site on the home server in Passive mode > and > > retrieve all files and upload too.I can also use passive via IE and all is > > fine.I mainly use Coffecup as a general client.This can also connect in > > passive mode. > > > > However, none of the machines inside the home can access the FTP in > passive > > Including the notebook/laptop. > > Any Ideas please? > > > > Thanks much > > Joe > > > > but all > >
Are you saying:
wireless notebook via public network (internet) can connect to your IIS ftp server but machines via internal network (8 port switch) can't connect to your IIS ftp server skip the passive mode first, can any of the internal client uses ftp.exe to connect at command prompt ? is the ftp bind to both internal and public IP ? -- Regards, Bernard Cheah http://www.tryiis.com/ http://support.microsoft.com/ http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ [quoted text, click to view] "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ECA5142B-3918-409F-9710-9A667337F027@microsoft.com... > Hello, > > I have a network at home which uses a server 2003 machine and no router. > The server has 2 nics, one directly to the internet and the other out to the > other machines via an 8 port switch. > > One is a notebook which also is used at my work via a wireless card > connected to a wireless router. > > The problem I am encountering is this. > > The wireless can access the FTP site on the home server in Passive mode and > retrieve all files and upload too.I can also use passive via IE and all is > fine.I mainly use Coffecup as a general client.This can also connect in > passive mode. > > However, none of the machines inside the home can access the FTP in passive > Including the notebook/laptop. > Any Ideas please? > > Thanks much > Joe > > but all
Hmm.. internally should be able too. how do you connect internally ?
internal IP address ? any firewall in between ? -- Regards, Bernard Cheah http://www.tryiis.com/ http://support.microsoft.com/ http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ [quoted text, click to view] "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:6EF76C38-6366-45BF-9794-D3C30F8CDA19@microsoft.com... > I can connect to the FTP sites in both places (via the internet) but I cannot > connect Passive at home. I have to connect in active mode at mome (8 port > switch). > > I access them via the web not the command prompt. and I will try ftp.exe > > Thanks Bernard > > Joe > > "Bernard" wrote: > > > Are you saying: > > > > wireless notebook via public network (internet) can connect to your IIS ftp > > server > > but > > machines via internal network (8 port switch) can't connect to your IIS ftp > > server > > > > > > skip the passive mode first, can any of the internal client > > uses ftp.exe to connect at command prompt ? > > > > is the ftp bind to both internal and public IP ? > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bernard Cheah > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:ECA5142B-3918-409F-9710-9A667337F027@microsoft.com... > > > Hello, > > > > > > I have a network at home which uses a server 2003 machine and no router. > > > The server has 2 nics, one directly to the internet and the other out to > > the > > > other machines via an 8 port switch. > > > > > > One is a notebook which also is used at my work via a wireless card > > > connected to a wireless router. > > > > > > The problem I am encountering is this. > > > > > > The wireless can access the FTP site on the home server in Passive mode > > and > > > retrieve all files and upload too.I can also use passive via IE and all is > > > fine.I mainly use Coffecup as a general client.This can also connect in > > > passive mode. > > > > > > However, none of the machines inside the home can access the FTP in > > passive > > > Including the notebook/laptop. > > > Any Ideas please? > > > > > > Thanks much > > > Joe > > > > > > but all > > > > > >
Yes, firewall in between. 21 avd 20 are open.
I connect via the web my server has no internal IP. For example: Home laptop) open IE and type ftp://mydomain.com/folder Work laptop) open IE and type ftp://mydomain.com/folder [quoted text, click to view] "Bernard" wrote:
> Hmm.. internally should be able too. how do you connect internally ? > internal IP address ? any firewall in between ? > > > -- > Regards, > Bernard Cheah > http://www.tryiis.com/ > http://support.microsoft.com/ > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:6EF76C38-6366-45BF-9794-D3C30F8CDA19@microsoft.com... > > I can connect to the FTP sites in both places (via the internet) but I > cannot > > connect Passive at home. I have to connect in active mode at mome (8 port > > switch). > > > > I access them via the web not the command prompt. and I will try ftp.exe > > > > Thanks Bernard > > > > Joe > > > > "Bernard" wrote: > > > > > Are you saying: > > > > > > wireless notebook via public network (internet) can connect to your IIS > ftp > > > server > > > but > > > machines via internal network (8 port switch) can't connect to your IIS > ftp > > > server > > > > > > > > > skip the passive mode first, can any of the internal client > > > uses ftp.exe to connect at command prompt ? > > > > > > is the ftp bind to both internal and public IP ? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Bernard Cheah > > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:ECA5142B-3918-409F-9710-9A667337F027@microsoft.com... > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I have a network at home which uses a server 2003 machine and no > router. > > > > The server has 2 nics, one directly to the internet and the other out > to > > > the > > > > other machines via an 8 port switch. > > > > > > > > One is a notebook which also is used at my work via a wireless card > > > > connected to a wireless router. > > > > > > > > The problem I am encountering is this. > > > > > > > > The wireless can access the FTP site on the home server in Passive > mode > > > and > > > > retrieve all files and upload too.I can also use passive via IE and > all is > > > > fine.I mainly use Coffecup as a general client.This can also connect > in > > > > passive mode. > > > > > > > > However, none of the machines inside the home can access the FTP in > > > passive > > > > Including the notebook/laptop. > > > > Any Ideas please? > > > > > > > > Thanks much > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > but all > > > > > > > > > > >
well when I try passive in my real client no folders are available and when I
remove the passive mode in my ftp client they show up and I can then download my files. IF I am at work It will not make a difference passive or non passive. But this is only at home. I know this sounds wierd that is why I posted. It baffled me as to why location mattered? thanks Bernard it just maybe something I have to deal with Joe [quoted text, click to view] "Bernard" wrote:
> And how do you know passive mode is not working ? > IE is not a decent ftp client, I would suggest you get a real ftp client > app. > > -- > Regards, > Bernard Cheah > http://www.tryiis.com/ > http://support.microsoft.com/ > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:7420408A-D93F-479E-B4B6-2B7E13EFBE38@microsoft.com... > > Yes, firewall in between. 21 avd 20 are open. > > > > I connect via the web my server has no internal IP. For example: > > > > Home laptop) open IE and type ftp://mydomain.com/folder > > Work laptop) open IE and type ftp://mydomain.com/folder > > > > > > > > "Bernard" wrote: > > > > > Hmm.. internally should be able too. how do you connect internally ? > > > internal IP address ? any firewall in between ? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Bernard Cheah > > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:6EF76C38-6366-45BF-9794-D3C30F8CDA19@microsoft.com... > > > > I can connect to the FTP sites in both places (via the internet) but I > > > cannot > > > > connect Passive at home. I have to connect in active mode at mome (8 > port > > > > switch). > > > > > > > > I access them via the web not the command prompt. and I will try > ftp.exe > > > > > > > > Thanks Bernard > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > "Bernard" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Are you saying: > > > > > > > > > > wireless notebook via public network (internet) can connect to your > IIS > > > ftp > > > > > server > > > > > but > > > > > machines via internal network (8 port switch) can't connect to your > IIS > > > ftp > > > > > server > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > skip the passive mode first, can any of the internal client > > > > > uses ftp.exe to connect at command prompt ? > > > > > > > > > > is the ftp bind to both internal and public IP ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Bernard Cheah > > > > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > > > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:ECA5142B-3918-409F-9710-9A667337F027@microsoft.com... > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a network at home which uses a server 2003 machine and no > > > router. > > > > > > The server has 2 nics, one directly to the internet and the other > out > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > other machines via an 8 port switch. > > > > > > > > > > > > One is a notebook which also is used at my work via a wireless > card > > > > > > connected to a wireless router. > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem I am encountering is this. > > > > > > > > > > > > The wireless can access the FTP site on the home server in Passive > > > mode > > > > > and > > > > > > retrieve all files and upload too.I can also use passive via IE > and > > > all is > > > > > > fine.I mainly use Coffecup as a general client.This can also > connect > > > in > > > > > > passive mode. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, none of the machines inside the home can access the FTP > in > > > > > passive > > > > > > Including the notebook/laptop. > > > > > > Any Ideas please? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks much > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > but all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
And how do you know passive mode is not working ?
IE is not a decent ftp client, I would suggest you get a real ftp client app. -- Regards, Bernard Cheah http://www.tryiis.com/ http://support.microsoft.com/ http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ [quoted text, click to view] "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7420408A-D93F-479E-B4B6-2B7E13EFBE38@microsoft.com... > Yes, firewall in between. 21 avd 20 are open. > > I connect via the web my server has no internal IP. For example: > > Home laptop) open IE and type ftp://mydomain.com/folder > Work laptop) open IE and type ftp://mydomain.com/folder > > > > "Bernard" wrote: > > > Hmm.. internally should be able too. how do you connect internally ? > > internal IP address ? any firewall in between ? > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bernard Cheah > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:6EF76C38-6366-45BF-9794-D3C30F8CDA19@microsoft.com... > > > I can connect to the FTP sites in both places (via the internet) but I > > cannot > > > connect Passive at home. I have to connect in active mode at mome (8 port > > > switch). > > > > > > I access them via the web not the command prompt. and I will try ftp.exe > > > > > > Thanks Bernard > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > "Bernard" wrote: > > > > > > > Are you saying: > > > > > > > > wireless notebook via public network (internet) can connect to your IIS > > ftp > > > > server > > > > but > > > > machines via internal network (8 port switch) can't connect to your IIS > > ftp > > > > server > > > > > > > > > > > > skip the passive mode first, can any of the internal client > > > > uses ftp.exe to connect at command prompt ? > > > > > > > > is the ftp bind to both internal and public IP ? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > Bernard Cheah > > > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > news:ECA5142B-3918-409F-9710-9A667337F027@microsoft.com... > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > I have a network at home which uses a server 2003 machine and no > > router. > > > > > The server has 2 nics, one directly to the internet and the other out > > to > > > > the > > > > > other machines via an 8 port switch. > > > > > > > > > > One is a notebook which also is used at my work via a wireless card > > > > > connected to a wireless router. > > > > > > > > > > The problem I am encountering is this. > > > > > > > > > > The wireless can access the FTP site on the home server in Passive > > mode > > > > and > > > > > retrieve all files and upload too.I can also use passive via IE and > > all is > > > > > fine.I mainly use Coffecup as a general client.This can also connect > > in > > > > > passive mode. > > > > > > > > > > However, none of the machines inside the home can access the FTP in > > > > passive > > > > > Including the notebook/laptop. > > > > > Any Ideas please? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks much > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > but all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
I use Coffecup FTP client and in this client there is a checkbox to remove or
enable passive mode. So when I am at work it doesn't matter I can connect and see all the folders in either mode. But at home I cannot unless passive is unchecked in the FTP client. So this was my analisys If you would like a free version to have and use you can download it here ftp://slovaun.com/programs (user: submit password: yourfile) look for the program that says" CoffeeFree FTPInstaller.exe" this is Coffee cup free edition and there are others if you like you may have them too. It is a very nice little FTP client ************************************************************> uncheck 'enabled ftp folder view' ? 'use ftp passive' in IE ? ********************************************************** I did not change anything in IE. Do you want me to try this? Joe [quoted text, click to view] "Bernard" wrote:
> what is 'in my real client ' ??? what application is that ? > > and how do you remove passive mode in ftp client ? > > uncheck 'enabled ftp folder view' ? 'use ftp passive' in IE ? > > -- > Regards, > Bernard Cheah > http://www.tryiis.com/ > http://support.microsoft.com/ > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:B0D07B42-40A0-41FB-A69B-733C440F9420@microsoft.com... > > well when I try passive in my real client no folders are available and > when I > > remove the passive mode in my ftp client they show up and I can then > download > > my files. > > > > IF I am at work It will not make a difference passive or non passive. > > > > But this is only at home. I know this sounds wierd that is why I posted. > It > > baffled me as to why location mattered? > > > > thanks Bernard it just maybe something I have to deal with > > > > Joe > > "Bernard" wrote: > > > > > And how do you know passive mode is not working ? > > > IE is not a decent ftp client, I would suggest you get a real ftp client > > > app. > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Bernard Cheah > > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:7420408A-D93F-479E-B4B6-2B7E13EFBE38@microsoft.com... > > > > Yes, firewall in between. 21 avd 20 are open. > > > > > > > > I connect via the web my server has no internal IP. For example: > > > > > > > > Home laptop) open IE and type ftp://mydomain.com/folder > > > > Work laptop) open IE and type ftp://mydomain.com/folder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Bernard" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hmm.. internally should be able too. how do you connect internally ? > > > > > internal IP address ? any firewall in between ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Bernard Cheah > > > > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > > > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:6EF76C38-6366-45BF-9794-D3C30F8CDA19@microsoft.com... > > > > > > I can connect to the FTP sites in both places (via the internet) > but I > > > > > cannot > > > > > > connect Passive at home. I have to connect in active mode at mome > (8 > > > port > > > > > > switch). > > > > > > > > > > > > I access them via the web not the command prompt. and I will try > > > ftp.exe > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Bernard > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > "Bernard" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you saying: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wireless notebook via public network (internet) can connect to > your > > > IIS > > > > > ftp > > > > > > > server > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > machines via internal network (8 port switch) can't connect to > your > > > IIS > > > > > ftp > > > > > > > server > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > skip the passive mode first, can any of the internal client > > > > > > > uses ftp.exe to connect at command prompt ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is the ftp bind to both internal and public IP ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Bernard Cheah > > > > > > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > > > > > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:ECA5142B-3918-409F-9710-9A667337F027@microsoft.com... > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a network at home which uses a server 2003 machine and > no > > > > > router. > > > > > > > > The server has 2 nics, one directly to the internet and the > other > > > out > > > > > to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > other machines via an 8 port switch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One is a notebook which also is used at my work via a wireless > > > card > > > > > > > > connected to a wireless router. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem I am encountering is this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The wireless can access the FTP site on the home server in > Passive > > > > > mode > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > retrieve all files and upload too.I can also use passive via > IE > > > and > > > > > all is > > > > > > > > fine.I mainly use Coffecup as a general client.This can also > > > connect > > > > > in > > > > > > > > passive mode. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, none of the machines inside the home can access the > FTP > > > in > > > > > > > passive > > > > > > > > Including the notebook/laptop. > > > > > > > > Any Ideas please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks much > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
what is 'in my real client ' ??? what application is that ?
and how do you remove passive mode in ftp client ? uncheck 'enabled ftp folder view' ? 'use ftp passive' in IE ? -- Regards, Bernard Cheah http://www.tryiis.com/ http://support.microsoft.com/ http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ [quoted text, click to view] "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B0D07B42-40A0-41FB-A69B-733C440F9420@microsoft.com... > well when I try passive in my real client no folders are available and when I > remove the passive mode in my ftp client they show up and I can then download > my files. > > IF I am at work It will not make a difference passive or non passive. > > But this is only at home. I know this sounds wierd that is why I posted. It > baffled me as to why location mattered? > > thanks Bernard it just maybe something I have to deal with > > Joe > "Bernard" wrote: > > > And how do you know passive mode is not working ? > > IE is not a decent ftp client, I would suggest you get a real ftp client > > app. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bernard Cheah > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:7420408A-D93F-479E-B4B6-2B7E13EFBE38@microsoft.com... > > > Yes, firewall in between. 21 avd 20 are open. > > > > > > I connect via the web my server has no internal IP. For example: > > > > > > Home laptop) open IE and type ftp://mydomain.com/folder > > > Work laptop) open IE and type ftp://mydomain.com/folder > > > > > > > > > > > > "Bernard" wrote: > > > > > > > Hmm.. internally should be able too. how do you connect internally ? > > > > internal IP address ? any firewall in between ? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > Bernard Cheah > > > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > news:6EF76C38-6366-45BF-9794-D3C30F8CDA19@microsoft.com... > > > > > I can connect to the FTP sites in both places (via the internet) but I > > > > cannot > > > > > connect Passive at home. I have to connect in active mode at mome (8 > > port > > > > > switch). > > > > > > > > > > I access them via the web not the command prompt. and I will try > > ftp.exe > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Bernard > > > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > "Bernard" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Are you saying: > > > > > > > > > > > > wireless notebook via public network (internet) can connect to your > > IIS > > > > ftp > > > > > > server > > > > > > but > > > > > > machines via internal network (8 port switch) can't connect to your > > IIS > > > > ftp > > > > > > server > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > skip the passive mode first, can any of the internal client > > > > > > uses ftp.exe to connect at command prompt ? > > > > > > > > > > > > is the ftp bind to both internal and public IP ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Bernard Cheah > > > > > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > > > > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:ECA5142B-3918-409F-9710-9A667337F027@microsoft.com... > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a network at home which uses a server 2003 machine and no > > > > router. > > > > > > > The server has 2 nics, one directly to the internet and the other > > out > > > > to > > > > > > the > > > > > > > other machines via an 8 port switch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One is a notebook which also is used at my work via a wireless > > card > > > > > > > connected to a wireless router. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem I am encountering is this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The wireless can access the FTP site on the home server in Passive > > > > mode > > > > > > and > > > > > > > retrieve all files and upload too.I can also use passive via IE > > and > > > > all is > > > > > > > fine.I mainly use Coffecup as a general client.This can also > > connect > > > > in > > > > > > > passive mode. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, none of the machines inside the home can access the FTP > > in > > > > > > passive > > > > > > > Including the notebook/laptop. > > > > > > > Any Ideas please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks much > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Were you able to get into the FTP site?
I am not sure either about inside my network.I thought it was my ISP but I went to another location on the same ISP network and all is fine, no matter what mode I use? flippin wierd! I am familiar with the 426 error. So I will look again. It is not that big a deal as long as I can get to the site. Thanks Bernard Joe [quoted text, click to view] "Bernard" wrote:
> Err. now - when passive mode is not working, you will get 426 or related > errors at client side. So typical ftp client software will have a log when > trying to access to the server. if there's problem you will see it. if not > then it's fine. > > if you can connect without problem, then you should be able to see all > folders. Passive mode is type of connection in FTP protocol, so it's either > working or not working, I still have yet to think of why active mode can see > folders, but not passive mode when you connecting from internal. > > so i'm not sure where to proceed beside looking at both client and ftp log > file. > > -- > Regards, > Bernard Cheah > http://www.tryiis.com/ > http://support.microsoft.com/ > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:472A484B-8260-45A3-8DFC-A239303F2EAB@microsoft.com... > > I use Coffecup FTP client and in this client there is a checkbox to remove > or > > enable passive mode. So when I am at work it doesn't matter I can connect > and > > see all the folders in either mode. But at home I cannot unless passive is > > unchecked in the FTP client. So this was my analisys > > > > If you would like a free version to have and use you can download it here > > ftp://slovaun.com/programs (user: submit password: yourfile) look > for > > the program that says" CoffeeFree FTPInstaller.exe" this is Coffee cup > free > > edition and there are others if you like you may have them too. It is a > very > > nice little FTP client > > ************************************************************> uncheck > > 'enabled ftp folder view' ? 'use ftp passive' in IE ? > > ********************************************************** > > I did not change anything in IE. Do you want me to try this? > > > > Joe > > "Bernard" wrote: > > > > > what is 'in my real client ' ??? what application is that ? > > > > > > and how do you remove passive mode in ftp client ? > > > > > > uncheck 'enabled ftp folder view' ? 'use ftp passive' in IE ? > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Bernard Cheah > > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:B0D07B42-40A0-41FB-A69B-733C440F9420@microsoft.com... > > > > well when I try passive in my real client no folders are available and > > > when I > > > > remove the passive mode in my ftp client they show up and I can then > > > download > > > > my files. > > > > > > > > IF I am at work It will not make a difference passive or non passive. > > > > > > > > But this is only at home. I know this sounds wierd that is why I > posted. > > > It > > > > baffled me as to why location mattered? > > > > > > > > thanks Bernard it just maybe something I have to deal with > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > "Bernard" wrote: > > > > > > > > > And how do you know passive mode is not working ? > > > > > IE is not a decent ftp client, I would suggest you get a real ftp > client > > > > > app. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Bernard Cheah > > > > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > > > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:7420408A-D93F-479E-B4B6-2B7E13EFBE38@microsoft.com... > > > > > > Yes, firewall in between. 21 avd 20 are open. > > > > > > > > > > > > I connect via the web my server has no internal IP. For example: > > > > > > > > > > > > Home laptop) open IE and type ftp://mydomain.com/folder > > > > > > Work laptop) open IE and type ftp://mydomain.com/folder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Bernard" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm.. internally should be able too. how do you connect > internally ? > > > > > > > internal IP address ? any firewall in between ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Bernard Cheah > > > > > > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > > > > > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:6EF76C38-6366-45BF-9794-D3C30F8CDA19@microsoft.com... > > > > > > > > I can connect to the FTP sites in both places (via the > internet) > > > but I > > > > > > > cannot > > > > > > > > connect Passive at home. I have to connect in active mode at > mome > > > (8 > > > > > port > > > > > > > > switch). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I access them via the web not the command prompt. and I will > try > > > > > ftp.exe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Bernard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Bernard" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you saying: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wireless notebook via public network (internet) can connect > to > > > your > > > > > IIS > > > > > > > ftp > > > > > > > > > server > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > machines via internal network (8 port switch) can't connect > to > > > your > > > > > IIS > > > > > > > ftp > > > > > > > > > server > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > skip the passive mode first, can any of the internal client > > > > > > > > > uses ftp.exe to connect at command prompt ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is the ftp bind to both internal and public IP ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Bernard Cheah > > > > > > > > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > > > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > > > > > > > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:ECA5142B-3918-409F-9710-9A667337F027@microsoft.com... > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a network at home which uses a server 2003 machine > and > > > no > > > > > > > router. > > > > > > > > > > The server has 2 nics, one directly to the internet and > the > > > other > > > > > out > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > other machines via an 8 port switch. > > > > > > > > > >
Err. now - when passive mode is not working, you will get 426 or related
errors at client side. So typical ftp client software will have a log when trying to access to the server. if there's problem you will see it. if not then it's fine. if you can connect without problem, then you should be able to see all folders. Passive mode is type of connection in FTP protocol, so it's either working or not working, I still have yet to think of why active mode can see folders, but not passive mode when you connecting from internal. so i'm not sure where to proceed beside looking at both client and ftp log file. -- Regards, Bernard Cheah http://www.tryiis.com/ http://support.microsoft.com/ http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ [quoted text, click to view] "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:472A484B-8260-45A3-8DFC-A239303F2EAB@microsoft.com... > I use Coffecup FTP client and in this client there is a checkbox to remove or > enable passive mode. So when I am at work it doesn't matter I can connect and > see all the folders in either mode. But at home I cannot unless passive is > unchecked in the FTP client. So this was my analisys > > If you would like a free version to have and use you can download it here > ftp://slovaun.com/programs (user: submit password: yourfile) look for > the program that says" CoffeeFree FTPInstaller.exe" this is Coffee cup free > edition and there are others if you like you may have them too. It is a very > nice little FTP client > ************************************************************> uncheck > 'enabled ftp folder view' ? 'use ftp passive' in IE ? > ********************************************************** > I did not change anything in IE. Do you want me to try this? > > Joe > "Bernard" wrote: > > > what is 'in my real client ' ??? what application is that ? > > > > and how do you remove passive mode in ftp client ? > > > > uncheck 'enabled ftp folder view' ? 'use ftp passive' in IE ? > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bernard Cheah > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:B0D07B42-40A0-41FB-A69B-733C440F9420@microsoft.com... > > > well when I try passive in my real client no folders are available and > > when I > > > remove the passive mode in my ftp client they show up and I can then > > download > > > my files. > > > > > > IF I am at work It will not make a difference passive or non passive. > > > > > > But this is only at home. I know this sounds wierd that is why I posted. > > It > > > baffled me as to why location mattered? > > > > > > thanks Bernard it just maybe something I have to deal with > > > > > > Joe > > > "Bernard" wrote: > > > > > > > And how do you know passive mode is not working ? > > > > IE is not a decent ftp client, I would suggest you get a real ftp client > > > > app. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > Bernard Cheah > > > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > news:7420408A-D93F-479E-B4B6-2B7E13EFBE38@microsoft.com... > > > > > Yes, firewall in between. 21 avd 20 are open. > > > > > > > > > > I connect via the web my server has no internal IP. For example: > > > > > > > > > > Home laptop) open IE and type ftp://mydomain.com/folder > > > > > Work laptop) open IE and type ftp://mydomain.com/folder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Bernard" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm.. internally should be able too. how do you connect internally ? > > > > > > internal IP address ? any firewall in between ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Bernard Cheah > > > > > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > > > > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:6EF76C38-6366-45BF-9794-D3C30F8CDA19@microsoft.com... > > > > > > > I can connect to the FTP sites in both places (via the internet) > > but I > > > > > > cannot > > > > > > > connect Passive at home. I have to connect in active mode at mome > > (8 > > > > port > > > > > > > switch). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I access them via the web not the command prompt. and I will try > > > > ftp.exe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Bernard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Bernard" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you saying: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wireless notebook via public network (internet) can connect to > > your > > > > IIS > > > > > > ftp > > > > > > > > server > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > machines via internal network (8 port switch) can't connect to > > your > > > > IIS > > > > > > ftp > > > > > > > > server > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > skip the passive mode first, can any of the internal client > > > > > > > > uses ftp.exe to connect at command prompt ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is the ftp bind to both internal and public IP ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Bernard Cheah > > > > > > > > http://www.tryiis.com/ > > > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > > > > > > > http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joe" <Joe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:ECA5142B-3918-409F-9710-9A667337F027@microsoft.com... > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a network at home which uses a server 2003 machine and > > no > > > > > > router. > > > > > > > > > The server has 2 nics, one directly to the internet and the > > other > > > > out > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > other machines via an 8 port switch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One is a notebook which also is used at my work via a wireless > > > > card > > > > > > > > > connected to a wireless router. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem I am encountering is this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The wireless can access the FTP site on the home server in > > Passive > > > > > > mode > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > retrieve all files and upload too.I can also use passive via > > IE > > > > and > > > > > > all is > > > > > > > > > fine.I mainly use Coffecup as a general client.This can also > > > > connect > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > passive mode. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, none of the machines inside the home can access the > > FTP > > > > in > > > > > > > > passive > > > > > > > > > Including the notebook/laptop.
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