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Hi, I have spent hours doing research on this item and found many people with the same problem and no answers. I have an ASP web application that connects to MS SQL 2000. I was running it on Win2000 just fine, no problems whatsoever. We upgraded to Win2003 and now ASP pages take forever to load. This evidently is a BUG but there is no solutions posted anywhere, I need to solve this before tomorrow morning, please PLEASE, if someone has solved this problem any help is really appreciated. Aleks
Not too much to elaborate, quite simply ASP pages are server slow. Whenever I try to reach an ASP page it takes up to 40 seconds to be displayed, this is totally unacceptable, where in win2000 takes 1-2 seconds. I will be switching back to win2000 unless I found a solution soon, and yes it has to be a bug of win2003. A [quoted text, click to view] "Jason Brown [MSFT]" <i-brjaso@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:%235j6mJS0EHA.1396@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > Well, it's not necessarily a bug, but I really couldn't say for sure since > you haven't included a lot of detail. Can you elaborate somewhat? > > > -- > Jason Brown > Microsoft GTSC, IIS > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > rights. > > "Aleks" <axiaxi2003@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:%23EUeZBR0EHA.2860@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> Hi, >> >> I have spent hours doing research on this item and found many people with >> the same problem and no answers. >> >> I have an ASP web application that connects to MS SQL 2000. I was running >> it >> on Win2000 just fine, no problems whatsoever. We upgraded to Win2003 and >> now >> ASP pages take forever to load. >> >> This evidently is a BUG but there is no solutions posted anywhere, I need >> to >> solve this before tomorrow morning, please PLEASE, if someone has solved >> this problem any help is really appreciated. >> >> Aleks >> >> > >
Its just the first page, then speeds up. If you become idle like for a minute and start navigating again the response is again slow. I am surprised there are no solutions yet, this looks like a known issue many people are having, still the responses are very vage. I checked IIS and the rest of the sites work fine (HTML) and MS SQL is in perfect condition. It is only ASP pages when they are first load, could take up to 40 seconds to load, totally unacceptable. Its not the site because it runs fine in IIS5. I am using the same application pool as the rest of the websites, only ASP pages are afected, no matter the code of the ASP page. My server is exactly the same, same network connections, same everything else, just win2k was upgraded to win2003. A [quoted text, click to view] "Jeff Cochran" <jeff.nospam@zina.com> wrote in message news:41ab270b.2131935781@msnews.microsoft.com... > On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:56:02 -0500, "Aleks" <axiaxi2003@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >>I have spent hours doing research on this item and found many people with >>the same problem and no answers. >> >>I have an ASP web application that connects to MS SQL 2000. I was running >>it >>on Win2000 just fine, no problems whatsoever. We upgraded to Win2003 and >>now >>ASP pages take forever to load. > > All ASP pages or just those connecting to SQL? Have you tested a > Hello World page? First and subsequent requests? > >>This evidently is a BUG but there is no solutions posted anywhere, I need >>to >>solve this before tomorrow morning, please PLEASE, if someone has solved >>this problem any help is really appreciated. > > First, it's not a bug. There are many changes to the IIS6 model as > well as additional settings you may have issues with. In addition, > you have a new operating system, server, network connections and many > other things that can be different. > > But until you test your code rationally, or at least provide enough > details on server configuration, code samples, etc, there's no way > you'll get this tracked down. > > Jeff
By the way, this happens right away, not 20 or 60 minutes after the session has begun A [quoted text, click to view] "Ken Schaefer" <kenREMOVE@THISadopenstatic.com> wrote in message news:%233Wv7gU0EHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > Is the Web Application Pool that the web app in configured to unload after > x minutes of inactivity? If so, then when you next hit a page inside that > application, an entire new worker process needs to be spun up, which takes > time. If you choose to disable this unloading, then IIS6 will work the > same way as IIS5 used to work in this respect. > > Again, as Jason say, you haven't given us enough information about your > configuration. I would be very hesitant to say that this is a bug in IIS6 > given that crucial information about your configuration is missing. > > Cheers > Ken > > "Aleks" <axiaxi2003@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:OzzmglS0EHA.3808@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> Not too much to elaborate, quite simply ASP pages are server slow. >> Whenever I try to reach an ASP page it takes up to 40 seconds to be >> displayed, this is totally unacceptable, where in win2000 takes 1-2 >> seconds. >> >> I will be switching back to win2000 unless I found a solution soon, and >> yes it has to be a bug of win2003. >> >> A >> >> >> "Jason Brown [MSFT]" <i-brjaso@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:%235j6mJS0EHA.1396@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >>> Well, it's not necessarily a bug, but I really couldn't say for sure >>> since you haven't included a lot of detail. Can you elaborate somewhat? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jason Brown >>> Microsoft GTSC, IIS >>> >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >>> rights. >>> >>> "Aleks" <axiaxi2003@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23EUeZBR0EHA.2860@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have spent hours doing research on this item and found many people >>>> with >>>> the same problem and no answers. >>>> >>>> I have an ASP web application that connects to MS SQL 2000. I was >>>> running it >>>> on Win2000 just fine, no problems whatsoever. We upgraded to Win2003 >>>> and now >>>> ASP pages take forever to load. >>>> >>>> This evidently is a BUG but there is no solutions posted anywhere, I >>>> need to >>>> solve this before tomorrow morning, please PLEASE, if someone has >>>> solved >>>> this problem any help is really appreciated. >>>> >>>> Aleks >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:56:02 -0500, "Aleks" <axiaxi2003@hotmail.com> [quoted text, click to view] wrote: >I have spent hours doing research on this item and found many people with >the same problem and no answers. > >I have an ASP web application that connects to MS SQL 2000. I was running it >on Win2000 just fine, no problems whatsoever. We upgraded to Win2003 and now >ASP pages take forever to load.
All ASP pages or just those connecting to SQL? Have you tested a Hello World page? First and subsequent requests? [quoted text, click to view] >This evidently is a BUG but there is no solutions posted anywhere, I need to >solve this before tomorrow morning, please PLEASE, if someone has solved >this problem any help is really appreciated.
First, it's not a bug. There are many changes to the IIS6 model as well as additional settings you may have issues with. In addition, you have a new operating system, server, network connections and many other things that can be different. But until you test your code rationally, or at least provide enough details on server configuration, code samples, etc, there's no way you'll get this tracked down.
Well, it's not necessarily a bug, but I really couldn't say for sure since you haven't included a lot of detail. Can you elaborate somewhat? -- Jason Brown Microsoft GTSC, IIS This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. [quoted text, click to view] "Aleks" <axiaxi2003@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:%23EUeZBR0EHA.2860@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > Hi, > > I have spent hours doing research on this item and found many people with > the same problem and no answers. > > I have an ASP web application that connects to MS SQL 2000. I was running > it > on Win2000 just fine, no problems whatsoever. We upgraded to Win2003 and > now > ASP pages take forever to load. > > This evidently is a BUG but there is no solutions posted anywhere, I need > to > solve this before tomorrow morning, please PLEASE, if someone has solved > this problem any help is really appreciated. > > Aleks > >
Is the Web Application Pool that the web app in configured to unload after x minutes of inactivity? If so, then when you next hit a page inside that application, an entire new worker process needs to be spun up, which takes time. If you choose to disable this unloading, then IIS6 will work the same way as IIS5 used to work in this respect. Again, as Jason say, you haven't given us enough information about your configuration. I would be very hesitant to say that this is a bug in IIS6 given that crucial information about your configuration is missing. Cheers Ken [quoted text, click to view] "Aleks" <axiaxi2003@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OzzmglS0EHA.3808@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > Not too much to elaborate, quite simply ASP pages are server slow. > Whenever I try to reach an ASP page it takes up to 40 seconds to be > displayed, this is totally unacceptable, where in win2000 takes 1-2 > seconds. > > I will be switching back to win2000 unless I found a solution soon, and > yes it has to be a bug of win2003. > > A > > > "Jason Brown [MSFT]" <i-brjaso@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:%235j6mJS0EHA.1396@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> Well, it's not necessarily a bug, but I really couldn't say for sure >> since you haven't included a lot of detail. Can you elaborate somewhat? >> >> >> -- >> Jason Brown >> Microsoft GTSC, IIS >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >> rights. >> >> "Aleks" <axiaxi2003@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:%23EUeZBR0EHA.2860@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have spent hours doing research on this item and found many people >>> with >>> the same problem and no answers. >>> >>> I have an ASP web application that connects to MS SQL 2000. I was >>> running it >>> on Win2000 just fine, no problems whatsoever. We upgraded to Win2003 and >>> now >>> ASP pages take forever to load. >>> >>> This evidently is a BUG but there is no solutions posted anywhere, I >>> need to >>> solve this before tomorrow morning, please PLEASE, if someone has solved >>> this problem any help is really appreciated. >>> >>> Aleks >>> >>> >> >> > >
Can you please just answer the question? Thanks Cheers Ken [quoted text, click to view] "Aleks" <axiaxi2003@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OULI3eW0EHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > By the way, this happens right away, not 20 or 60 minutes after the > session has begun > > A > > > "Ken Schaefer" <kenREMOVE@THISadopenstatic.com> wrote in message > news:%233Wv7gU0EHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >> Is the Web Application Pool that the web app in configured to unload >> after x minutes of inactivity? If so, then when you next hit a page >> inside that application, an entire new worker process needs to be spun >> up, which takes time. If you choose to disable this unloading, then IIS6 >> will work the same way as IIS5 used to work in this respect. >> >> Again, as Jason say, you haven't given us enough information about your >> configuration. I would be very hesitant to say that this is a bug in IIS6 >> given that crucial information about your configuration is missing. >> >> Cheers >> Ken >> >> "Aleks" <axiaxi2003@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:OzzmglS0EHA.3808@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >>> Not too much to elaborate, quite simply ASP pages are server slow. >>> Whenever I try to reach an ASP page it takes up to 40 seconds to be >>> displayed, this is totally unacceptable, where in win2000 takes 1-2 >>> seconds. >>> >>> I will be switching back to win2000 unless I found a solution soon, and >>> yes it has to be a bug of win2003. >>> >>> A >>> >>> >>> "Jason Brown [MSFT]" <i-brjaso@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:%235j6mJS0EHA.1396@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >>>> Well, it's not necessarily a bug, but I really couldn't say for sure >>>> since you haven't included a lot of detail. Can you elaborate somewhat? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jason Brown >>>> Microsoft GTSC, IIS >>>> >>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >>>> rights. >>>> >>>> "Aleks" <axiaxi2003@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:%23EUeZBR0EHA.2860@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I have spent hours doing research on this item and found many people >>>>> with >>>>> the same problem and no answers. >>>>> >>>>> I have an ASP web application that connects to MS SQL 2000. I was >>>>> running it >>>>> on Win2000 just fine, no problems whatsoever. We upgraded to Win2003 >>>>> and now >>>>> ASP pages take forever to load. >>>>> >>>>> This evidently is a BUG but there is no solutions posted anywhere, I >>>>> need to >>>>> solve this before tomorrow morning, please PLEASE, if someone has >>>>> solved >>>>> this problem any help is really appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Aleks >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
This machine was upgraded from Windows 2000 to Windows 2003? Is IIS running IIS5 Isolation Mode? Or IIS6 Worker Process Mode? When you use the ASP-related performance counters, what types of things do you see? Cheers Ken [quoted text, click to view] "Aleks" <axiaxi2003@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:%23VWiXeW0EHA.2676@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > Its just the first page, then speeds up. If you become idle like for a > minute and start navigating again the response is again slow. > > I am surprised there are no solutions yet, this looks like a known issue > many people are having, still the responses are very vage. I checked IIS > and the rest of the sites work fine (HTML) and MS SQL is in perfect > condition. > > It is only ASP pages when they are first load, could take up to 40 seconds > to load, totally unacceptable. > Its not the site because it runs fine in IIS5. I am using the same > application pool as the rest of the websites, only ASP pages are afected, > no matter the code of the ASP page. > > My server is exactly the same, same network connections, same everything > else, just win2k was upgraded to win2003. > > > A > > > "Jeff Cochran" <jeff.nospam@zina.com> wrote in message > news:41ab270b.2131935781@msnews.microsoft.com... >> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:56:02 -0500, "Aleks" <axiaxi2003@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>I have spent hours doing research on this item and found many people with >>>the same problem and no answers. >>> >>>I have an ASP web application that connects to MS SQL 2000. I was running >>>it >>>on Win2000 just fine, no problems whatsoever. We upgraded to Win2003 and >>>now >>>ASP pages take forever to load. >> >> All ASP pages or just those connecting to SQL? Have you tested a >> Hello World page? First and subsequent requests? >> >>>This evidently is a BUG but there is no solutions posted anywhere, I need >>>to >>>solve this before tomorrow morning, please PLEASE, if someone has solved >>>this problem any help is really appreciated. >> >> First, it's not a bug. There are many changes to the IIS6 model as >> well as additional settings you may have issues with. In addition, >> you have a new operating system, server, network connections and many >> other things that can be different. >> >> But until you test your code rationally, or at least provide enough >> details on server configuration, code samples, etc, there's no way >> you'll get this tracked down. >> >> Jeff > >
Never mind I went back to win2K, now everything works fine. [quoted text, click to view] "Ken Schaefer" <kenREMOVE@THISadopenstatic.com> wrote in message news:u9N4jTf0EHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > This machine was upgraded from Windows 2000 to Windows 2003? > > Is IIS running IIS5 Isolation Mode? Or IIS6 Worker Process Mode? > > When you use the ASP-related performance counters, what types of things do > you see? > > Cheers > Ken > > "Aleks" <axiaxi2003@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:%23VWiXeW0EHA.2676@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> Its just the first page, then speeds up. If you become idle like for a >> minute and start navigating again the response is again slow. >> >> I am surprised there are no solutions yet, this looks like a known issue >> many people are having, still the responses are very vage. I checked IIS >> and the rest of the sites work fine (HTML) and MS SQL is in perfect >> condition. >> >> It is only ASP pages when they are first load, could take up to 40 >> seconds to load, totally unacceptable. >> Its not the site because it runs fine in IIS5. I am using the same >> application pool as the rest of the websites, only ASP pages are afected, >> no matter the code of the ASP page. >> >> My server is exactly the same, same network connections, same everything >> else, just win2k was upgraded to win2003. >> >> >> A >> >> >> "Jeff Cochran" <jeff.nospam@zina.com> wrote in message >> news:41ab270b.2131935781@msnews.microsoft.com... >>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:56:02 -0500, "Aleks" <axiaxi2003@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>I have spent hours doing research on this item and found many people >>>>with >>>>the same problem and no answers. >>>> >>>>I have an ASP web application that connects to MS SQL 2000. I was >>>>running it >>>>on Win2000 just fine, no problems whatsoever. We upgraded to Win2003 and >>>>now >>>>ASP pages take forever to load. >>> >>> All ASP pages or just those connecting to SQL? Have you tested a >>> Hello World page? First and subsequent requests? >>> >>>>This evidently is a BUG but there is no solutions posted anywhere, I >>>>need to >>>>solve this before tomorrow morning, please PLEASE, if someone has solved >>>>this problem any help is really appreciated. >>> >>> First, it's not a bug. There are many changes to the IIS6 model as >>> well as additional settings you may have issues with. In addition, >>> you have a new operating system, server, network connections and many >>> other things that can be different. >>> >>> But until you test your code rationally, or at least provide enough >>> details on server configuration, code samples, etc, there's no way >>> you'll get this tracked down. >>> >>> Jeff >> >> > >
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