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iis security : New Install/New problems with CRLs...
I installed a set of machines: - MachineA: Windows Server 2003 configured as domain controller, with Active Directory and IIS installed - MachineB: Windows Server 2003 - not on the MachineA domain, but on a workgroup (MISNET), and with Certificate Server (and IIS) installed. Certificate Server is configured as a Standalone CA. - MachineC: Windows 2000 Pro - this is my client machine Using Certificate Server on MachineB, I've been able to create/issue server and client certificates, which I've installed on MachineA and MachineC, respectively, and I have client authentication working, BUT.... No matter what I've done so far, I cannot get the CRL/revocation working at all. I've revoked a test client certificate on the Certificate Server on MachineB, and published the CRL, but the client cert still seems to be working. I've rebooted MachineA, start/stopped IIS, etc., and still the client cert works. I've confirmed that I can access the .CRL file from MachineA, so I am completely puzzled. Does anyone have any suggestions???? Thanks,
Bernard,
Yes, I know :), thanks for your patience :)! Part of what I'm doing, as part of a work project, and partly for my own edification, has been testing how all of this (mainly SSL/client authentication) works with various configurations of IIS, Active Directory, and Certificate Server. When I started all of this, I thought that things would pretty well work the same with the various configurations, but it really hasn't turned out that way, and thus all my questions. Each time I build a new configuration, it seems like especially the way that CRL checking is handled, is just a little different. This seems (to me) particularly true when Active Directory is involved. When Active Directory is NOT involved (e.g., IIS on a non-domain machine and Cert Server as a Standalone CA on a non-domain machine), controlling the CRL via the Intermediate Certification Authority (ICA) on the IIS machine seems to be reliable. Believe me, I've read the articles that you pointed to (among many others), and in the current configuration (with IIS and AD on one machine, and with Cert Server on another, non-domain machine), I cannot seem to get CRL checking working at all. This all seems to be pointing towards some involvement by AD, so I've posted to the AD newsgroup, but haven't gotten any applicable feedback yet. Jim [quoted text, click to view] Bernard wrote:
> > Man ! you have tons of Cert questions :) > > This one help ? > Web Site Accepts Revoked Certificates > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=258727 > > and > Certificate Revocation Lists (CRL) and IIS 5.0: Common Questions > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=289749 > > -- > Regards, > Bernard Cheah > http://support.microsoft.com/ > Please respond to newsgroups only ... > > "Ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F6CEB0D.A98951D6@cox.net... > > Hi, > > > > I installed a set of machines: > > > > - MachineA: Windows Server 2003 configured as domain controller, with > > Active Directory and IIS installed > > > > - MachineB: Windows Server 2003 - not on the MachineA domain, but on a > > workgroup (MISNET), and with Certificate Server (and IIS) installed. > > Certificate Server is configured as a Standalone CA. > > > > - MachineC: Windows 2000 Pro - this is my client machine > > > > > > > > Using Certificate Server on MachineB, I've been able to create/issue > > server and client certificates, which I've installed on MachineA and > > MachineC, respectively, and I have client authentication working, > > > > BUT.... > > > > No matter what I've done so far, I cannot get the CRL/revocation working > > at all. > > > > I've revoked a test client certificate on the Certificate Server on > > MachineB, and published the CRL, but the client cert still seems to be > > working. > > > > I've rebooted MachineA, start/stopped IIS, etc., and still the client > > cert works. > > > > I've confirmed that I can access the .CRL file from MachineA, so I am > > completely puzzled. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions???? > > > > Thanks,
Man ! you have tons of Cert questions :)
This one help ? Web Site Accepts Revoked Certificates http://support.microsoft.com/?id=258727 and Certificate Revocation Lists (CRL) and IIS 5.0: Common Questions http://support.microsoft.com/?id=289749 -- Regards, Bernard Cheah http://support.microsoft.com/ Please respond to newsgroups only ... [quoted text, click to view] "Ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F6CEB0D.A98951D6@cox.net... > Hi, > > I installed a set of machines: > > - MachineA: Windows Server 2003 configured as domain controller, with > Active Directory and IIS installed > > - MachineB: Windows Server 2003 - not on the MachineA domain, but on a > workgroup (MISNET), and with Certificate Server (and IIS) installed. > Certificate Server is configured as a Standalone CA. > > - MachineC: Windows 2000 Pro - this is my client machine > > > > Using Certificate Server on MachineB, I've been able to create/issue > server and client certificates, which I've installed on MachineA and > MachineC, respectively, and I have client authentication working, > > BUT.... > > No matter what I've done so far, I cannot get the CRL/revocation working > at all. > > I've revoked a test client certificate on the Certificate Server on > MachineB, and published the CRL, but the client cert still seems to be > working. > > I've rebooted MachineA, start/stopped IIS, etc., and still the client > cert works. > > I've confirmed that I can access the .CRL file from MachineA, so I am > completely puzzled. > > Does anyone have any suggestions???? > > Thanks, > Jim
Mm.. It's quite messy using for AD Cert.
I generally only apply SSL cert with IIS, no AD involved. update us if you have more detail. -- Regards, Bernard Cheah http://support.microsoft.com/ Please respond to newsgroups only ... [quoted text, click to view] "Ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F6ECC26.4FE20497@cox.net... > Bernard, > > Yes, I know :), thanks for your patience :)! > > Part of what I'm doing, as part of a work project, and partly for my own > edification, has been testing how all of this (mainly SSL/client > authentication) works with various configurations of IIS, Active > Directory, and Certificate Server. > > When I started all of this, I thought that things would pretty well work > the same with the various configurations, but it really hasn't turned > out that way, and thus all my questions. > > Each time I build a new configuration, it seems like especially the way > that CRL checking is handled, is just a little different. This seems > (to me) particularly true when Active Directory is involved. > > When Active Directory is NOT involved (e.g., IIS on a non-domain machine > and Cert Server as a Standalone CA on a non-domain machine), controlling > the CRL via the Intermediate Certification Authority (ICA) on the IIS > machine seems to be reliable. > > Believe me, I've read the articles that you pointed to (among many > others), and in the current configuration (with IIS and AD on one > machine, and with Cert Server on another, non-domain machine), I cannot > seem to get CRL checking working at all. > > This all seems to be pointing towards some involvement by AD, so I've > posted to the AD newsgroup, but haven't gotten any applicable feedback > yet. > > Jim > > > > Bernard wrote: > > > > Man ! you have tons of Cert questions :) > > > > This one help ? > > Web Site Accepts Revoked Certificates > > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=258727 > > > > and > > Certificate Revocation Lists (CRL) and IIS 5.0: Common Questions > > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=289749 > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bernard Cheah > > http://support.microsoft.com/ > > Please respond to newsgroups only ... > > > > "Ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F6CEB0D.A98951D6@cox.net... > > > Hi, > > > > > > I installed a set of machines: > > > > > > - MachineA: Windows Server 2003 configured as domain controller, with > > > Active Directory and IIS installed > > > > > > - MachineB: Windows Server 2003 - not on the MachineA domain, but on a > > > workgroup (MISNET), and with Certificate Server (and IIS) installed. > > > Certificate Server is configured as a Standalone CA. > > > > > > - MachineC: Windows 2000 Pro - this is my client machine > > > > > > > > > > > > Using Certificate Server on MachineB, I've been able to create/issue > > > server and client certificates, which I've installed on MachineA and > > > MachineC, respectively, and I have client authentication working, > > > > > > BUT.... > > > > > > No matter what I've done so far, I cannot get the CRL/revocation working > > > at all. > > > > > > I've revoked a test client certificate on the Certificate Server on > > > MachineB, and published the CRL, but the client cert still seems to be > > > working. > > > > > > I've rebooted MachineA, start/stopped IIS, etc., and still the client > > > cert works. > > > > > > I've confirmed that I can access the .CRL file from MachineA, so I am > > > completely puzzled. > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions???? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Jim
If you can get me:
1. Configuration of systems involved (sufficiently detailed) 2. What you cannot do I can get it to the IIS product team members who would probably be able to help you (or figure out what's going on). These guys will know what's going on, so you want to be sufficiently detailed, lest they start interrogating you. ;-) -- //David IIS This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. // [quoted text, click to view] "Ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F6ECC26.4FE20497@cox.net... Bernard, Yes, I know :), thanks for your patience :)! Part of what I'm doing, as part of a work project, and partly for my own edification, has been testing how all of this (mainly SSL/client authentication) works with various configurations of IIS, Active Directory, and Certificate Server. When I started all of this, I thought that things would pretty well work the same with the various configurations, but it really hasn't turned out that way, and thus all my questions. Each time I build a new configuration, it seems like especially the way that CRL checking is handled, is just a little different. This seems (to me) particularly true when Active Directory is involved. When Active Directory is NOT involved (e.g., IIS on a non-domain machine and Cert Server as a Standalone CA on a non-domain machine), controlling the CRL via the Intermediate Certification Authority (ICA) on the IIS machine seems to be reliable. Believe me, I've read the articles that you pointed to (among many others), and in the current configuration (with IIS and AD on one machine, and with Cert Server on another, non-domain machine), I cannot seem to get CRL checking working at all. This all seems to be pointing towards some involvement by AD, so I've posted to the AD newsgroup, but haven't gotten any applicable feedback yet. Jim [quoted text, click to view] Bernard wrote: > > Man ! you have tons of Cert questions :) > > This one help ? > Web Site Accepts Revoked Certificates > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=258727 > > and > Certificate Revocation Lists (CRL) and IIS 5.0: Common Questions > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=289749 > > -- > Regards, > Bernard Cheah > http://support.microsoft.com/ > Please respond to newsgroups only ... > > "Ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F6CEB0D.A98951D6@cox.net... > > Hi, > > > > I installed a set of machines: > > > > - MachineA: Windows Server 2003 configured as domain controller, with > > Active Directory and IIS installed > > > > - MachineB: Windows Server 2003 - not on the MachineA domain, but on a > > workgroup (MISNET), and with Certificate Server (and IIS) installed. > > Certificate Server is configured as a Standalone CA. > > > > - MachineC: Windows 2000 Pro - this is my client machine > > > > > > > > Using Certificate Server on MachineB, I've been able to create/issue > > server and client certificates, which I've installed on MachineA and > > MachineC, respectively, and I have client authentication working, > > > > BUT.... > > > > No matter what I've done so far, I cannot get the CRL/revocation working > > at all. > > > > I've revoked a test client certificate on the Certificate Server on > > MachineB, and published the CRL, but the client cert still seems to be > > working. > > > > I've rebooted MachineA, start/stopped IIS, etc., and still the client > > cert works. > > > > I've confirmed that I can access the .CRL file from MachineA, so I am > > completely puzzled. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions???? > > > > Thanks, > > Jim
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