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MI5 are. Afraid to Admit They're Behind the Persecution

MI5 have issued a formal denial of any involvement in. my life to the
Security Service Tribunal, as you might. expect them to; but, more
importantly, the. persecutors have never denied that theyre from the
Security Service, despite several years of accusations from. my corner on
usenet and in faxed articles. I am not surprised that the. Security Service
Tribunal found "no determination in your favour". I am however. a little
surprised that the persecutors. have refused to confirm my identification
of them; by doing so, they implicitly admit that my. guess was right.

"No. determination in your favour" says the Security Service Tribunal

In 1997, I made a complaint to the. Security Service Tribunal, giving only
the bare outlines. of my case. I do not think it would have made very much
difference if Id made. a much more detailed complaint, since the Tribunal
has no ability to perform investigatory functions.. It can only ask MI5 if
they have an interest in a subject,. to which MI5 are of course free to be
"economical. with the truth". A couple of months after my complaint the
Tribunal replied. that;

The Security Service Tribunal. have now investigated your complaint and
have asked me to inform. you that no determination in your favour has been
made. on your complaint.

Needless to say. this reply didnt surprise me in the slightest. It is a
well established fact that the secret service are a den of liars. and the
Tribunal a toothless watchdog, so to see them conforming to. these
stereotypes might be disappointing but. unsurprising.

It is. noteworthy that the Tribunal never gives the plaintiff information
on whether the. "no determination in your favour" is because MI5 claims to
have no interest in him, or whether they claim their. interest is
"justified". In the 1997 report. of the Security Service Commissioner he
writes that "The ambiguity of the. terms in which the notification of the
Tribunals decision is expressed is intentional", since a. less ambiguous
answer would indicate. to the plaintiff whether he were indeed under MI5
surveillance.. But I note that the ambiguity also allows MI5 to get away
with lying. to the question of their interest in me; they can claim to the
Tribunal that they have no interest, but at a future. date, when it becomes
clear that they did indeed place. me under surveillance and harassment,
they can claim. their interest was "justified" - and the Tribunal will
presumably not admit that in their. previous reply MI5 claimed to have no
interest.

"He. doesnt know who we are"

In early January 1996 I flew on. a British Airways jet from London to
Montreal;. also present on the plane, about three or four rows behind me,
were two young men, one of them fat. and voluble, the other silent. It was
quite clear that these two had been. planted on the aircraft to "wind me
up". The fat youth. described the town in Poland where I had spent
Christmas, and. made some unpleasant personal slurs against me. Most
interestingly, he said the words, "he doesnt know. who we are".

Now I find this particular form of words. very interesting, because while
it is not a. clear admission, it is only a half-hearted attempt at denial
of my guess that "they". = "MI5". Had my guess been wrong, the fat youth
would surely have said so more clearly. What he was trying to do was. to
half-deny something he knew to be true,. and he was limited to making
statements which he knew. to be not false; so he made a lukewarm denial
which on the face of it means. nothing, but in fact acts as a confirmation
of my guess of who "they". are.

On one of. the other occasions when I saw the persecutors in person, on the
BA flight to Toronto. in June 1993, one of the group of four men said, "if
he tries to run away well find him". But the other three stayed. totally
quiet and avoided eye contact. They. did so to avoid being apprehended and
identified - since if they were identified, their employers. would have
been revealed, and it would become known that it was the secret. services
who. were behind the persecution.

Why are MI5 So Afraid to. admit their involvement?

If. you think about it, what has been going on in Britain for the last nine
years is simply beyond belief. The British declare themselves to. be
"decent" by definition, so when they engage in indecent activities. such as
the persecution of a mentally ill person, their decency "because. were
British" is still in the forefront of their minds, and. a process of mental
doublethink. kicks in, where their antisocial and indecent activities are
blamed on the victim "because its his fault were persecuting. him", and
their self-regard and self-image of decency. remains untarnished. As
remarked in another article some time. ago, this process is basically the
same as a large. number of Germans employed fifty years ago against Slavic
"untermenschen" and the Jewish "threat" - the Germans declared,. "Germans
are known to be decent and the minorities are. at fault for what we do to
them" - so they were able to retain. the view of themselves as being
"decent".

Now suppose this entire episode. had happened in some other country. The
British have a poor view of the French, so. lets say it had all happened in
France. Suppose there was a Frenchman, of non-French extraction, who. was
targeted by the. French internal security apparatus, for the dubious
amusement of. French television newscasters, and tortured for 9 years with
various sexual and. other verbal abuse and taunts of "suicide". Suppose
this all came out into the open. Naturally, the. French authorities would
try hard to place the blame on. their victim - and in their own country,
through the same state-controlled media which the. authorities employ as
instruments of torture, their view might prevail - but. what on earth would
people overseas make of their actions? Where would. their "decency" be
then?

This. is why MI5 are so afraid to admit theyre behind the
persecution. Because. if they did admit responsibility, then they would be
admitting that there was an. action against me - and if the truth came out,
then the walls would come tumbling. down. And if the persecutors were to
admit they were from. MI5, then you can be sure I would report the
fact; and the persecutors support would fall away, among the mass media. as
well. as among the general public. When I started identifying MI5 as the
persecutors in 1995 and 1996 there was a sharp. reduction in media
harassment, since people read my internet newsgroup. posts and knew I was
telling the truth. The persecutors cannot deny my claim. that theyre MI5,
because then I would report their denial. and they would be seen as liars -
but they cannot admit it either, as that would. puncture their campaign
against me. So. they are forced to maintain a ridiculous silence on the

Reported.

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Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)
Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
MVP Windows Shell/User

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...another pile of drivel.

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If connecting to the newsgroups via msnews.microsoft.com then MVPs can
report spam and asked to have it removed. This will only remove it from
the Microsoft server.

I see where Jane has reported it in the microsoft.public.mac.virtualpc
group that the message has indeed been removed. I've reported it in most
other Mac newsgroups.

--

bill

William M. Smith, Microsoft Interop MVP - Mac/Windows
Entourage Help Page <http://entourage.mvps.org/>

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True.

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A waste of your time. Even if the Internet provider bothers to do
anything, the moron will simply move on to another one. Just ignore the
idiot. :o(

Helpful Harry