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Every 3 or 4 days suddenly all mail gets stuck in the queue. It appears to be just mail to our domain. bouncing IIS does not fix it. But if I reboot the server, the mail all gets sent. Any ideas? thanks - dave david@at-at-at@windward.dot.dot.net Windward Reports -- http://www.WindwardReports.com
If you're using W2K, then the problem is that the SMTP server will hang and
push the CPU utilization to 100%. This is usually caused by at least one of emails going to an incorrect domain. The best way to resolve this is to upgrade to W2K3. -- Christopher A. Reed "The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient." [quoted text, click to view] "David Thielen" <david@windward.net> wrote in message news:iuj602ts5k4hsoe1u93kkisgqks449lfpr@4ax.com... > Hi; > > Every 3 or 4 days suddenly all mail gets stuck in the queue. It > appears to be just mail to our domain. > > bouncing IIS does not fix it. But if I reboot the server, the mail all > gets sent. > > Any ideas? > > thanks - dave > > david@at-at-at@windward.dot.dot.net > Windward Reports -- http://www.WindwardReports.com > me -- http://dave.thielen.com
Nope - Windows 2003 and all the latest service packs.
Anything else? thanks - dave On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:10:19 -0600, "Christopher Reed" [quoted text, click to view] <carttu@nospam.nospam> wrote: >If you're using W2K, then the problem is that the SMTP server will hang and >push the CPU utilization to 100%. This is usually caused by at least one of >emails going to an incorrect domain. The best way to resolve this is to >upgrade to W2K3. david@at-at-at@windward.dot.dot.net Windward Reports -- http://www.WindwardReports.com
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>Every 3 or 4 days suddenly all mail gets stuck in the queue. It >appears to be just mail to our domain. > >bouncing IIS does not fix it. But if I reboot the server, the mail all >gets sent. Do you have any on-access virus scanners running on the machine, or any other monitoring running at the filesystem level? If you try to save changes to a message file when it's stuck in the queue, does the system report that the file is locked, or does it commit the change? Have you ensured that your disk is defragged? Mail queues can become heavily fragmented over time, if the overall disk space allocation is small.
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:47:28 -0500, Sanford Whiteman
[quoted text, click to view] <sandy@cypressintegrated.com> wrote: >>Every 3 or 4 days suddenly all mail gets stuck in the queue. It >>appears to be just mail to our domain. >> >>bouncing IIS does not fix it. But if I reboot the server, the mail all >>gets sent. > >Do you have any on-access virus scanners running on the machine, or >any other monitoring running at the filesystem level? Nope - bare bones web server - just built. [quoted text, click to view] >If you try to save changes to a message file when it's stuck in the >queue, does the system report that the file is locked, or does it >commit the change? I did not try that. But when I stopped and restarted the SMTP server the time/date stamp on all the files changed to when I did that. [quoted text, click to view] >Have you ensured that your disk is defragged? Mail queues can become >heavily fragmented over time, if the overall disk space allocation is >small. System is not heavily fragmented. ??? - thanks - dave david@at-at-at@windward.dot.dot.net Windward Reports -- http://www.WindwardReports.com
David,
I have just got the same problem on a production system, did you find a fix? did you say that you have w2k3 sp1 installed? we don't It started off being once every 3 weeks approx. Now it is all the time - 10 seconds or so after the reboot, infact it may be that the messages are going piror to the reboot? As far as I can see in network monitor the error is no msg 250 reply to the outgoing BDAT sent from the IIS server. I have found one other thread on google for this, but no fix yet Any reply would be helpful Simon Papworth [quoted text, click to view] "David Thielen" wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:47:28 -0500, Sanford Whiteman > <sandy@cypressintegrated.com> wrote: > > >>Every 3 or 4 days suddenly all mail gets stuck in the queue. It > >>appears to be just mail to our domain. > >> > >>bouncing IIS does not fix it. But if I reboot the server, the mail all > >>gets sent. > > > >Do you have any on-access virus scanners running on the machine, or > >any other monitoring running at the filesystem level? > > Nope - bare bones web server - just built. > > > >If you try to save changes to a message file when it's stuck in the > >queue, does the system report that the file is locked, or does it > >commit the change? > > I did not try that. But when I stopped and restarted the SMTP server > the time/date stamp on all the files changed to when I did that. > > > >Have you ensured that your disk is defragged? Mail queues can become > >heavily fragmented over time, if the overall disk space allocation is > >small. > > System is not heavily fragmented. > > ??? - thanks - dave > > david@at-at-at@windward.dot.dot.net > Windward Reports -- http://www.WindwardReports.com > me -- http://dave.thielen.com
I have found the cause on my production system.
Symantec Antivirus, set up perform outbound port 25 email scanning - must have had an update last night. A Pity I can't get the lost costs back from Symantec, as this is a share transaction service, and on reboot it duplicated the outbound emails which were transaction requests to brokers - only minior swings in share pice but still £000s went today! [quoted text, click to view] "Simon Papworth" wrote:
> David, > > I have just got the same problem on a production system, did you find a fix? > did you say that you have w2k3 sp1 installed? we don't > > It started off being once every 3 weeks approx. Now it is all the time - 10 > seconds or so after the reboot, infact it may be that the messages are going > piror to the reboot? > > As far as I can see in network monitor the error is no msg 250 reply to the > outgoing BDAT sent from the IIS server. I have found one other thread on > google for this, but no fix yet > > Any reply would be helpful > > Simon Papworth > "David Thielen" wrote: > > > On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:47:28 -0500, Sanford Whiteman > > <sandy@cypressintegrated.com> wrote: > > > > >>Every 3 or 4 days suddenly all mail gets stuck in the queue. It > > >>appears to be just mail to our domain. > > >> > > >>bouncing IIS does not fix it. But if I reboot the server, the mail all > > >>gets sent. > > > > > >Do you have any on-access virus scanners running on the machine, or > > >any other monitoring running at the filesystem level? > > > > Nope - bare bones web server - just built. > > > > > > >If you try to save changes to a message file when it's stuck in the > > >queue, does the system report that the file is locked, or does it > > >commit the change? > > > > I did not try that. But when I stopped and restarted the SMTP server > > the time/date stamp on all the files changed to when I did that. > > > > > > >Have you ensured that your disk is defragged? Mail queues can become > > >heavily fragmented over time, if the overall disk space allocation is > > >small. > > > > System is not heavily fragmented. > > > > ??? - thanks - dave > > > > david@at-at-at@windward.dot.dot.net > > Windward Reports -- http://www.WindwardReports.com > > me -- http://dave.thielen.com
Fixed but no idea why - it's just working now.
sorry On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 03:41:20 -0800, Simon Papworth [quoted text, click to view] <SimonPapworth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >David, > >I have just got the same problem on a production system, did you find a fix? >did you say that you have w2k3 sp1 installed? we don't > >It started off being once every 3 weeks approx. Now it is all the time - 10 >seconds or so after the reboot, infact it may be that the messages are going >piror to the reboot? > >As far as I can see in network monitor the error is no msg 250 reply to the >outgoing BDAT sent from the IIS server. I have found one other thread on >google for this, but no fix yet > >Any reply would be helpful > >Simon Papworth >"David Thielen" wrote: > >> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:47:28 -0500, Sanford Whiteman >> <sandy@cypressintegrated.com> wrote: >> >> >>Every 3 or 4 days suddenly all mail gets stuck in the queue. It >> >>appears to be just mail to our domain. >> >> >> >>bouncing IIS does not fix it. But if I reboot the server, the mail all >> >>gets sent. >> > >> >Do you have any on-access virus scanners running on the machine, or >> >any other monitoring running at the filesystem level? >> >> Nope - bare bones web server - just built. >> >> >> >If you try to save changes to a message file when it's stuck in the >> >queue, does the system report that the file is locked, or does it >> >commit the change? >> >> I did not try that. But when I stopped and restarted the SMTP server >> the time/date stamp on all the files changed to when I did that. >> >> >> >Have you ensured that your disk is defragged? Mail queues can become >> >heavily fragmented over time, if the overall disk space allocation is >> >small. >> >> System is not heavily fragmented. >> >> ??? - thanks - dave >> >> david@at-at-at@windward.dot.dot.net >> Windward Reports -- http://www.WindwardReports.com >> me -- http://dave.thielen.com >> david@at-at-at@windward.dot.dot.net Windward Reports -- http://www.WindwardReports.com
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