"Eric Dan" <nospam@stopspamming.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Is there any support in the news server (IIS 6) for reading news over
> HTTP?
>
> If the above support does not exist and I know that many organizations use
> this scenario (news over HTTP) is there a complementary product? any other
> ideas?
>
> --
> Thanks
> Eric

"Peter D. Hipson" <mcn01 at hipson dot net> wrote in message
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> Another alternative is Exchange Server which does support HTTP
> newsgroups. IMHO, the licensing issues are so convoluted and
> non-understandable that it is unclear whether you can allow anomous
> public access or not. I did ask Microsoft for a definative answer and
> even they could (would?) not come up with one. Once MS gets its
> license issues more sane and logical, Exchange Server is a viable too.
> Right now, I'd say there are better, less complex (legally and
> technically) solutions.
>
> It would be nice if Exchange server didn't bother with client
> licensing... IMHO (again) MS is missing the boat here: Exchange Server
> client licenses are so expensive that it virtually eliminates the
> product from serious consideration for many potential users. But then
> again, it is MS's product, so they can do as they like. I just wish I
> could give my consulting clients better news about costs using a MS
> solution!
>
>
>
> On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:47:25 +1100, "Jason Brown [MSFT]"
> <i-brjaso@online.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>There's no built-in support, no. There are numerous third-party products
>>for
>>this though - you might want to take a look over at www.asp.net - they may
>>well have a community project open on this subject.
>
> PeterD, the Darkstar Network
> To email, fix my address!
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<i-brjaso@online.microsoft.com> wrote:

>There's no built-in support, no. There are numerous third-party products for
>this though - you might want to take a look over at www.asp.net - they may
>well have a community project open on this subject.

<i-brjaso@online.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Well, it's not my department to comment on licencing and pricing but I will
>note that Exchange Server as a standalone product is very much aimed at the
>enterprise; medium to large businesses.
>
>Small Business Server bundles Exchange at a very affordable rate, but you
>are limited on the number of clients which can connect.

"Peter D. Hipson" wrote:

> Jason, that describes Exchange quite well. However, for a solution for
> many, Exchange's licensing model is not 'friendly'. I've had to
> install other products with customers because of this, and that
> translates to lost sales for MS. However, neither you, nor I, will be
> able to change this...
>
> For example, say I'm an ISP and offereing email to my customers. I can
> charge, if I'm lucky maybe 14.95/month for the service. That's $180 a
> year per client. Now, if I restrict each client to one email address
> (that is unrealistic, however) and a client license costs me about $80
> per client (street price, not list!) that means that of my gross
> income, I spend almost 50% just for the client email license! That
> leaves me with $100 to cover cost of services, hardware, and whatever
> else there is. At those costs, it is not effective--I'm better off
> with other solutions (which may not have all the functionality, but
> "bang for buck" do blow Exchange out of the water...
>
> ---real case study:
>
> I really think the most amazing thing is that MS was not able to
> clarify how, if at all, when NNTP server parts of Exchange are
> available to the public at large, what cleint licensing is needed, if
> any! I asked, they could (or would?) not tell me. Where does that
> leave me? Either I forget about client licensing and hope that MS
> doesn't decide to sue me, or I find a solution that is more cost
> effective.
>
> Care to guess what solution was implemented?
>
> --- end of case study!
>
> This issues also affect many small businesses...
>
> I'm not ragging on you, Jason, just trying to get my point across.
>
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:37:13 +1000, "Jason Brown [MSFT]"
> <i-brjaso@online.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Well, it's not my department to comment on licencing and pricing but I will
> >note that Exchange Server as a standalone product is very much aimed at the
> >enterprise; medium to large businesses.
> >
> >Small Business Server bundles Exchange at a very affordable rate, but you
> >are limited on the number of clients which can connect.
>
> PeterD, the Darkstar Network
> To email, fix my address!
> ExpertZone!