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Service ? I found two free versions but both of them have discontinued development and they are very buggy. We are a very small company and cannot afford the sometimes ridicolous prices for something that should have built in from start, the solutions we have looked at would cost somewhere around $1000 since they usually charge per mailbox. I don't know why MS couldnt have put in a simple spam filter, the DNSBL and SURLBL databases are free to use for anyone. PL.
We are simply using the SMTP service and the built in POP3 service in Windows 2003 Server Standard. I guess $1000 is not that much but it just seems like it never ends, it's always another $1000 needed for some software that does something we feel should have been there from the start :-/ You can't even turn off the insane mailing of NDR:s in the SMTP service, it sends one out basically for every email sent to a non existing mailbox, which means thousands of emails all the time and then they usually bounce back again. To get rid of the NDR:s we used a VBScript that hooked into the server and checked for the mailbox but we ran into issues and had to remove it. PL. "Ken Schaefer" <kenREMOVE@THISadOpenStatic.com> skrev i meddelandet news:Ol4wZH5ZGHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > Well, Microsoft has a habit of getting sued when they start including > things for free in the OS. > If you are running Exchange 2003, then there is the IMF add-on which is > free. > > I suppose you need to look at what spam filtering gains your business. If > it's going to save you $1000 a year, in terms of increased productivity, > perhaps it's worth investing in something. > > What are you using for mailserver software? And what are you using for > your email clients? Maybe we can suggest some kind of free or low-cost add > on? > > Cheers > Ken > > > "PL" <pblse2@yahoo.se> wrote in message > news:uG2O5g3ZGHA.1352@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Does anyone know of a free working spam filter for the Windows 2003 SMTP >> Service ? I found two free versions but both of them have discontinued >> development and they are very buggy. >> >> We are a very small company and cannot afford the sometimes ridicolous >> prices for something that should have built in from start, the solutions >> we have looked at would cost somewhere around $1000 since they usually >> charge per mailbox. >> >> I don't know why MS couldnt have put in a simple spam filter, the DNSBL >> and SURLBL databases are free to use for anyone. >> >> PL. >> >> > >
Well, Microsoft has a habit of getting sued when they start including things
for free in the OS. If you are running Exchange 2003, then there is the IMF add-on which is free. I suppose you need to look at what spam filtering gains your business. If it's going to save you $1000 a year, in terms of increased productivity, perhaps it's worth investing in something. What are you using for mailserver software? And what are you using for your email clients? Maybe we can suggest some kind of free or low-cost add on? Cheers Ken [quoted text, click to view] "PL" <pblse2@yahoo.se> wrote in message news:uG2O5g3ZGHA.1352@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Does anyone know of a free working spam filter for the Windows 2003 SMTP > Service ? I found two free versions but both of them have discontinued > development and they are very buggy. > > We are a very small company and cannot afford the sometimes ridicolous > prices for something that should have built in from start, the solutions > we have looked at would cost somewhere around $1000 since they usually > charge per mailbox. > > I don't know why MS couldnt have put in a simple spam filter, the DNSBL > and SURLBL databases are free to use for anyone. > > PL. > >
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:34:56 +0200, "PL" <pblse2@yahoo.se> wrote: >We are simply using the SMTP service and the built in POP3 service in >Windows 2003 Server Standard. I guess $1000 is not that much but it just >seems like it never ends, it's always another $1000 needed for some software >that does something we feel should have been there from the start :-/ > >You can't even turn off the insane mailing of NDR:s in the SMTP service, it >sends one out basically for every email sent to a non existing mailbox, >which means thousands of emails all the time and then they usually bounce >back again. > >To get rid of the NDR:s we used a VBScript that hooked into the server and >checked for the mailbox but we ran into issues and had to remove it. Might want to look at using a third party mail server, or Exchange.
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[quoted text, click to view] > Does anyone know of a free working spam filter for the Windows 2003 SMTP I suggest ORFILTER: http://martijnjongen.com/Default.aspx?tabid=27> Service ? I found two free versions but both of them have discontinued > development and they are very buggy. > > We are a very small company and cannot afford the sometimes ridicolous > prices for something that should have built in from start, the solutions we > have looked at would cost somewhere around $1000 since they usually charge > per mailbox. > > I don't know why MS couldnt have put in a simple spam filter, the DNSBL and > SURLBL databases are free to use for anyone. > > PL. > > Regards Vittorio Pavesi ------------------------------------
Orfilter is extremely buggy, I wouldnt recommend it to anyonw. PL. "Vittorio Pavesi" <n@spam.it> skrev i meddelandet news:O66%23AffbGHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [quoted text, click to view] > PL ha scritto: >> Does anyone know of a free working spam filter for the Windows 2003 SMTP >> Service ? I found two free versions but both of them have discontinued >> development and they are very buggy. >> >> We are a very small company and cannot afford the sometimes ridicolous >> prices for something that should have built in from start, the solutions >> we have looked at would cost somewhere around $1000 since they usually >> charge per mailbox. >> >> I don't know why MS couldnt have put in a simple spam filter, the DNSBL >> and SURLBL databases are free to use for anyone. >> >> PL. >> >> > I suggest ORFILTER: http://martijnjongen.com/Default.aspx?tabid=27 > Regards > > Vittorio Pavesi > ------------------------------------ > http://www.vittorio.tk
We decided to go with MailEnable Pro www.mailenable.com Simply because it had a bunch of features for a fraction of the cost for exchange or other solutions. There is even a standard version which is free, finally a real alternative to the built in service for small companys ! PL. "Jeff Cochran" <jeff.nospam@zina.com> skrev i meddelandet news:444d9471.677279265@msnews.microsoft.com... [quoted text, click to view] > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:34:56 +0200, "PL" <pblse2@yahoo.se> wrote: > >>We are simply using the SMTP service and the built in POP3 service in >>Windows 2003 Server Standard. I guess $1000 is not that much but it just >>seems like it never ends, it's always another $1000 needed for some >>software >>that does something we feel should have been there from the start :-/ >> >>You can't even turn off the insane mailing of NDR:s in the SMTP service, >>it >>sends one out basically for every email sent to a non existing mailbox, >>which means thousands of emails all the time and then they usually bounce >>back again. >> >>To get rid of the NDR:s we used a VBScript that hooked into the server and >>checked for the mailbox but we ran into issues and had to remove it. > > Might want to look at using a third party mail server, or Exchange. > > Jeff
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On Mon, 15 May 2006 21:31:54 +0200, "pblse2" <pblse2@yahoo.se> wrote: > >We decided to go with MailEnable Pro www.mailenable.com > >Simply because it had a bunch of features for a fraction of the cost for >exchange or other solutions. > >There is even a standard version which is free, finally a real alternative >to the built in service for small companys ! You could have done more searching and found a ton of alternatives... Jeff [quoted text, click to view] >
>"Jeff Cochran" <jeff.nospam@zina.com> skrev i meddelandet >news:444d9471.677279265@msnews.microsoft.com... >> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:34:56 +0200, "PL" <pblse2@yahoo.se> wrote: >> >>>We are simply using the SMTP service and the built in POP3 service in >>>Windows 2003 Server Standard. I guess $1000 is not that much but it just >>>seems like it never ends, it's always another $1000 needed for some >>>software >>>that does something we feel should have been there from the start :-/ >>> >>>You can't even turn off the insane mailing of NDR:s in the SMTP service, >>>it >>>sends one out basically for every email sent to a non existing mailbox, >>>which means thousands of emails all the time and then they usually bounce >>>back again. >>> >>>To get rid of the NDR:s we used a VBScript that hooked into the server and >>>checked for the mailbox but we ran into issues and had to remove it. >> >> Might want to look at using a third party mail server, or Exchange. >> >> Jeff >
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