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server, I have come the the conclusion, I can't. So what I would like to do is setup each website I host as a separate smtp virtual server. This way, they can all have the address postmaster@domain and abuse@domain. Please let me know if my thinking is wrong. The docs are mixed between exchange smtp and iis smtp. I find it hard to follow when it tells me to open exchange. The article looks like what I want, until I see open exchange manager. Thanks in advance,
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:47:03 -0800, John McLagan
[quoted text, click to view] <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >After reading at length about using exchange on my public >server, I have come the the conclusion, I can't. > >So what I would like to do is setup each website I host >as a separate smtp virtual server. This way, they can >all have the address postmaster@domain and >abuse@domain. > >Please let me know if my thinking is wrong. The docs >are mixed between exchange smtp and iis smtp. I find >it hard to follow when it tells me to open exchange. The >article looks like what I want, until I see open exchange >manager. Exchange has SMTP as well as just installing SMTP for the system. You don't specify the OS, but you need to be aware that SMTP by itself does not provide for mailboxes as you would find in POP servers, and doesn't support POP/MAPI clients such as Outlook Express for retrieving mail. You need to install POP if you use Server 2003, or a mail server such as Exchange for this to function. What OS you use determins the specific steps in setting up multiple SMTP virtual servers outside of Exchange.
What I need is how to setup multiple
smtp virtual servers on one box. I want each domain that I host to identify itself as mail.domain.com. How do I setup smtp/pop3 to have multiple virtual servers? I setup a new virtual server as a test. It setup and started, but when I go into pop3 all I see is my default virtual server. I have each domain that has email on their own static ip address. Now how do I get the x domain to use x mail server? And how do I access it within pop3 manager. Thanks, John [quoted text, click to view] "Jeff Cochran" wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:47:03 -0800, John McLagan > <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >After reading at length about using exchange on my public > >server, I have come the the conclusion, I can't. > > > >So what I would like to do is setup each website I host > >as a separate smtp virtual server. This way, they can > >all have the address postmaster@domain and > >abuse@domain. > > > >Please let me know if my thinking is wrong. The docs > >are mixed between exchange smtp and iis smtp. I find > >it hard to follow when it tells me to open exchange. The > >article looks like what I want, until I see open exchange > >manager. > > Exchange has SMTP as well as just installing SMTP for the system. You > don't specify the OS, but you need to be aware that SMTP by itself > does not provide for mailboxes as you would find in POP servers, and > doesn't support POP/MAPI clients such as Outlook Express for > retrieving mail. You need to install POP if you use Server 2003, or a > mail server such as Exchange for this to function. > > What OS you use determins the specific steps in setting up multiple > SMTP virtual servers outside of Exchange. > > Jedff
Hey Jeff -
Thanks for the speedy response. I did find the smtp article prior. However, I didn't follow the pop3 data as closely as I thought. Honestly, I was afraid to do anything to the pop service that might take down the other domains. However, a winpop add < > later and all is working perfectly. Thanks a million Jeff. Cheers, John [quoted text, click to view] "Jeff Cochran" wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:31:03 -0800, John McLagan > <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >What I need is how to setup multiple > >smtp virtual servers on one box. I want > >each domain that I host to identify itself > >as mail.domain.com. > > > >How do I setup smtp/pop3 to have > >multiple virtual servers? I setup > >a new virtual server as a test. It setup > >and started, but when I go into pop3 > >all I see is my default virtual server. > > > >I have each domain that has email > >on their own static ip address. Now > >how do I get the x domain to use x mail > >server? And how do I access it within > >pop3 manager. > > Take a look at: > > How to create additional SMTP virtual servers in Windows 2000 and in > Windows Server 2003: > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;303707 > > POP3 Domains: > http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/WindowsServ/2003/standard/proddocs/en-us/POP3_howTo_domains.asp > > Jeff > > > > >"Jeff Cochran" wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:47:03 -0800, John McLagan > >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> > >> >After reading at length about using exchange on my public > >> >server, I have come the the conclusion, I can't. > >> > > >> >So what I would like to do is setup each website I host > >> >as a separate smtp virtual server. This way, they can > >> >all have the address postmaster@domain and > >> >abuse@domain. > >> > > >> >Please let me know if my thinking is wrong. The docs > >> >are mixed between exchange smtp and iis smtp. I find > >> >it hard to follow when it tells me to open exchange. The > >> >article looks like what I want, until I see open exchange > >> >manager. > >> > >> Exchange has SMTP as well as just installing SMTP for the system. You > >> don't specify the OS, but you need to be aware that SMTP by itself > >> does not provide for mailboxes as you would find in POP servers, and > >> doesn't support POP/MAPI clients such as Outlook Express for > >> retrieving mail. You need to install POP if you use Server 2003, or a > >> mail server such as Exchange for this to function. > >> > >> What OS you use determins the specific steps in setting up multiple > >> SMTP virtual servers outside of Exchange. > >> > >> Jedff > >> >
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:31:03 -0800, John McLagan
[quoted text, click to view] <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >What I need is how to setup multiple >smtp virtual servers on one box. I want >each domain that I host to identify itself >as mail.domain.com. > >How do I setup smtp/pop3 to have >multiple virtual servers? I setup >a new virtual server as a test. It setup >and started, but when I go into pop3 >all I see is my default virtual server. > >I have each domain that has email >on their own static ip address. Now >how do I get the x domain to use x mail >server? And how do I access it within >pop3 manager. Take a look at: How to create additional SMTP virtual servers in Windows 2000 and in Windows Server 2003: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;303707 POP3 Domains: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/WindowsServ/2003/standard/proddocs/en-us/POP3_howTo_domains.asp Jeff [quoted text, click to view] >"Jeff Cochran" wrote:
> >> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:47:03 -0800, John McLagan >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >After reading at length about using exchange on my public >> >server, I have come the the conclusion, I can't. >> > >> >So what I would like to do is setup each website I host >> >as a separate smtp virtual server. This way, they can >> >all have the address postmaster@domain and >> >abuse@domain. >> > >> >Please let me know if my thinking is wrong. The docs >> >are mixed between exchange smtp and iis smtp. I find >> >it hard to follow when it tells me to open exchange. The >> >article looks like what I want, until I see open exchange >> >manager. >> >> Exchange has SMTP as well as just installing SMTP for the system. You >> don't specify the OS, but you need to be aware that SMTP by itself >> does not provide for mailboxes as you would find in POP servers, and >> doesn't support POP/MAPI clients such as Outlook Express for >> retrieving mail. You need to install POP if you use Server 2003, or a >> mail server such as Exchange for this to function. >> >> What OS you use determins the specific steps in setting up multiple >> SMTP virtual servers outside of Exchange. >> >> Jedff >>
I thought I was on the right track, but maybe not.
When i did the winpop add domainname.com it added a domain to the default domain. What I am trying to do is setup a separate smtp server on each ip. I think I go that setup correctly because the drop directory is being created where I tell it to. That is before I attempt to add pop3. Then it is added to the default domain instead of correct virtual server. How do I get pop3 to add the other virtual servers so I can choose which domains use which virtual server? Thanks, John [quoted text, click to view] "John McLagan" wrote:
> Hey Jeff - > > Thanks for the speedy response. I did find the smtp > article prior. However, I didn't follow the pop3 data > as closely as I thought. Honestly, I was afraid to > do anything to the pop service that might take > down the other domains. > > However, a winpop add < > later and all is working > perfectly. Thanks a million Jeff. > > Cheers, > > John > > > > "Jeff Cochran" wrote: > > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:31:03 -0800, John McLagan > > <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > > > >What I need is how to setup multiple > > >smtp virtual servers on one box. I want > > >each domain that I host to identify itself > > >as mail.domain.com. > > > > > >How do I setup smtp/pop3 to have > > >multiple virtual servers? I setup > > >a new virtual server as a test. It setup > > >and started, but when I go into pop3 > > >all I see is my default virtual server. > > > > > >I have each domain that has email > > >on their own static ip address. Now > > >how do I get the x domain to use x mail > > >server? And how do I access it within > > >pop3 manager. > > > > Take a look at: > > > > How to create additional SMTP virtual servers in Windows 2000 and in > > Windows Server 2003: > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;303707 > > > > POP3 Domains: > > http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/WindowsServ/2003/standard/proddocs/en-us/POP3_howTo_domains.asp > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > >"Jeff Cochran" wrote: > > > > > >> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:47:03 -0800, John McLagan > > >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> >After reading at length about using exchange on my public > > >> >server, I have come the the conclusion, I can't. > > >> > > > >> >So what I would like to do is setup each website I host > > >> >as a separate smtp virtual server. This way, they can > > >> >all have the address postmaster@domain and > > >> >abuse@domain. > > >> > > > >> >Please let me know if my thinking is wrong. The docs > > >> >are mixed between exchange smtp and iis smtp. I find > > >> >it hard to follow when it tells me to open exchange. The > > >> >article looks like what I want, until I see open exchange > > >> >manager. > > >> > > >> Exchange has SMTP as well as just installing SMTP for the system. You > > >> don't specify the OS, but you need to be aware that SMTP by itself > > >> does not provide for mailboxes as you would find in POP servers, and > > >> doesn't support POP/MAPI clients such as Outlook Express for > > >> retrieving mail. You need to install POP if you use Server 2003, or a > > >> mail server such as Exchange for this to function. > > >> > > >> What OS you use determins the specific steps in setting up multiple > > >> SMTP virtual servers outside of Exchange. > > >> > > >> Jedff > > >> > >
Hi Lutz -
That is how I have it setup now. I want to place each domain on its own smtp virtual server each domain identifies itself as mail.xxx.com I know how to create the additional smtp virtual servers. What I need to know is how to make pop3 access my additional smtp virtual servers, not just the default server. Thanks, John [quoted text, click to view] "Lutz Elßner" wrote:
> You need only one -the default- SMTP virtual Server. This can handle all > Domains and also POP 3 Accounts for multiple Domains. > >
You need only one -the default- SMTP virtual Server. This can handle all
Domains and also POP 3 Accounts for multiple Domains.
Hey Jeff -
I have setup a virtual server for each. Maybe I don't know the proper terminology, but how do I get the users of those domain their email by using pop? John [quoted text, click to view] "Jeff Cochran" wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:25:01 -0800, John McLagan > <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >That is how I have it setup now. I want to place each domain on its own > >smtp virtual server each domain identifies itself as mail.xxx.com > > > >I know how to create the additional smtp virtual servers. What I need to > >know is how to make pop3 access my additional smtp virtual servers, not just > >the default server. > > You can't. POP doesn't access a SMTP server, ever. They are two > separate technologies. The client settings choose the POP and SMTP > servers to be used. Have you created a virtual domain for each domain > on your POP server? > > Jeff
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:25:01 -0800, John McLagan
[quoted text, click to view] <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >That is how I have it setup now. I want to place each domain on its own >smtp virtual server each domain identifies itself as mail.xxx.com > >I know how to create the additional smtp virtual servers. What I need to >know is how to make pop3 access my additional smtp virtual servers, not just >the default server. You can't. POP doesn't access a SMTP server, ever. They are two separate technologies. The client settings choose the POP and SMTP servers to be used. Have you created a virtual domain for each domain on your POP server?
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:47:03 -0800, John McLagan
[quoted text, click to view] <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >I have setup a virtual server for each. Maybe I don't know the proper >terminology, but how do I get the users of those domain their email >by using pop? You create a POP domain, with a mailbox for the user. On the client, you specify the POP server and SMTP server, which don't have to be the same server. The client software pulls the mail from the POP domain. I'm not entirely sure I understand where you're missing the link in the process. It really is pretty simple, maybe you're just over thinking it. Have you got a default SMTP and POP server set up and working with at least one account? Or is the problem the initial setup and not just on additional domains? You know, I've looked for a tutorial on this with screenshots and I'm just not finding one. The docs are okay but not the best, you may want to look at one or more of the books on IIS6. William Staneks IIS Admin Pocket Consultant has a reference chapter on email (actually two I believe). Might want to look at other books as well. One caveat, you do need to use Active Directory to have multiple domains with the same user account. Jeff [quoted text, click to view] >"Jeff Cochran" wrote:
> >> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:25:01 -0800, John McLagan >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >That is how I have it setup now. I want to place each domain on its own >> >smtp virtual server each domain identifies itself as mail.xxx.com >> > >> >I know how to create the additional smtp virtual servers. What I need to >> >know is how to make pop3 access my additional smtp virtual servers, not just >> >the default server. >> >> You can't. POP doesn't access a SMTP server, ever. They are two >> separate technologies. The client settings choose the POP and SMTP >> servers to be used. Have you created a virtual domain for each domain >> on your POP server? >> >> Jeff >>
Hi Jeff -
Ok...I totally get what you are saying. Let me tell you where I have my problem. Right now the config of this server is one smtp virtual server and all domains serviced by pop3. Ok....now I want to do what I have proposed throughout this chain. Add additional smtp virtual servers by IP address. No problem there. OK Now I go back to the pop3 interface and attempt to add the additional smtp virtual servers. I can't - the only server that I can access is the default server. So if I attempt to add the domain, it will add the domain to the default smtp server. Not the additional servers I have setup. Does that make sense? I feel I should be able to connect to each virtual server. But I don't know how to address it? Am I overthinking it? Thanks, John [quoted text, click to view] "Jeff Cochran" wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:47:03 -0800, John McLagan > <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >I have setup a virtual server for each. Maybe I don't know the proper > >terminology, but how do I get the users of those domain their email > >by using pop? > > You create a POP domain, with a mailbox for the user. On the client, > you specify the POP server and SMTP server, which don't have to be the > same server. The client software pulls the mail from the POP domain. > > I'm not entirely sure I understand where you're missing the link in > the process. It really is pretty simple, maybe you're just over > thinking it. > > Have you got a default SMTP and POP server set up and working with at > least one account? Or is the problem the initial setup and not just > on additional domains? > > You know, I've looked for a tutorial on this with screenshots and I'm > just not finding one. The docs are okay but not the best, you may > want to look at one or more of the books on IIS6. William Staneks IIS > Admin Pocket Consultant has a reference chapter on email (actually two > I believe). Might want to look at other books as well. > > One caveat, you do need to use Active Directory to have multiple > domains with the same user account. > > Jeff > > > >"Jeff Cochran" wrote: > > > >> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:25:01 -0800, John McLagan > >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> > >> >That is how I have it setup now. I want to place each domain on its own > >> >smtp virtual server each domain identifies itself as mail.xxx.com > >> > > >> >I know how to create the additional smtp virtual servers. What I need to > >> >know is how to make pop3 access my additional smtp virtual servers, not just > >> >the default server. > >> > >> You can't. POP doesn't access a SMTP server, ever. They are two > >> separate technologies. The client settings choose the POP and SMTP > >> servers to be used. Have you created a virtual domain for each domain > >> on your POP server? > >> > >> Jeff > >> >
[quoted text, click to view]
"Jeff Cochran" wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:59:02 -0800, John McLagan > <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >Hi Jeff - > > > >Ok...I totally get what you are saying. Let me tell you where I have my > >problem. > >Right now the config of this server is one smtp virtual server and all > >domains serviced by pop3. > > > >Ok....now I want to do what I have proposed throughout this chain. Add > >additional smtp virtual servers by IP address. No problem there. OK > > > >Now I go back to the pop3 interface and attempt to add the additional smtp > >virtual servers. > > The POP snap in isn't where SMTP is configured. They are two separate > things. SMTP is in the IIS management console. I realize that....thats why I am going back to the pop3 interface screen, not the smtp in IIS. [quoted text, click to view] > >I can't - the only server that I can access is the default > >server. So if I attempt to add the domain, it will add the domain to the > >default smtp server. Not the additional servers I have setup. > > That's true for POP. That's the way POP works. Add each new POP > domain here. Add the new mailboxes and add corresponding Windows > users. So I am adding the smtp virtual server to handle the smtp portion. Then setting up pop3 on the default virtual server will transfer the mail from the additional smtp virtual server directories to the appropriate pop3 directories? Is that what I am missing? The smtp virtual servers I have down. It's the pop3 portion that is confusing me. [quoted text, click to view] > >Does that make sense? I feel I should be able to connect to each virtual
> >server. But I don't know how to address it? Am I overthinking it? > > I think you're confusing SMTP and POP. In the IIS MMC, right-click on > the computer and choose New SMTP Virtual server. That should start > the virtual server wizard and walk you through the rest. You need to > have the IP addresses already on the system of course. Pick the IP, > create a home directory and choose the new domain as the default > domain for this server. You have to have the DNS zone set up for this > domain, with an MX record pointing to the IP for this domain. That's > really about all there is to it. > > Jeff > > >"Jeff Cochran" wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:47:03 -0800, John McLagan > >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> > >> >I have setup a virtual server for each. Maybe I don't know the proper > >> >terminology, but how do I get the users of those domain their email > >> >by using pop? > >> > >> You create a POP domain, with a mailbox for the user. On the client, > >> you specify the POP server and SMTP server, which don't have to be the > >> same server. The client software pulls the mail from the POP domain. > >> > >> I'm not entirely sure I understand where you're missing the link in > >> the process. It really is pretty simple, maybe you're just over > >> thinking it. > >> > >> Have you got a default SMTP and POP server set up and working with at > >> least one account? Or is the problem the initial setup and not just > >> on additional domains? > >> > >> You know, I've looked for a tutorial on this with screenshots and I'm > >> just not finding one. The docs are okay but not the best, you may > >> want to look at one or more of the books on IIS6. William Staneks IIS > >> Admin Pocket Consultant has a reference chapter on email (actually two > >> I believe). Might want to look at other books as well. > >> > >> One caveat, you do need to use Active Directory to have multiple > >> domains with the same user account. > >> > >> Jeff > >> > >> > >> >"Jeff Cochran" wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:25:01 -0800, John McLagan > >> >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >That is how I have it setup now. I want to place each domain on its own > >> >> >smtp virtual server each domain identifies itself as mail.xxx.com > >> >> > > >> >> >I know how to create the additional smtp virtual servers. What I need to > >> >> >know is how to make pop3 access my additional smtp virtual servers, not just > >> >> >the default server. > >> >> > >> >> You can't. POP doesn't access a SMTP server, ever. They are two > >> >> separate technologies. The client settings choose the POP and SMTP > >> >> servers to be used. Have you created a virtual domain for each domain > >> >> on your POP server? > >> >> > >> >> Jeff > >> >> > >> > >> >
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:59:02 -0800, John McLagan
[quoted text, click to view] <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >Hi Jeff - > >Ok...I totally get what you are saying. Let me tell you where I have my >problem. >Right now the config of this server is one smtp virtual server and all >domains serviced by pop3. > >Ok....now I want to do what I have proposed throughout this chain. Add >additional smtp virtual servers by IP address. No problem there. OK > >Now I go back to the pop3 interface and attempt to add the additional smtp >virtual servers. The POP snap in isn't where SMTP is configured. They are two separate things. SMTP is in the IIS management console. [quoted text, click to view] >I can't - the only server that I can access is the default >server. So if I attempt to add the domain, it will add the domain to the >default smtp server. Not the additional servers I have setup. That's true for POP. That's the way POP works. Add each new POP domain here. Add the new mailboxes and add corresponding Windows users. [quoted text, click to view] >Does that make sense? I feel I should be able to connect to each virtual >server. But I don't know how to address it? Am I overthinking it? I think you're confusing SMTP and POP. In the IIS MMC, right-click on the computer and choose New SMTP Virtual server. That should start the virtual server wizard and walk you through the rest. You need to have the IP addresses already on the system of course. Pick the IP, create a home directory and choose the new domain as the default domain for this server. You have to have the DNS zone set up for this domain, with an MX record pointing to the IP for this domain. That's really about all there is to it. Jeff [quoted text, click to view] >"Jeff Cochran" wrote:
> >> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:47:03 -0800, John McLagan >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >I have setup a virtual server for each. Maybe I don't know the proper >> >terminology, but how do I get the users of those domain their email >> >by using pop? >> >> You create a POP domain, with a mailbox for the user. On the client, >> you specify the POP server and SMTP server, which don't have to be the >> same server. The client software pulls the mail from the POP domain. >> >> I'm not entirely sure I understand where you're missing the link in >> the process. It really is pretty simple, maybe you're just over >> thinking it. >> >> Have you got a default SMTP and POP server set up and working with at >> least one account? Or is the problem the initial setup and not just >> on additional domains? >> >> You know, I've looked for a tutorial on this with screenshots and I'm >> just not finding one. The docs are okay but not the best, you may >> want to look at one or more of the books on IIS6. William Staneks IIS >> Admin Pocket Consultant has a reference chapter on email (actually two >> I believe). Might want to look at other books as well. >> >> One caveat, you do need to use Active Directory to have multiple >> domains with the same user account. >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >"Jeff Cochran" wrote: >> > >> >> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:25:01 -0800, John McLagan >> >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >That is how I have it setup now. I want to place each domain on its own >> >> >smtp virtual server each domain identifies itself as mail.xxx.com >> >> > >> >> >I know how to create the additional smtp virtual servers. What I need to >> >> >know is how to make pop3 access my additional smtp virtual servers, not just >> >> >the default server. >> >> >> >> You can't. POP doesn't access a SMTP server, ever. They are two >> >> separate technologies. The client settings choose the POP and SMTP >> >> servers to be used. Have you created a virtual domain for each domain >> >> on your POP server? >> >> >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >>
Jeff -
Thanks for bearing with me........I will try it. John [quoted text, click to view] "Jeff Cochran" wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:57:07 -0800, John McLagan > <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >"Jeff Cochran" wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:59:02 -0800, John McLagan > >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> > >> >Hi Jeff - > >> > > >> >Ok...I totally get what you are saying. Let me tell you where I have my > >> >problem. > >> >Right now the config of this server is one smtp virtual server and all > >> >domains serviced by pop3. > >> > > >> >Ok....now I want to do what I have proposed throughout this chain. Add > >> >additional smtp virtual servers by IP address. No problem there. OK > >> > > >> >Now I go back to the pop3 interface and attempt to add the additional smtp > >> >virtual servers. > >> > >> The POP snap in isn't where SMTP is configured. They are two separate > >> things. SMTP is in the IIS management console. > > > >I realize that....thats why I am going back to the pop3 interface screen, > >not the smtp in IIS. > > > >> >I can't - the only server that I can access is the default > >> >server. So if I attempt to add the domain, it will add the domain to the > >> >default smtp server. Not the additional servers I have setup. > >> > >> That's true for POP. That's the way POP works. Add each new POP > >> domain here. Add the new mailboxes and add corresponding Windows > >> users. > > > >So I am adding the smtp virtual server to handle the smtp portion. Then > >setting up pop3 on the default virtual server will transfer the mail from the > >additional smtp virtual server directories to the appropriate pop3 > >directories? Is that what I am missing? > > That's how it's supposed to work. > > >The smtp virtual servers I have down. It's the pop3 portion that is > >confusing me. > > It's a little different in that there is really only one POP server, > not the virtual servers like in SMTP. But that POP server handles > multiple domains. Each domain will get a drop folder, SMTP uses the > drop folder for the domain for the incoming email messages. > > I still haven't found a decent tutorial for this. The docs are pretty > clear if you already know what you're doing, but could be confusing if > you've never done this before. > > One thing that helps is setting the system to configure a POP mailbox > for each new user. Then you just need to add the user in Windows and > the POP portion is configured. You specify the FQDN account for the > user, as in billg@microsoft.com, bigbird@sesamestreet.tv, > martha@ex-con.org or whatever. > > Jeff > > > >> >Does that make sense? I feel I should be able to connect to each virtual > >> >server. But I don't know how to address it? Am I overthinking it? > >> > >> I think you're confusing SMTP and POP. In the IIS MMC, right-click on > >> the computer and choose New SMTP Virtual server. That should start > >> the virtual server wizard and walk you through the rest. You need to > >> have the IP addresses already on the system of course. Pick the IP, > >> create a home directory and choose the new domain as the default > >> domain for this server. You have to have the DNS zone set up for this > >> domain, with an MX record pointing to the IP for this domain. That's > >> really about all there is to it. > >> > >> Jeff > >> > >> >"Jeff Cochran" wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:47:03 -0800, John McLagan > >> >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >I have setup a virtual server for each. Maybe I don't know the proper > >> >> >terminology, but how do I get the users of those domain their email > >> >> >by using pop? > >> >> > >> >> You create a POP domain, with a mailbox for the user. On the client, > >> >> you specify the POP server and SMTP server, which don't have to be the > >> >> same server. The client software pulls the mail from the POP domain. > >> >> > >> >> I'm not entirely sure I understand where you're missing the link in > >> >> the process. It really is pretty simple, maybe you're just over > >> >> thinking it. > >> >> > >> >> Have you got a default SMTP and POP server set up and working with at > >> >> least one account? Or is the problem the initial setup and not just > >> >> on additional domains? > >> >> > >> >> You know, I've looked for a tutorial on this with screenshots and I'm > >> >> just not finding one. The docs are okay but not the best, you may > >> >> want to look at one or more of the books on IIS6. William Staneks IIS > >> >> Admin Pocket Consultant has a reference chapter on email (actually two > >> >> I believe). Might want to look at other books as well. > >> >> > >> >> One caveat, you do need to use Active Directory to have multiple > >> >> domains with the same user account. > >> >> > >> >> Jeff > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >"Jeff Cochran" wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:25:01 -0800, John McLagan > >> >> >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >That is how I have it setup now. I want to place each domain on its own > >> >> >> >smtp virtual server each domain identifies itself as mail.xxx.com > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >I know how to create the additional smtp virtual servers. What I need to > >> >> >> >know is how to make pop3 access my additional smtp virtual servers, not just > >> >> >> >the default server. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> You can't. POP doesn't access a SMTP server, ever. They are two > >> >> >> separate technologies. The client settings choose the POP and SMTP > >> >> >> servers to be used. Have you created a virtual domain for each domain > >> >> >> on your POP server? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Jeff > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:57:07 -0800, John McLagan
[quoted text, click to view] <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >"Jeff Cochran" wrote: > >> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:59:02 -0800, John McLagan >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >Hi Jeff - >> > >> >Ok...I totally get what you are saying. Let me tell you where I have my >> >problem. >> >Right now the config of this server is one smtp virtual server and all >> >domains serviced by pop3. >> > >> >Ok....now I want to do what I have proposed throughout this chain. Add >> >additional smtp virtual servers by IP address. No problem there. OK >> > >> >Now I go back to the pop3 interface and attempt to add the additional smtp >> >virtual servers. >> >> The POP snap in isn't where SMTP is configured. They are two separate >> things. SMTP is in the IIS management console. > >I realize that....thats why I am going back to the pop3 interface screen, >not the smtp in IIS. > >> >I can't - the only server that I can access is the default >> >server. So if I attempt to add the domain, it will add the domain to the >> >default smtp server. Not the additional servers I have setup. >> >> That's true for POP. That's the way POP works. Add each new POP >> domain here. Add the new mailboxes and add corresponding Windows >> users. > >So I am adding the smtp virtual server to handle the smtp portion. Then >setting up pop3 on the default virtual server will transfer the mail from the >additional smtp virtual server directories to the appropriate pop3 >directories? Is that what I am missing? That's how it's supposed to work. [quoted text, click to view] >The smtp virtual servers I have down. It's the pop3 portion that is >confusing me. It's a little different in that there is really only one POP server, not the virtual servers like in SMTP. But that POP server handles multiple domains. Each domain will get a drop folder, SMTP uses the drop folder for the domain for the incoming email messages. I still haven't found a decent tutorial for this. The docs are pretty clear if you already know what you're doing, but could be confusing if you've never done this before. One thing that helps is setting the system to configure a POP mailbox for each new user. Then you just need to add the user in Windows and the POP portion is configured. You specify the FQDN account for the user, as in billg@microsoft.com, bigbird@sesamestreet.tv, martha@ex-con.org or whatever. Jeff [quoted text, click to view] >> >Does that make sense? I feel I should be able to connect to each virtual
>> >server. But I don't know how to address it? Am I overthinking it? >> >> I think you're confusing SMTP and POP. In the IIS MMC, right-click on >> the computer and choose New SMTP Virtual server. That should start >> the virtual server wizard and walk you through the rest. You need to >> have the IP addresses already on the system of course. Pick the IP, >> create a home directory and choose the new domain as the default >> domain for this server. You have to have the DNS zone set up for this >> domain, with an MX record pointing to the IP for this domain. That's >> really about all there is to it. >> >> Jeff >> >> >"Jeff Cochran" wrote: >> > >> >> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:47:03 -0800, John McLagan >> >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >I have setup a virtual server for each. Maybe I don't know the proper >> >> >terminology, but how do I get the users of those domain their email >> >> >by using pop? >> >> >> >> You create a POP domain, with a mailbox for the user. On the client, >> >> you specify the POP server and SMTP server, which don't have to be the >> >> same server. The client software pulls the mail from the POP domain. >> >> >> >> I'm not entirely sure I understand where you're missing the link in >> >> the process. It really is pretty simple, maybe you're just over >> >> thinking it. >> >> >> >> Have you got a default SMTP and POP server set up and working with at >> >> least one account? Or is the problem the initial setup and not just >> >> on additional domains? >> >> >> >> You know, I've looked for a tutorial on this with screenshots and I'm >> >> just not finding one. The docs are okay but not the best, you may >> >> want to look at one or more of the books on IIS6. William Staneks IIS >> >> Admin Pocket Consultant has a reference chapter on email (actually two >> >> I believe). Might want to look at other books as well. >> >> >> >> One caveat, you do need to use Active Directory to have multiple >> >> domains with the same user account. >> >> >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >> >> >> >"Jeff Cochran" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:25:01 -0800, John McLagan >> >> >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >That is how I have it setup now. I want to place each domain on its own >> >> >> >smtp virtual server each domain identifies itself as mail.xxx.com >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I know how to create the additional smtp virtual servers. What I need to >> >> >> >know is how to make pop3 access my additional smtp virtual servers, not just >> >> >> >the default server. >> >> >> >> >> >> You can't. POP doesn't access a SMTP server, ever. They are two >> >> >> separate technologies. The client settings choose the POP and SMTP >> >> >> servers to be used. Have you created a virtual domain for each domain >> >> >> on your POP server? >> >> >> >> >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
can you post some links to documents on this.
I have allways just useds exchange to handle email. i would love to "test" to make a mail server with server 2003 w/o having to install exchange, or make it a member of a domain. [quoted text, click to view] "Jeff Cochran" <jeff.nospam@zina.com> wrote in message news:4248639d.15296405@msnews.microsoft.com... > On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:57:07 -0800, John McLagan > <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >>"Jeff Cochran" wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:59:02 -0800, John McLagan >>> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>> >>> >Hi Jeff - >>> > >>> >Ok...I totally get what you are saying. Let me tell you where I have >>> >my >>> >problem. >>> >Right now the config of this server is one smtp virtual server and all >>> >domains serviced by pop3. >>> > >>> >Ok....now I want to do what I have proposed throughout this chain. Add >>> >additional smtp virtual servers by IP address. No problem there. OK >>> > >>> >Now I go back to the pop3 interface and attempt to add the additional >>> >smtp >>> >virtual servers. >>> >>> The POP snap in isn't where SMTP is configured. They are two separate >>> things. SMTP is in the IIS management console. >> >>I realize that....thats why I am going back to the pop3 interface screen, >>not the smtp in IIS. >> >>> >I can't - the only server that I can access is the default >>> >server. So if I attempt to add the domain, it will add the domain to >>> >the >>> >default smtp server. Not the additional servers I have setup. >>> >>> That's true for POP. That's the way POP works. Add each new POP >>> domain here. Add the new mailboxes and add corresponding Windows >>> users. >> >>So I am adding the smtp virtual server to handle the smtp portion. Then >>setting up pop3 on the default virtual server will transfer the mail from >>the >>additional smtp virtual server directories to the appropriate pop3 >>directories? Is that what I am missing? > > That's how it's supposed to work. > >>The smtp virtual servers I have down. It's the pop3 portion that is >>confusing me. > > It's a little different in that there is really only one POP server, > not the virtual servers like in SMTP. But that POP server handles > multiple domains. Each domain will get a drop folder, SMTP uses the > drop folder for the domain for the incoming email messages. > > I still haven't found a decent tutorial for this. The docs are pretty > clear if you already know what you're doing, but could be confusing if > you've never done this before. > > One thing that helps is setting the system to configure a POP mailbox > for each new user. Then you just need to add the user in Windows and > the POP portion is configured. You specify the FQDN account for the > user, as in billg@microsoft.com, bigbird@sesamestreet.tv, > martha@ex-con.org or whatever. > > Jeff > > >>> >Does that make sense? I feel I should be able to connect to each >>> >virtual >>> >server. But I don't know how to address it? Am I overthinking it? >>> >>> I think you're confusing SMTP and POP. In the IIS MMC, right-click on >>> the computer and choose New SMTP Virtual server. That should start >>> the virtual server wizard and walk you through the rest. You need to >>> have the IP addresses already on the system of course. Pick the IP, >>> create a home directory and choose the new domain as the default >>> domain for this server. You have to have the DNS zone set up for this >>> domain, with an MX record pointing to the IP for this domain. That's >>> really about all there is to it. >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> >"Jeff Cochran" wrote: >>> > >>> >> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:47:03 -0800, John McLagan >>> >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >I have setup a virtual server for each. Maybe I don't know the >>> >> >proper >>> >> >terminology, but how do I get the users of those domain their email >>> >> >by using pop? >>> >> >>> >> You create a POP domain, with a mailbox for the user. On the client, >>> >> you specify the POP server and SMTP server, which don't have to be >>> >> the >>> >> same server. The client software pulls the mail from the POP domain. >>> >> >>> >> I'm not entirely sure I understand where you're missing the link in >>> >> the process. It really is pretty simple, maybe you're just over >>> >> thinking it. >>> >> >>> >> Have you got a default SMTP and POP server set up and working with at >>> >> least one account? Or is the problem the initial setup and not just >>> >> on additional domains? >>> >> >>> >> You know, I've looked for a tutorial on this with screenshots and I'm >>> >> just not finding one. The docs are okay but not the best, you may >>> >> want to look at one or more of the books on IIS6. William Staneks >>> >> IIS >>> >> Admin Pocket Consultant has a reference chapter on email (actually >>> >> two >>> >> I believe). Might want to look at other books as well. >>> >> >>> >> One caveat, you do need to use Active Directory to have multiple >>> >> domains with the same user account. >>> >> >>> >> Jeff >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >"Jeff Cochran" wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:25:01 -0800, John McLagan >>> >> >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >That is how I have it setup now. I want to place each domain on >>> >> >> >its own >>> >> >> >smtp virtual server each domain identifies itself as mail.xxx.com >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >I know how to create the additional smtp virtual servers. What I >>> >> >> >need to >>> >> >> >know is how to make pop3 access my additional smtp virtual >>> >> >> >servers, not just >>> >> >> >the default server. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> You can't. POP doesn't access a SMTP server, ever. They are two >>> >> >> separate technologies. The client settings choose the POP and >>> >> >> SMTP >>> >> >> servers to be used. Have you created a virtual domain for each >>> >> >> domain >>> >> >> on your POP server? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Jeff >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> >
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:18:18 -0500, "Backup" <backup@yahoo.com> wrote: >can you post some links to documents on this. >I have allways just useds exchange to handle email. i would love to "test" >to make a mail server with server 2003 w/o having to install exchange, or >make it a member of a domain. Start with: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/WindowsServ/2003/standard/proddocs/en-us/default.asp Jeff [quoted text, click to view] >
>"Jeff Cochran" <jeff.nospam@zina.com> wrote in message >news:4248639d.15296405@msnews.microsoft.com... >> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:57:07 -0800, John McLagan >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >>>"Jeff Cochran" wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:59:02 -0800, John McLagan >>>> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >Hi Jeff - >>>> > >>>> >Ok...I totally get what you are saying. Let me tell you where I have >>>> >my >>>> >problem. >>>> >Right now the config of this server is one smtp virtual server and all >>>> >domains serviced by pop3. >>>> > >>>> >Ok....now I want to do what I have proposed throughout this chain. Add >>>> >additional smtp virtual servers by IP address. No problem there. OK >>>> > >>>> >Now I go back to the pop3 interface and attempt to add the additional >>>> >smtp >>>> >virtual servers. >>>> >>>> The POP snap in isn't where SMTP is configured. They are two separate >>>> things. SMTP is in the IIS management console. >>> >>>I realize that....thats why I am going back to the pop3 interface screen, >>>not the smtp in IIS. >>> >>>> >I can't - the only server that I can access is the default >>>> >server. So if I attempt to add the domain, it will add the domain to >>>> >the >>>> >default smtp server. Not the additional servers I have setup. >>>> >>>> That's true for POP. That's the way POP works. Add each new POP >>>> domain here. Add the new mailboxes and add corresponding Windows >>>> users. >>> >>>So I am adding the smtp virtual server to handle the smtp portion. Then >>>setting up pop3 on the default virtual server will transfer the mail from >>>the >>>additional smtp virtual server directories to the appropriate pop3 >>>directories? Is that what I am missing? >> >> That's how it's supposed to work. >> >>>The smtp virtual servers I have down. It's the pop3 portion that is >>>confusing me. >> >> It's a little different in that there is really only one POP server, >> not the virtual servers like in SMTP. But that POP server handles >> multiple domains. Each domain will get a drop folder, SMTP uses the >> drop folder for the domain for the incoming email messages. >> >> I still haven't found a decent tutorial for this. The docs are pretty >> clear if you already know what you're doing, but could be confusing if >> you've never done this before. >> >> One thing that helps is setting the system to configure a POP mailbox >> for each new user. Then you just need to add the user in Windows and >> the POP portion is configured. You specify the FQDN account for the >> user, as in billg@microsoft.com, bigbird@sesamestreet.tv, >> martha@ex-con.org or whatever. >> >> Jeff >> >> >>>> >Does that make sense? I feel I should be able to connect to each >>>> >virtual >>>> >server. But I don't know how to address it? Am I overthinking it? >>>> >>>> I think you're confusing SMTP and POP. In the IIS MMC, right-click on >>>> the computer and choose New SMTP Virtual server. That should start >>>> the virtual server wizard and walk you through the rest. You need to >>>> have the IP addresses already on the system of course. Pick the IP, >>>> create a home directory and choose the new domain as the default >>>> domain for this server. You have to have the DNS zone set up for this >>>> domain, with an MX record pointing to the IP for this domain. That's >>>> really about all there is to it. >>>> >>>> Jeff >>>> >>>> >"Jeff Cochran" wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:47:03 -0800, John McLagan >>>> >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> >I have setup a virtual server for each. Maybe I don't know the >>>> >> >proper >>>> >> >terminology, but how do I get the users of those domain their email >>>> >> >by using pop? >>>> >> >>>> >> You create a POP domain, with a mailbox for the user. On the client, >>>> >> you specify the POP server and SMTP server, which don't have to be >>>> >> the >>>> >> same server. The client software pulls the mail from the POP domain. >>>> >> >>>> >> I'm not entirely sure I understand where you're missing the link in >>>> >> the process. It really is pretty simple, maybe you're just over >>>> >> thinking it. >>>> >> >>>> >> Have you got a default SMTP and POP server set up and working with at >>>> >> least one account? Or is the problem the initial setup and not just >>>> >> on additional domains? >>>> >> >>>> >> You know, I've looked for a tutorial on this with screenshots and I'm >>>> >> just not finding one. The docs are okay but not the best, you may >>>> >> want to look at one or more of the books on IIS6. William Staneks >>>> >> IIS >>>> >> Admin Pocket Consultant has a reference chapter on email (actually >>>> >> two >>>> >> I believe). Might want to look at other books as well. >>>> >> >>>> >> One caveat, you do need to use Active Directory to have multiple >>>> >> domains with the same user account. >>>> >> >>>> >> Jeff >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >"Jeff Cochran" wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> >> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:25:01 -0800, John McLagan >>>> >> >> <JohnMcLagan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >That is how I have it setup now. I want to place each domain on >>>> >> >> >its own >>>> >> >> >smtp virtual server each domain identifies itself as mail.xxx.com >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >I know how to create the additional smtp virtual servers. What I >>>> >> >> >need to >>>> >> >> >know is how to make pop3 access my additional smtp virtual >>>> >> >> >servers, not just >>>> >> >> >the default server. >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> You can't. POP doesn't access a SMTP server, ever. They are two >>>> >> >> separate technologies. The client settings choose the POP and >>>> >> >> SMTP >>>> >> >> servers to be used. Have you created a virtual domain for each >>>> >> >> domain >>>> >> >> on your POP server? >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Jeff >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >
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