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Windows 2003 server in DMZ for websites
I have a Windows SBS 2003 behind a PIX firewall with several clients behind the SBS. I want to place a Windows 2003 server in the DMZ to host a couple of external sites. I have enough static IPs to support the site. I am searching for a good resource to answer several questions related to managing the server in the DMZ: 1. Should the server in the DMZ be a stand alone server with no connection to the backend network, or should it be member server and dual NIC'd, one to the DMZ LAN and one on the backend network behind the SBS? I believe making it a stand-alone is the preffered design, but not sure how to control access. 2. How do I allow a remote user access to manage their site which I would like to build for them. I know it might be best to have a hosted service provided by others, but I happen to have the Windows 2003 server software, I have the server and I have the interest to find out the correct way to run an external website in a Windows SBS 2003 environment. What I am seeking answers to is what is best practice for security and protection of my internal SBS network, where an external site is required, and where the site will host content from customers who are not users within the SBS domain but need acces to their site for placing content, mananging that content, etc. If I make it a stand alone in the DMZ, how do I manage it as well for normal routing system administration tasks? Thanks!
Hi, having two cards in server, one lading to the internet through the firewall and one bypassing it into the LAN really destroys the point of having firewall in first place. If someone is able to hack your server in DMZ he has free access to LAN so there is no point in having DMZ. Servers and computers in DMZ should not have any direct access to LAN in any way (either by bypassing a firewall or by rules on the firewall)... Since there should be no communication between DMZ and LAN (in direction DMZ to LAN) servers in DMZ should be standalone servers. If you have them in domain, your firewall will have more holes in it then cheese. Regarding remote administration, you could allow e.g. Terminal Service Access only from LAN to DMZ and Administrators of the web site content could use Front Page for administration... I hope this helps you out at least a bit, Mike [quoted text, click to view] "bits on glass" <news@evanetllc.com> wrote in message news:bznDc.6187$4i6.2756@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com... >I have a Windows SBS 2003 behind a PIX firewall with several clients behind > the SBS. I want to place a Windows 2003 server in the DMZ to host a couple > of external sites. I have enough static IPs to support the site. I am > searching for a good resource to answer several questions related to > managing the server in the DMZ: > > 1. Should the server in the DMZ be a stand alone server with no connection > to the backend network, or should it be member server and dual NIC'd, one > to > the DMZ LAN and one on the backend network behind the SBS? I believe > making > it a stand-alone is the preffered design, but not sure how to control > access. > > 2. How do I allow a remote user access to manage their site which I would > like to build for them. > > I know it might be best to have a hosted service provided by others, but I > happen to have the Windows 2003 server software, I have the server and I > have the interest to find out the correct way to run an external website > in > a Windows SBS 2003 environment. > > What I am seeking answers to is what is best practice for security and > protection of my internal SBS network, where an external site is required, > and where the site will host content from customers who are not users > within > the SBS domain but need acces to their site for placing content, mananging > that content, etc. If I make it a stand alone in the DMZ, how do I manage > it > as well for normal routing system administration tasks? > > Thanks! > >
Mike, Thanks for confirming what I identified in my post where I indicated I thought making it a stand alone would be the preffered design where security is the focus. I just wanted to throw the question out there in the event there was some cool way to manage security at the server level in a dual NIC'd Windows server design allowing for easier administration. While I do my best to stay current with the Windows server environment is a bit new to me and I accept that there are many things I do not know so I better ask! :-) ~ bits [quoted text, click to view] "Miha Pihler" <mihap-news@atlantis.si> wrote in message news:elxiVPGXEHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > Hi, > > having two cards in server, one lading to the internet through the firewall > and one bypassing it into the LAN really destroys the point of having > firewall in first place. If someone is able to hack your server in DMZ he > has free access to LAN so there is no point in having DMZ. Servers and > computers in DMZ should not have any direct access to LAN in any way (either > by bypassing a firewall or by rules on the firewall)... > > Since there should be no communication between DMZ and LAN (in direction DMZ > to LAN) servers in DMZ should be standalone servers. If you have them in > domain, your firewall will have more holes in it then cheese. > > Regarding remote administration, you could allow e.g. Terminal Service > Access only from LAN to DMZ and Administrators of the web site content could > use Front Page for administration... > > I hope this helps you out at least a bit, > > Mike > > "bits on glass" <news@evanetllc.com> wrote in message > news:bznDc.6187$4i6.2756@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com... > >I have a Windows SBS 2003 behind a PIX firewall with several clients behind > > the SBS. I want to place a Windows 2003 server in the DMZ to host a couple > > of external sites. I have enough static IPs to support the site. I am > > searching for a good resource to answer several questions related to > > managing the server in the DMZ: > > > > 1. Should the server in the DMZ be a stand alone server with no connection > > to the backend network, or should it be member server and dual NIC'd, one > > to > > the DMZ LAN and one on the backend network behind the SBS? I believe > > making > > it a stand-alone is the preffered design, but not sure how to control > > access. > > > > 2. How do I allow a remote user access to manage their site which I would > > like to build for them. > > > > I know it might be best to have a hosted service provided by others, but I > > happen to have the Windows 2003 server software, I have the server and I > > have the interest to find out the correct way to run an external website > > in > > a Windows SBS 2003 environment. > > > > What I am seeking answers to is what is best practice for security and > > protection of my internal SBS network, where an external site is required, > > and where the site will host content from customers who are not users > > within > > the SBS domain but need acces to their site for placing content, mananging > > that content, etc. If I make it a stand alone in the DMZ, how do I manage > > it > > as well for normal routing system administration tasks? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > >
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 23:22:47 GMT, "bits on glass" <news@evanetllc.com> [quoted text, click to view] wrote: >I have a Windows SBS 2003 behind a PIX firewall with several clients behind >the SBS. I want to place a Windows 2003 server in the DMZ to host a couple >of external sites. I have enough static IPs to support the site. I am >searching for a good resource to answer several questions related to >managing the server in the DMZ: > >1. Should the server in the DMZ be a stand alone server with no connection >to the backend network, or should it be member server and dual NIC'd, one to >the DMZ LAN and one on the backend network behind the SBS? I believe making >it a stand-alone is the preffered design, but not sure how to control >access.
Stand alone unless you have a reason not to. Since you're asking the question, you don't have a valid reason to make the system part of a domain. :) You would never add a second internal NIC to a server in the DMZ. That negates the DMZ. [quoted text, click to view] >2. How do I allow a remote user access to manage their site which I would >like to build for them.
Depends on what "manage" means in this case. Might look at using a control panel: IIS Control Panels: http://www.adsi4nt.com/ http://www.nthelp.org/ [quoted text, click to view] >I know it might be best to have a hosted service provided by others, but I >happen to have the Windows 2003 server software, I have the server and I >have the interest to find out the correct way to run an external website in >a Windows SBS 2003 environment.
It's still best to put it elsewhere. :) [quoted text, click to view] >What I am seeking answers to is what is best practice for security and >protection of my internal SBS network, where an external site is required, >and where the site will host content from customers who are not users within >the SBS domain but need acces to their site for placing content, mananging >that content, etc. If I make it a stand alone in the DMZ, how do I manage it >as well for normal routing system administration tasks?
Provide a remote control solution for your administration, such as Terminal Services. Using a VPN is preferable. For customers to manage content, set up FTP access for them.
It's really hard and uneasy to give security configuration advice with so little information... There are many things to take into consideration when planning such an environment. I try to do my best from my personal experience and how I would advice my clients. If you have any more questions allong the way, stop by :-) Mike [quoted text, click to view] "bits on glass" <news@evanetllc.com> wrote in message news:XGEDc.6588$l15.1829@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com... > Mike, > > Thanks for confirming what I identified in my post where I indicated I > thought making it a stand alone would be the preffered design where > security > is the focus. I just wanted to throw the question out there in the event > there was some cool way to manage security at the server level in a dual > NIC'd Windows server design allowing for easier administration. > > While I do my best to stay current with the Windows server environment is > a > bit new to me and I accept that there are many things I do not know so I > better ask! :-) > > ~ bits > > > > > "Miha Pihler" <mihap-news@atlantis.si> wrote in message > news:elxiVPGXEHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> Hi, >> >> having two cards in server, one lading to the internet through the > firewall >> and one bypassing it into the LAN really destroys the point of having >> firewall in first place. If someone is able to hack your server in DMZ he >> has free access to LAN so there is no point in having DMZ. Servers and >> computers in DMZ should not have any direct access to LAN in any way > (either >> by bypassing a firewall or by rules on the firewall)... >> >> Since there should be no communication between DMZ and LAN (in direction > DMZ >> to LAN) servers in DMZ should be standalone servers. If you have them in >> domain, your firewall will have more holes in it then cheese. >> >> Regarding remote administration, you could allow e.g. Terminal Service >> Access only from LAN to DMZ and Administrators of the web site content > could >> use Front Page for administration... >> >> I hope this helps you out at least a bit, >> >> Mike >> >> "bits on glass" <news@evanetllc.com> wrote in message >> news:bznDc.6187$4i6.2756@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com... >> >I have a Windows SBS 2003 behind a PIX firewall with several clients > behind >> > the SBS. I want to place a Windows 2003 server in the DMZ to host a > couple >> > of external sites. I have enough static IPs to support the site. I am >> > searching for a good resource to answer several questions related to >> > managing the server in the DMZ: >> > >> > 1. Should the server in the DMZ be a stand alone server with no > connection >> > to the backend network, or should it be member server and dual NIC'd, > one >> > to >> > the DMZ LAN and one on the backend network behind the SBS? I believe >> > making >> > it a stand-alone is the preffered design, but not sure how to control >> > access. >> > >> > 2. How do I allow a remote user access to manage their site which I > would >> > like to build for them. >> > >> > I know it might be best to have a hosted service provided by others, >> > but > I >> > happen to have the Windows 2003 server software, I have the server and >> > I >> > have the interest to find out the correct way to run an external >> > website >> > in >> > a Windows SBS 2003 environment. >> > >> > What I am seeking answers to is what is best practice for security and >> > protection of my internal SBS network, where an external site is > required, >> > and where the site will host content from customers who are not users >> > within >> > the SBS domain but need acces to their site for placing content, > mananging >> > that content, etc. If I make it a stand alone in the DMZ, how do I > manage >> > it >> > as well for normal routing system administration tasks? >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > >> >> > >
In addition to the other answers here, be sure you have read the documents at www.microsoft.com/technet/security on how to harden Win2003. One of the documents even describes how to configure it as a "bastion host." [quoted text, click to view] "bits on glass" <news@evanetllc.com> wrote in message news:bznDc.6187$4i6.2756@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com... > I have a Windows SBS 2003 behind a PIX firewall with several clients behind > the SBS. I want to place a Windows 2003 server in the DMZ to host a couple > of external sites. I have enough static IPs to support the site. I am > searching for a good resource to answer several questions related to > managing the server in the DMZ: > What I am seeking answers to is what is best practice for security and > protection of my internal SBS network, where an external site is required, > and where the site will host content from customers who are not users within > the SBS domain but need acces to their site for placing content, mananging > that content, etc. If I make it a stand alone in the DMZ, how do I manage it > as well for normal routing system administration tasks? > > Thanks! > >
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