all groups > iis security > july 2003 >
You're in the

iis security

group:

MSPOP-UP MESSAGE SERVICE <KILLER POP-UPS>


MSPOP-UP MESSAGE SERVICE <KILLER POP-UPS> Moses and Elija
7/30/2003 2:16:33 AM
iis security:
*******GREETINGS**************
We are writing to tell you about the problems of "Abuse"
with their Message Service> I didn't mind before or when
I first started recieve these messages because I didn't
know what it was. I didn't know what popup message was..
but gave me message of: Your computer is in danger and
you are unsecure user and some of them say this message:
"IF YOU ARE RECIEVE THIS MESSGE, THEN YORU COMPUTER IS
LEAKING OUT YOUR IP ADDRESS AND OTHER INFORMATION ABOUT
YOU ON THE INTERNET THROUGH YOUR ITBERNET ACCOUNT.

***NOW THIS IS WHAT I NEED HELP IN**************
"How do I stop getting this message services in order to
have some peace? For they are killing me slowly with
these types of services I do not want for it has gotten
to where it is making me ill. I am a person who is
already sick or lame and I cannot take anymore attacks of
these REAL KILLER MESSAGE because it is every second or
every other second, now this could lead to distress and
Re: MSPOP-UP MESSAGE SERVICE <KILLER POP-UPS> Kathy
7/30/2003 10:18:33 AM
[quoted text, click to view]

I disabled mine.
http://www.theeldergeek.com/messenger_service_popups.htm

Re: MSPOP-UP MESSAGE SERVICE <KILLER POP-UPS> Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]
7/30/2003 11:43:50 AM
You need a firewall. The messages themselves aren't harmful but they should
be considered a warning. There are many free firewalls on the market, which
include ZoneAlaram ( www.zonealarm.com ) and Sygate ( www.sygate.com )

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.imbored.biz - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site :-)
Only reply by newsgroup. If I see an email I didn't ask for, it will be
deleted without reading.


[quoted text, click to view]

Re: MSPOP-UP MESSAGE SERVICE <KILLER POP-UPS> Kathy
7/30/2003 11:56:18 AM
[quoted text, click to view]

I'm running IIS. I was under the impression that if a person was running
IIS, the security was so robust that a firewall was redundant.

Most firewalls don't automatically block messenger service popups, and not
everyone knows how to configure their firewall so as to block NetBIOS ports
135, 137, 138. and 139.

- Kathy

Re: MSPOP-UP MESSAGE SERVICE <KILLER POP-UPS> Apalled
7/30/2003 1:06:19 PM
It's people like you with your lack of knowledge and
ignorance who cause the problems on the internet. Learn
how to use it or pull the plug.


[quoted text, click to view]
Re: MSPOP-UP MESSAGE SERVICE <KILLER POP-UPS> Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]
7/30/2003 2:42:11 PM
That's just hiding the messages, not the security breach. Install a
firewall, for your own sake

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.imbored.biz - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site :-)
Only reply by newsgroup. If I see an email I didn't ask for, it will be
deleted without reading.


[quoted text, click to view]

Re: MSPOP-UP MESSAGE SERVICE <KILLER POP-UPS> Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]
7/30/2003 3:08:46 PM
There is more to the computer than IIS. And for the record, most do block
NetBIOS traffic by default, or at least filter it.

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.imbored.biz - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site :-)
Only reply by newsgroup. If I see an email I didn't ask for, it will be
deleted without reading.


[quoted text, click to view]

Re: MSPOP-UP MESSAGE SERVICE <KILLER POP-UPS> Tom Pepper Willett
7/30/2003 5:20:00 PM
Jonathan:

How many computers do you have at the house? I've only got one, so I just
installed it on the one.

But, if I need more patches, I get them in my mvp mail account daily!

But, I do have 6 telephones! ;-)

--
-----
Tom Pepper Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
----
[quoted text, click to view]

Re: MSPOP-UP MESSAGE SERVICE <KILLER POP-UPS> Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]
7/30/2003 6:00:17 PM
Kathy:

You've got a good sense of humor but a bad way of using it. Try making it
obvious that you're joking with us so it won't be taken so.....literally ;-)

BTW - I installed that patch on every computer in my house, glad to know I'm
up to date <g>

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.imbored.biz - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site :-)
Only reply by newsgroup. If I see an email I didn't ask for, it will be
deleted without reading.


[quoted text, click to view]

Re: MSPOP-UP MESSAGE SERVICE <KILLER POP-UPS> Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]
7/30/2003 8:35:58 PM
Don't go unplugging any cables, you're no source of problems on the
internet.

Unfortunately, I can't think of anything with your ASP.NET problems (except
maybe some NTFS permissions).

Oh, and by the way - Some people (the messenger service ones) come and post
to this group because it has ".security" in it. Some have never even used
IIS and/or ASP

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.imbored.biz - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site :-)
Only reply by newsgroup. If I see an email I didn't ask for, it will be
deleted without reading.


[quoted text, click to view]

Re: MSPOP-UP MESSAGE SERVICE <KILLER POP-UPS> Kathy
7/30/2003 8:38:34 PM
[quoted text, click to view]

I'm truly sorry, I didn't realize I was causing all those problems on the
internet.

But I think I fixed all my problems this morning when I installed that
Microsoft patch that came in my email, so now I'm good to go.

- Kathy

Re: MSPOP-UP MESSAGE SERVICE <KILLER POP-UPS> Kathy
7/30/2003 11:40:45 PM
[quoted text, click to view]
;-)

I'll try to be less sarcastic. I guess it was the suggestion that I get a
firewall that got me started, kind of like suggesting to me that I not hit
myself in the head with a hammer or that I look both ways before crossing
the street or that I not run with scissors.

I guess I assumed (incorrectly, perhaps) that people posting questions in an
IIS security ng were perhaps administrating web servers and/or writing asp
applications and were past the "you should be using a firewall" state.

Now, I'd be delighted if one of you could help me with my "real" problem--
the recent appearance of 2 authentication dialogs when trying to open ASPX
pages on my client's website. ASP pages only see the first authentication
dialog. It obviously has something to do with using basic authentication in
a web application that uses ASP pages _and_ .NET, but I don't have any idea
where to begin on that one.

Or maybe someone knows of a more appropriate ng for my question? I posted
also on microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.security, and although
nobody there has accused my ignorance and severe lack of knowledge of being
the major source of problems on the internet, neither has anyone answered my
question.

I have googled, and looked in MSDN, either I am suffering from that severe
lack of knowledge I was accused of, or I don't know how to ask the question,
or I really _am_ the cause of all the problems on the internet and I ought
to unplug my network cable.

(sigh)

- Kathy

[quoted text, click to view]


Re: MSPOP-UP MESSAGE SERVICE <KILLER POP-UPS> David Wang [Msft]
7/31/2003 8:20:00 PM
Basic authentication is pretty straight forward. If the server requests
Basic authentication and the request has the magic Authorization: Basic
header, it's allowed access (after the ACL checks out). Else, it's denied
access.

Presence of the authentication dialog mainly indicates that the browser
received a 401 response and after a couple of authentication attempts (this
is configurable in IE), it failed to auto-negotiate credentials for you.
The particular type of 401 (IIS has five predefined types) determines what
you should do to address the situation.

Based on what I've said, there are several ways to troubleshoot this:
1. Make sure the client is auto-negotiating credentials for you (since most
users expect this). IE turns off auto-negotiating for Internet sites, and
all this is Configurable, so you need to see what you've got configured.
2. If you get 401.1, it means logon failed. If you hit cancel on the dialog
boxes, you get Access Denied. Check your domain/username/password.
3. If you get 401.3, it means you logged on correctly, but your credentials
didn't have access. Check your ACLs on the resource
4. If you get 401.4, some ISAPI filter installed on the server rejected you
access for arbitrary reason
5. If you get 401.5, the application itself denied you access. Check your
ACLs on the resource and on the Application DLL/Script.

On IIS6, the sub status codes are logged. They are not logged on prior IIS
versions, so you'll need to access the 401 responses to see what it is (use
a network sniffer).

--
//David
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
//
[quoted text, click to view]
;-)

I'll try to be less sarcastic. I guess it was the suggestion that I get a
firewall that got me started, kind of like suggesting to me that I not hit
myself in the head with a hammer or that I look both ways before crossing
the street or that I not run with scissors.

I guess I assumed (incorrectly, perhaps) that people posting questions in an
IIS security ng were perhaps administrating web servers and/or writing asp
applications and were past the "you should be using a firewall" state.

Now, I'd be delighted if one of you could help me with my "real" problem--
the recent appearance of 2 authentication dialogs when trying to open ASPX
pages on my client's website. ASP pages only see the first authentication
dialog. It obviously has something to do with using basic authentication in
a web application that uses ASP pages _and_ .NET, but I don't have any idea
where to begin on that one.

Or maybe someone knows of a more appropriate ng for my question? I posted
also on microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.security, and although
nobody there has accused my ignorance and severe lack of knowledge of being
the major source of problems on the internet, neither has anyone answered my
question.

I have googled, and looked in MSDN, either I am suffering from that severe
lack of knowledge I was accused of, or I don't know how to ask the question,
or I really _am_ the cause of all the problems on the internet and I ought
to unplug my network cable.

(sigh)

- Kathy

[quoted text, click to view]



Re: MSPOP-UP MESSAGE SERVICE <KILLER POP-UPS> Kathy
8/1/2003 4:20:44 AM
[quoted text, click to view]

Thanks for the information on all the error codes, that will come in handy.

I actually figured out what the problem was a couple of hours ago. The
message was coming up for a form recently added to the project by someone
else. They used some third-party data access components in the form, and
those components had their own configuration settings. I used ISM to set
basic access for the entire web application, and we turned off
authentication for .NET in web.config. I wasn't aware of the third
configuration file for the controls, that file was set to use integrated
Windows authentication. When I disabled that, everything worked as it was
supposed to.

Thanks,

Kathy

AddThis Social Bookmark Button